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Son_Of_Saul

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Calipari at this point:

 

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Believe Cade and Greg Brown have a connection to the Kentucky through the guy guy who founded their AAU team the Texas Titans. this is also the same team that produced Julius Randle. As of now I'd say Cade is Kentucky's to lose. If we get Greg Brown i believe you will start to see the chips fall for Paolo Banchero as well. this would set up to be the greatest class in college basketball history.
And didn't Kuminga say that he wanted to play for a loaded team also (or something to that effect)?
 
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ryanbruner

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oh hell, horse farm in Lexington? Done deal. I’m gonna start tracking planes to follow Cunningham to lex now.
Not sure if hes from Lexington or not but he's the one who pushed Julius Randle to us last minute. So this could and should play out in our favor.
 

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And didn't Kuminga say that he wanted to play for a loaded team also (or something to that effect)?
Yes but if we get those guys we will not get Kuminga. Just my opinion. Kuminga says a lot of things and I'm not sure what to believe with him. e's also a kid that says he wants to be on a winning team with other talents but I believe he wants to control an offense and be the focal point. I wouldn't trade any of those dudes for Kuminga either. I'd rather have paolo and Cunningham.
 

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Not expecting Askew to commit and eventually reclass to go along with Cade?
My dream scenario for rounding out this class would be Cade, Askew, Brown, Banchero. In your opinion, what is the chances of ending our class with this squad?
Ha, that was tongue in cheek. Of course Askew will be coming, but he won't say exactly that tonight. He'll say I'm committing to Kentucky but will stay in the 2021 class, then decide if I want to move it up after my season is over.

We have a great shot at Banchero but I'm in a waiting pattern on him. He's visiting Duke tomorrow, then has more visits lined up....like Gonzaga in January. It could be that a CC commitment would energize him to put us in the lead, if we're not already. Going to be hard for him to reclass, will be hard on him. But he can do it if he wants.

I'm on my way to Ft Lauderdale for the weekend and won't have much net access. I will check in when I can. Keep the faith. Gonna happen.
 

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Slater being so confident he's going to OSU and Corey Evans still saying OSU are what's giving me pause.

I'm with you. It feels like the others are predicting and those guys are reporting.

It's not like they aren't "hearing" what the other analysts are at this point. So the difference of opinion probably comes down to standard of credibility. Slater and Evans may want something more concrete than is currently true.
 

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I don't know anything about the recruiting process, I'm just a UK fan but I don't believe Cunningham is going anywhere to play any position but PG. Where does he and Askew both fit in if Askew commits to UK tonight and reclassify's to 2020? Is Askew gonna come in and backup Cade when he starts anywhere else? Clarke or Boston probably plays SG and the other SF. If Askew commits to us tonight it makes me wonder what's gonna happen with Cunningham.
 
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I'm with you. It feels like the others are predicting and those guys are reporting.

It's not like they aren't "hearing" what the other analysts are at this point. So the difference of opinion probably comes down to standard of credibility. Slater and Evans may want something more concrete than is currently true.
I’m with you on Corey Evans. Slater seems to like to make public comments and picks to troll UK fans.

At the end of the day, if we end up with Askew but not Cade, that’s still a win. OSU isn't a threat to anyone next year.
 

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We’ll celebrate with some of Mama’s finest squirrel, Bill. I also have water from a glacier in Alaska on tap.

All are welcome!
Is Mama going to be topping that squirrel with some of her gravy..........throw in a couple of those biscuits in and I'm in...........[cheers]
 

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I don't know anything about the recruiting process, I'm just a UK fan but I don't believe Cunningham is going anywhere to play any position but PG. Where does he and Askew both fit in if Askew commits to UK tonight and reclassify's to 2020? Is Askew gonna come in and backup Cade when he starts anywhere else? Clarke or Boston probably plays SG and the other SF. If Askew commits to us tonight it makes me wonder what's gonna happen with Cunningham.

If it happens the way I think the UK coaches hope it will:

G - Cunningham - Askew
G - Boston** - Askew - Allen
G - Clarke - Fletcher - Allen
F - Brown* - Ware
F - Banchero - Grad transfer (or Jackson)

* I also think there's a good chance someone like Brooks returns here.
** Assuming Quickley/Juzang develop enough to leave after this year

Askew as 6th man. He still gets 20 to 30 minutes/game as the top option off the bench.

UK can also go four out with Cunningham and Askew playing together. Askew shot 41+% from three on the AU circuit and shot 46% from three during the EYBL portion. You can play him off the ball and not lose a beat. If he returns for a second season, he's ready to run the show.
 

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Slater being so confident he's going to OSU and Corey Evans still saying OSU are what's giving me pause.

I'd say give it some time. Also I don't really care what Slater has to say. As you can see him and Jody Demling were the last to jump on and change their CBs for Askew to Kentucky.

I'm with you. It feels like the others are predicting and those guys are reporting.

It's not like they aren't "hearing" what the other analysts are at this point. So the difference of opinion probably comes down to standard of credibility. Slater and Evans may want something more concrete than is currently true.

I wouldn’t look too much into that, yet.

David Sisk discussed Cade Cunningham with Corey (he mentioned it in the Sources Say podcast) and from what David said, Corey wants to wait it out before he makes any changes. Essentially, he said he doesn’t just change picks based on a single visit; it seems like Corey is just a guy who wants to be more patient and do his due diligence. He just wants to be correct and absolute.

Also, I think the family factor really makes people pause simply because of conventional wisdom. You just wouldn’t expect him to go against it. Hopefully, he does, through.
 

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I don't know anything about the recruiting process, I'm just a UK fan but I don't believe Cunningham is going anywhere to play any position but PG. Where does he and Askew both fit in if Askew commits to UK tonight and reclassify's to 2020? Is Askew gonna come in and backup Cade when he starts anywhere else? Clarke or Boston probably plays SG and the other SF. If Askew commits to us tonight it makes me wonder what's gonna happen with Cunningham.
Cal has done it several times,
Wall and Bledsoe
Harrison and Ulis
Ulis and Murray
Fox and Briscoe/monk
Green and SGA...
 

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I wouldn’t look too much into that, yet.

David Sisk discussed Cade Cunningham with Corey (he mentioned it in the Sources Say podcast) and from what David said, Corey wants to wait it out before he makes any changes. Essentially, he said he doesn’t just change picks based on a single visit; it seems like Corey is just a guy who wants to be more patient and do his due diligence. He just wants to be correct and absolute.

Also, I think the family factor really makes people pause simply because of conventional wisdom. You just wouldn’t expect him to go against it. Hopefully, he does, through.
Evan Daniels for sure doesn’t change picks just on a single visit. And he did. That is what has me somewhat confident in Cade to UK
 

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Here’s my thinking on IF Askew and Cunningham both commit to UK. Right now I think in Devin’s mind he will stay 2021, he’s said it repeatedly. However, I think his Dad is of the mind that he goes 2020 and gets to practice with a super class, before becoming the best PG in the nation as a sophomore. Not that he won’t play, but his main role will be as the understudy to Cunningham. His Dad seems to see the big picture and would be OK with Devin playing 15mpg on a Final 4 team. The thing with Askew right now is his lack of physical maturity, and let me tell you I don’t think it’s a bad thing. He looks like he’s 15, I think he ends up growing to 6’5 or 6’6 by the time the season starts next year. Getting a year of acclimating to the college game while practicing with alphas and hitting the weight room, will mean he will be ready to lead the team, break out and become a top 10 pick the next season.
 

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Is Mama going to be topping that squirrel with some of her gravy..........throw in a couple of those biscuits in and I'm in...........[cheers]

I’m not certain, friend. Bobby should be swingin’ by the field house sometime tomorrow before our walk-thru. I’ll send word with him on his return trip to Helen and see what we can do.

Give us a couple days and I’ll have confirmation; y’all lawnmower ain’t moving quite like it did back in the day when Vicki Vallencourt got a hold of it...
 
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If it happens the way I think the UK coaches hope it will:

G - Cunningham - Askew
G - Boston** - Askew - Allen
G - Clarke - Fletcher - Allen
F - Brown* - Ware
F - Banchero - Grad transfer (or Jackson)

* I also think there's a good chance someone like Brooks returns here.
** Assuming Quickley/Juzang develop enough to leave after this year

Askew as 6th man. He still gets 20 to 30 minutes/game as the top option off the bench.

UK can also go four out with Cunningham and Askew playing together. Askew shot 41+% from three on the AU circuit and shot 46% from three during the EYBL portion. You can play him off the ball and not lose a beat. If he returns for a second season, he's ready to run the show.
I hope we get all the freshman that you have listed, but I just can't believe that we basically have 1 player coming back from this years team (unless they win the title!). I think you have to factor in Brooks coming back as of now. Now unfortunately for Quickley he is gonna be in a tough spot, unless he is ok playing a backup role again he will prob leave.
 

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Evan Daniels for sure doesn’t change picks just on a single visit. And he did. That is what has me somewhat confident in Cade to UK

I agree, it’s certainly a good sign! However, it’s not concretely for certain (at least publicly); Evan is liable to flip (I.e. Jaden McDaniels) if something changes. I believe Corey is just a guy who will hold out until he’s absolutely certain. Again, the family factor just makes people hesitate. However, I hope for the best with UK!
 
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I agree, it’s certainly a good sign! However, it’s not concretely for certain (at least publicly); Evan is liable to flip (I.e. Jaden McDaniels) if something changes. I believe Corey is just a guy who will hold out until he’s absolutely certain. Again, the family factor just makes people hesitate. However, I hope for the best with UK!
Evan is usually a guy that holds out until he is absolutely certain as well. Everyone got played on the McDaniels (except Washington).
 

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I hope we get all the freshman that you have listed, but I just can't believe that we basically have 1 player coming back from this years team (unless they win the title!). I think you have to factor in Brooks coming back as of now. Now unfortunately for Quickley he is gonna be in a tough spot, unless he is ok playing a backup role again he will prob leave.

I tend to agree that we'll have 2-3 guys back.

Who knows who they will be. Could be Juzang, IQ, Whitney, Brooks, Allen, etc.
 
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If it happens the way I think the UK coaches hope it will:

G - Cunningham - Askew
G - Boston** - Askew - Allen
G - Clarke - Fletcher - Allen
F - Brown* - Ware
F - Banchero - Grad transfer (or Jackson)

* I also think there's a good chance someone like Brooks returns here.
** Assuming Quickley/Juzang develop enough to leave after this year

Askew as 6th man. He still gets 20 to 30 minutes/game as the top option off the bench.

UK can also go four out with Cunningham and Askew playing together. Askew shot 41+% from three on the AU circuit and shot 46% from three during the EYBL portion. You can play him off the ball and not lose a beat. If he returns for a second season, he's ready to run the show.

That's a tough tough team to defend. Especially if Cade, Clarke, and Boston can shoot 35+% from 3.

I don't think we all need to get caught up in the traditional positions with a team like this (which is why I like that you listed them as G :) Who dribbles the ball up the court will technically be the PG but with Clarke/Cade/Askew and to a lesser extent Boston the primary initiator may be the person with the best matchup advantage.

Don't forget about Fletcher - athletically he is elite and if he can use those tools to play solid D, he will get PT. O Wait, you didn't.. haha.. i see his name listed now.

I have a useless gut instinct that we may add Omoruyi too. He is more of a modern center because of his movement skills and Cal/KennyP could probably develop him into a solid draft pick in a few years. Isaiah Jackson or Omoruyi will be a target IMO because Cal loves to have at least 1 long rim protector at his disposal.
 
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That's a tough tough team to defend. Especially if Cade, Clarke, and Boston can shoot 35+% from 3.

I don't think we all need to get caught up in the traditional positions with a team like this (which is why I like that you listed them as G :) Who dribbles the ball up the court will technically be the PG but with Clarke/Cade/Askew and to a lesser extent Boston the primary initiator may be the person with the best matchup advantage.

Don't forget about Fletcher - athletically he is elite and if he can use those tools to play solid D, he will get PT. O Wait, you didn't.. haha.. i see his name listed now.

I have a useless gut instinct that we may add Omoruyi too. He is more of a modern center because of his movement skills and Cal/KennyP could probably develop him into a solid draft pick in a few years. Isaiah Jackson or Omoruyi will be a target IMO because Cal loves to have at least 1 long rim protector at his disposal.

True on all points.

If recruiting was likened to military action, we'd be crushing the right flank right now and potentially routing the opposition en masse.

Lots of momentum right now. If it comes together, this thing could become historic with a few strokes of the pen on those signed L.O.I..
 

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Evan is usually a guy that holds out until he is absolutely certain as well. Everyone got played on the McDaniels (except Washington).

Again, I agree with both of you. I was just saying I think the family factor creates some hesitation for some people (which, is why I mentioned Corey Evans). However, based on what Dave said and other information out there ... I’m in the camp that believes he’s ours—like most people, now.

And I don’t know if Jaden “played” us; it seemed like he was coming to UK and just backed out at the last minute. Again, I think the family factor just makes people pause; it seems like that would be the only thing at this point that would keep Cade from committing to UK.
 

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@davekersey, I posted earlier on the HOB how I felt CC’s recruitment felt like a dog and pony show, and I come over and read this, and am getting hungry for some crow! Thanks :cheers2:
 

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Honoring his word? I respect the decision, but I bet Washington, knowing they face an uphill battle with Kentucky, would rather he just save them the time and money.

Unless they really think they have a chance.
 
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Honoring his word? I respect the decision, but I bet Washington, knowing they face an uphill battle with Kentucky, would rather he just save them the time and money.

Unless they really think they have a chance.

They're going to try to sell him on playing next to a junior-version of Quade Green and soon-to-be sophomore version of Jaden McDaniels? :D
 

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I’m with you on Corey Evans. Slater seems to like to make public comments and picks to troll UK fans.

At the end of the day, if we end up with Askew but not Cade, that’s still a win. OSU isn't a threat to anyone next year.
Even with Cade OK St will be a five hundred team unless they load up on a lot of pansy's teams early in the year , you know teams like Indiana LOL
 

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Nothing wrong with Dave posting what he reads /hears on the net..Thanks for the recap of Evan Daniels on the Leach Report this morning..I missed it...
 
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Honoring his word? I respect the decision, but I bet Washington, knowing they face an uphill battle with Kentucky, would rather he just save them the time and money.

Unless they really think they have a chance.

Logically, that would make sense. No need to waste time, as you said.

But, what do they have to lose? It’s not often the #2 recruit in the country will visit a school outside of the traditional blue bloods. If Washington can get him on campus, you might as well shoot your shot—shooters shoot, baby! Even if it’s a long shot.
 
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Here’s my thinking on IF Askew and Cunningham both commit to UK. Right now I think in Devin’s mind he will stay 2021, he’s said it repeatedly. However, I think his Dad is of the mind that he goes 2020 and gets to practice with a super class, before becoming the best PG in the nation as a sophomore. Not that he won’t play, but his main role will be as the understudy to Cunningham. His Dad seems to see the big picture and would be OK with Devin playing 15mpg on a Final 4 team. The thing with Askew right now is his lack of physical maturity, and let me tell you I don’t think it’s a bad thing. He looks like he’s 15, I think he ends up growing to 6’5 or 6’6 by the time the season starts next year. Getting a year of acclimating to the college game while practicing with alphas and hitting the weight room, will mean he will be ready to lead the team, break out and become a top 10 pick the next season.

Really disagree with this. Askew is a top 10 player in his class and we’re one-and-done U. No parent of a top 10 talent is gonna say: “My son sure could go ahead and reclassify so he can hit the weight room and ride the pine for a year.” Lol, c’mon. Especially after last year and all the people who convinced themselves that Herro was a multi-year player when the glaring reality that the main/sole reason he came here was to be Devin Booker 2.0 and out of Lex ASAP.
 

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Back in ‘98 I led the greatest coup d'état this country had ever seen.

I survived Helen ‘Mama’ Boucher and convinced her to let Mr. Coach Klein ‘take the wheel’ (not her beloved Lord and Savior) to coach her baby boy [Bobby Boucher]—the original GOAT; And I’m not talking about the one behind Mama’s house...

Hell, I even thwarted that Red Beaulieu’s tomfoolery with the NC-two-A that he brought on my Bobby and our prestigious program. Needless to say, they still didn’t keep me from my Bourbon Bowl title.

If Cal can pull this off ... he may have completed the unthinkable! Imagine, the greatest recruiting coup since Mr. Coach Klein and the ‘waterboy’. What a time to be alive!
What in the hell did you just say. You lost me at Mama Boucher.
 
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