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If ANDY thinks we’re going to be sitting here in late June all nodding our heads while sitting on our asses in solitude watching the economy burn to the ground he has another thing coming.

“SHHH. SHHH. ANDY IS SPEAKING.”

“BEERS WITH BESHEAR!”

STFU, losers. If this thing flattens way out the way the models suggest along with the general public having access to testing sooner than later then put down the Tik Tok, strap on your boots you lazy asses and get back to work. Apply common sense. If you don’t feel well and or are showing symptoms, then stay home.

Not sure why everyone is all of a sudden freaking out at Andy. Businesses are still closed in 46 of the 50 states and there has been no move yet to open any of them. Getting mad at our Governor when every other Governor has basically done the same thing seems to me to be odd.

Anth says "Tennessee has a plan to open and we don't". Respectfully that just isn't true. They haven't talked openly about their plan, but they do have one. Now whether it is the right one or Tennessee's is the right one remains to be seen. But to assume they are just sitting there doing chalk art is an odd assumption.

Within a couple of weeks, some of these states will re-open. There will be tremendous pressure on all the others to follow for obvious reasons. My guess is most will. I don't assume that Kentucky will be the one holdout that remains closed while everyone else in the country is open. Maybe I will be wrong.

As for the testing numbers, as has been said many times, Kentucky doesn't include private negative tests in their overall numbers because our state law doesn't require those testing to submit them (Tennessee does). That probably should be changed. But because of that when people say things like "Tennessee tested more last week than we have all time", that simply isn't true. The vast majority of testing in Kentucky is being done privately and we have no idea the number of negative tests because we don't require them to be submitted.
 
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Our mayor just said yesterday that ALL festivals/concerts/parades/sporting events/etc should be canceled for 2020. Let's face it -- as far as fun activities, we're gonna have to go ahead and punt until 2021.
 
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You all complain about Andy but the reals are over here wondering why the KY Supreme Court already called off the month of May.

Have there been furloughs in the AOC, or are all these court employees who have nothing to do essentially enjoying a taxpayer funded paid vacation? For 2.5 months?
 
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The different standards that Beshear and Trump are given are interesting. If Trump got through a press conference without personally insulting a reporter or floating the possibility that he's our king like Beshear successfully does every single day with relative ease the same people crushing Andy for hypotheticals would be comparing it to the emancipation proclamation.
 
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Our mayor just said yesterday that ALL festivals/concerts/parades/sporting events/etc should be canceled for 2020. Let's face it -- as far as fun activities, we're gonna have to go ahead and punt until 2021.
PokerFace games are fun! So are walls in the park!
 

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Not sure why everyone is all of a sudden freaking out at Andy. Businesses are still closed in 46 of the 50 states and there has been no move yet to open any of them. Getting mad at our Governor when every other Governor has basically done the same thing seems to me to be odd.

Anth says "Tennessee has a plan to open and we don't". Respectfully that just isn't true. They haven't talked openly about their plan, but they do have one. Now whether it is the right one or Tennessee's is the right one remains to be seen. But to assume they are just sitting there doing chalk art is an odd assumption.

Within a couple of weeks, some of these states will re-open. There will be tremendous pressure on all the others to follow for obvious reasons. My guess is most will. I don't assume that Kentucky will be the one holdout that remains closed while everyone else in the country is open. Maybe I will be wrong.

As for the testing numbers, as has been said many times, Kentucky doesn't include private negative tests in their overall numbers because our state law doesn't require those testing to submit them (Tennessee does). That probably should be changed. But because of that when people say things like "Tennessee tested more last week than we have all time", that simply isn't true. The vast majority of testing in Kentucky is being done privately and we have no idea the number of negative tests because we don't require them to be submitted.
Two things:

One, the license plate patrol was a bridge too far. Don’t give me the “a rule is not a rule...” quote, it’s impossible to implement and gave a certain group a fight they were looking for.

Two, at least give numbers context when you are using them for justification of shutting things down. That’s all. I’m not even disagreeing with 90% of what he has done...but it freaks out the public when you are simply showing a spike in the curve due to raw numbers.
 

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I mean, I’m assuming these projections are being overly cautious purposefully. Easier to do that than to overpromise and under deliver.

Plus, we have a lot of idiots out there who you need to treat like they’re children. You give some good news and they’re going to be out to church, having parties, etc.

jmo

But yeah, we need to open this sonofabitch up soon.
 

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Two things:

One, the license plate patrol was a bridge too far. Don’t give me the “a rule is not a rule...” quote, it’s impossible to implement and gave a certain group a fight they were looking for.

Two, at least give numbers context when you are using them for justification of shutting things down. That’s all. I’m not even disagreeing with 90% of what he has done...but it freaks out the public when you are simply showing a spike in the curve due to raw numbers.

I think the license plate thing was a mistake...probably the first real one I saw from him where I thought they handled it incorrectly. With that said, as we talked about on the show, I am not sure what you do when you give an order and someone openly defies it. Do you just let it go? But having police take license plates gives your opponents fuel to feel worked up, so it probably was the wrong call.

I just don't get the sudden vitriol from some towards him. The President literally can't get through one press conference without saying 25 absurd things, yelling at people and saying he has absolute power to do whatever he wants. When confronted with those facts, many of his supporters shrug it off and say, "oh well, he just says how he feels." Andy does one thing they don't like and they start calling him "Andy the Tyrant."

To me, these decisions are REALLY hard. And I give some leeway to any making them. Trump is a fool but I give some leeway to Pence and those folks because I really believe they too are trying. Lot of pressure on hard decisions with a lot of people ready to go insane if you get even one thing wrong.

Terrence Clarke situation is the tip of the new college basketball iceberg...
 
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My biggest issue is that the death rate for this for those under 40 is about the same as the flu. For 40-55 it’s slightly higher than the flu. It then seems to spike significantly after that.

The conversations that need to be happening are around how do we effectively quarantine off those over 55 and let the younger folks live their lives and support the overall country. But Andy and Co don’t even want to go there.
 
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What did you do for the entire month of February?!
LOTS! We did LOTS!


:joy:


I still watch a few absurd clips here and there, but I had to quite watching the daily press conferences. Just too much stupid and made me too angry.
 

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Anth says "Tennessee has a plan to open and we don't". Respectfully that just isn't true. They haven't talked openly about their plan, but they do have one. Now whether it is the right one or Tennessee's is the right one remains to be seen. But to assume they are just sitting there doing chalk art is an odd assumption.

1. It is true. https://www.wate.com/news/business-...reopening-proposal-from-coronavirus-shutdown/ Meanwhile Louisville's Mayor was trying to shut down drive thru church services this weekend.

2. I didn't say **** about chalk art. I was continuing to clown the dumbasses that championed our victory over Tennessee with that one ridiculous chart a few weeks ago. I've been doing that the entire time.

3. I don't care who's right, I want people to be safe and businesses to not close, it's obvious we have a lot of businesses shut down that could be operating safely right now.
 

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Not sure why everyone is all of a sudden freaking out at Andy. Businesses are still closed in 46 of the 50 states and there has been no move yet to open any of them. Getting mad at our Governor when every other Governor has basically done the same thing seems to me to be odd.

Anth says "Tennessee has a plan to open and we don't". Respectfully that just isn't true. They haven't talked openly about their plan, but they do have one. Now whether it is the right one or Tennessee's is the right one remains to be seen. But to assume they are just sitting there doing chalk art is an odd assumption.

Within a couple of weeks, some of these states will re-open. There will be tremendous pressure on all the others to follow for obvious reasons. My guess is most will. I don't assume that Kentucky will be the one holdout that remains closed while everyone else in the country is open. Maybe I will be wrong.

As for the testing numbers, as has been said many times, Kentucky doesn't include private negative tests in their overall numbers because our state law doesn't require those testing to submit them (Tennessee does). That probably should be changed. But because of that when people say things like "Tennessee tested more last week than we have all time", that simply isn't true. The vast majority of testing in Kentucky is being done privately and we have no idea the number of negative tests because we don't require them to be submitted.


I dont think it is a Kentucky Beshear thing, people are losing their minds in Ohio too. The “wine with DeWine” is getting old as well. There have been protests in front of the Ohio Statehouse all week of people wanting things opened back up - think there were 200 protesters yesterday. People are just starting to get stir crazy and lose their ****, and the fact that outside a few cities this hasn’t been catastrophic at all isn’t helping (I know that sounds odd but it’s true).
 

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It's not just our Governor BTW. Ohio had protesters at the capitol yesterday. People aren't just going to sit by and watch their lives get destroyed when they feel there is a better way. We're at month, that's about when we all expected people to start getting restless.


Also, every respectable person I know called Trump out for that stupid comment.
 
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Sorry UCL. I don’t want you to be furloughed. I was more referring to the ladies in the clerks’ offices who look at you like you have three eyeballs and then sigh deeply if you ask them to do anything which would require them to get up out of their chair.
In some places/offices/branches, things have ground to a halt. In others (like mine) very little has changed except where we have to work.
 

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He shut down the whole state when Lexington and Louisville started getting cases.

Idk if he has traveled around here much but 115 counties in the state could probably be running normal right now with a few extra precautions put in place.
 
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It’s probably because we’re adults and the whole marketing campaign around the shut down in Kentucky is twee and directed towards wine aunts who live on Facebook and children.

Andy hasn’t done a bad job, but I’m kind of more interested in getting things back up and running than Tik Tok videos and slogans. If he has a plan, great. I don’t doubt that he does and I don’t even doubt it will be a good one. But maybe lead with that right now
 

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Like everything else, there are significant chunks of society dug in on the “issue”. You’ve got people saying the death totals are fake and doctored up and you’ve got people that think the world should stop for a year. Nobody believes anyone outside their sphere, any ask of a reasonable accommodation is a death sentence or the Gestapo trampling on the Constitution.

Hopefully when this clears up we all push those people back to the fringes and let the adults speak.
 

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For those against Andy it boils down to “our rights are being stripped”, so it’s pick your poison whether it be church on Easter, license plates etc etc meanwhile abortion clinics are open so come on in!

My life hasn’t drastically changed at all, but this hit me yesterday when I met up with a buddy who owned a restaurant and had some side jobs which are all shut down. The guy didn’t make a dime in March, let all his employees go, and although he is ok financially you could see/hear the stress in his voice and wearing on him.

That’s rough, good people getting wiped out
 

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-wait, i thought whataboutism was bad.

-i don't think ANDY is doing a bad job, per se. The press conferences are fluff/silly...he doesn't give any real/pertinent/complete info.

-i dont mind a conservative approach. However, at some point a "reopening" plan has to be created and articulated to the public.

-reason: folks are seeing that the reaction was based on *incredibly* flawed models...and while most understand the conservative reaction as precaution, they need to see a plan to get life back on track.
 

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I think the license plate thing was a mistake...probably the first real one I saw from him where I thought they handled it incorrectly. With that said, as we talked about on the show, I am not sure what you do when you give an order and someone openly defies it. Do you just let it go? But having police take license plates gives your opponents fuel to feel worked up, so it probably was the wrong call.

I just don't get the sudden vitriol from some towards him. The President literally can't get through one press conference without saying 25 absurd things, yelling at people and saying he has absolute power to do whatever he wants. When confronted with those facts, many of his supporters shrug it off and say, "oh well, he just says how he feels." Andy does one thing they don't like and they start calling him "Andy the Tyrant."

To me, these decisions are REALLY hard. And I give some leeway to any making them. Trump is a fool but I give some leeway to Pence and those folks because I really believe they too are trying. Lot of pressure on hard decisions with a lot of people ready to go insane if you get even one thing wrong.

Terrence Clarke situation is the tip of the new college basketball iceberg...
I don't see vitriol, just frustration. Andy is the face, the good and bad of being a leader...you get to be inserted into half the commonwealth's FB profile pics but you also catch the heat of people losing money and being locked up in their homes.

And Trump, even his biggest supporters take what he says with a grain of salt, you know this.
 

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-reason: folks are seeing that the reaction was based on *incredibly* flawed models...and while most understand the conservative reaction as precaution, they need to see a plan to get life back on track.
Perception is reality. If Sweden keeps tracking the way they are people are going to start asking why we didn't do what they did (cancel mass gatherings, quarantine only the sick, reasonable social distancing, but most everything remains open). Right or wrong, it doesn't matter. Governor's are going to have to be prepared to answer that and have a good plan going forward.
 
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- I’d like for all politicians to take a pay cut during this. Seriously. Small businesses and hard working Americans are all taking major hits and yet our own tax dollars are being used to pay these pig’s salaries.

- I think overall ANDY has handled this very well until recently. The license plate at churches deal and as of yesterday he started floating around another 90 day self quarantine mandate. He also needs to get more into specifics using hard data instead of generalities.

- You can be critical of ANDY without being a Trump blowhard. They aren’t mutually exclusive.
 

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Matt Jones - One straight forward question I would like for you to answer. What two counties in Kentucky give you the most concern for reopening the state? If you don’t know the Covid numbers you can go to Andy’s reporting:
https://kygeonet.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/be6aa027e95e44ff81294fd442d2ff48

If you don’t want to take the time to look at the numbers, don’t come back at me with some vague political answer trying to rally support around Andy. Just say Facts are optional and we will move in to the next topic. If Andy wants to be re-elected he better open up the state sooner than later unless we see a drastic change in the numbers.
 
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For those against Andy it boils down to “our rights are being stripped”, so it’s pick your poison whether it be church on Easter, license plates etc etc meanwhile abortion clinics are open so come on in!

Are groups in the dozens or even hundreds actually congregating in abortion clinics? I didn't realize that.

Comparing people being denied meeting in large groups in church with individuals going to get a controversial medical procedure is a stupid Rush Limbaugh level tactic designed to get a rise out of people. They have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

"They took away Earl's moonshine still and let OJ get away with butcherin' those white people. it ain't right. We need to build a wall!"
 

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Are groups in the dozens or even hundreds actually congregating in abortion clinics? I didn't realize that.
No, but they do require PPE that is supposed to all be diverted to hospitals so they can treat COVID patients. Telling people they can't get surgery on a debilitating hip/knee/etc while allowing abortion clinics to stay open is bad optics, whatever your opinion of abortion is.
 

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The really cute -> you don't have to pay your rent/mortgage is going to be the real issue. BTW.
My buddy in SF already got forbearance on his mortgage last week and was trying to talk me into it as a “free money / might as well!” He and his wife are still working full time from home.

...He finally backed down when I told him how little it’s costing me to carry two mortgages during this and stopped to tell his wife, “We should move to Kentucky.”
 
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For those against Andy it boils down to “our rights are being stripped”, so it’s pick your poison whether it be church on Easter, license plates etc etc meanwhile abortion clinics are open so come on in! That’s rough, good people getting wiped out

My krazy great aunt makes this argument once a day on facebook. Has not been employed or most likely generally left the house in years.
 

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PuffyNips

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No, but they do require PPE that is supposed to all be diverted to hospitals so they can treat COVID patients. Telling people they can't get surgery on a debilitating hip/knee/etc while allowing abortion clinics to stay open is bad optics, whatever your opinion of abortion is.

Which has nothing at all to do with what people are comparing out there. Comparing churches and abortion clinics isn't something ol' Krazy made up on his own. It is a big talking point being pushed by somebody out there.

As to your point, I'm pretty sure that time plays a bigger factor in getting an abortion than a debilitating hip or knee.
 
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