Zion issues....
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Dude, Zion is a beast. I understand chemistry, but with a guy like that you never assume he's going to make a team worse.
I , too, want to believe it. But ya know.....
Is this real or "The Harrisons and Randle hate each other" type stuff?
I'd say closer to Alex Legion's girlfriend and Gillispie rumors.
Cal clearly prefers multiple PG's or combo guards and an elite guy inside. Cal wouldn't hesitate to play Hagan's, Maxey, and Quickley together on the floor. They're all 6'4 can handle the ball, pass, defend, and score in different ways. He wouldn't do that with any other position. Like I said, I don't believe he would sign 3 SF's in any class primarily because it would hamper his ability to sign multiple guards and a couple of bigs. He likes bringing in a class that is balanced.
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Not sure where that rumor started, but I've seen a few videos of all the Duke recruits hanging out during these Allstar games, and they all seemed to get along pretty well in those videos.
You could be right, heck I really don't know what Cal would do, but I do know that he recruited all three of them to go to UK this year. Do you think Cal would have turned down any of them if they all wanted to come? I don't think the big three at Duke really play the same position. I think Zion wants to play outside but he's always been a four and will remain one at Duke. Shoot, K played Winslow at the four and he's smaller than Zion. Reddish is a three like Tatum and Barrett will be a two in the NBA. While they are about the same size I see them with different skill sets kind of like the different skill sets you pointed out about the guards Cal is recruiting. One things for sure we are all going to find out come next season. All the pressure is on K next year to win with the "greatest class of all time". Cough cough.
Shocked that Jones would throw something like that out there and not tell until the next day, say in the time frame of his radio show.....:scream:
My friends Duke is going to be good- but UK is going to be better. And like the last two years, K will struggle coaching a very young team. In fact, it will be his youngest ever. Still, they will rack up plenty of wins, but they won’t go anywhere in March. I said before the last two seasons that Duke wouldn’t make the final four in spite of all the talent they had. They won’t make the final four next year either. They won’t even make it out of the first weekend of the NCAA tournament.
It mean’s now that they’re at Duke, they go both way’s now.
I believe EJ played with Barrett at Montverde Academy and was in no hurry to do it again.
I would welcome zion if he wants to come to UK. Best thing for him though is to go play in China for a year make a couple mil
I am not discounting Zion’s ability. He is simply the one in the discussion.
One of the 3 will have to defer more often than not imo.
And someone other than the 5 man is going to have to be willing to do the dirty work and garbage game.
I just don’t see 3 alphas putting it all together.
Even in the NBA the big 3s are never 3 alphas. 2 for sure.
Maybe GS Warriors with Durant, but one is a PG and not 90% in score mode.
Miami with Lebron saw Bosh and Ray defer a bit to Wade and James.
Jordan and Scotty.
The 80’s Lakers? Again Magic was a PG...
80’s Celtics? However all 5 were willing and able passers.
I simply do not see Zion on the block, which most likely pushes Reddish to the corner...
It will be interesting to see how K works this on offense.
Defensively this Duke squad may be extremely vulnerable.
I think if any of them are overrated and don't contribute much, it will be Reddish. I don't agree with some in the thread. He might be the nicer of the bunch but he's the weakest link of the three imo.
I get what you're saying and I hope you're right.
I think Cal coaching that group would be much better for everyone involved. And I mean that, the players are included. Zion made a really poor decision but I guess they think NIKE will reward them in some way so, maybe not. That class was not about basketball. That's why I now prefer the OAD to end.
Can't wait to see how k plays Zion like lebron. If he handles the ball like he did when schooled at the mcds game he better forget about playing like lebron it won't happen anyway. He will make Zion camp out under the basket unless in transition because bolden won't exactly set the world on fire down low and will needn't all the help he can get. Barrett and reddish will be parked at the 3 pt line hoping a rebound comes back to them so they can jack up more shots. You can tell Barrett will be Tatum but much better when he gets the ball it won't be passed to anyone else. The only way someone gets a chance is on a missed shot
Barrett doesn't seem too hot from 3 either though. He seems like a mid range j and drive guy. I can see him extending to decent from the outside but parking and chucking doesn't seem like his game.
I think they are going to have to be unselfish and be willing and able passers to be really effective on offense. K is going to struggle to put in the kind of offense they are going to need quickly.
Bad luck to them.
I will agree on Reddish. He just seems to play with a very low motor. He is very skilled, though.
That would be the best thing that could happen for Duke, BUT, i want him to stay at Duke. Think there are problems now, just wait till the season starts.
Yeah he essentially stated that being around the Duke guys at the McDonald's game sealed the deal for Kentucky. Just didn't vibe well with them, at all. Much better rapport with the Kentucky kids.
Trying their best to make a McDonald's sign but they can't spell "M"
He only goes 6 men deep and maybe the 7th guys gets 10 minutes or so. This will not be a typical Duke team who has shooters. They will be playing small ball without shooters and that isn't a good situation in todays game.
Those on here trying to downplay Zion and what he will do his 1 year in College will be in for a rough surprise IMO. The kid will be a stud next year for Duke.
I don’t see any reason to call Williamson a bum. That just seems like sour grapes. But as I have said here several times before, I question his work ethic. He carries way too much weight, which explains all the nagging leg injuries and calls into question his conditioning and nutrition habits. I think he is at a crossroad. He must get serious about his conditioning, our else he will underachieve. IMO.
They're giving their assessment of a movie they watched together.
Oh unc players then. It makes sense now since a unc player couldn't read a duke uniform name....sure, now I get it. [laughing]
I like your sayings at the bottom. Here's a couple more.
"Show me a man that's never wrong, and I'll show you a man that's wrong." Me
"Ask a question, be a fool for a moment, don't ask a question, be a fool for life." Mom
When Zion was making his decision everyone on this board was praying he'd come to UK, including me, primarily for the highlights. I never imagined he'd be the focal point of the team but Cal would have told them, "If you don't get the ball to him out on the break, you're coming out", just like he did MKG.
It's not a reach though to think Zion might struggle at the college level. He didn't play against really tough competition in high school, he doesn't have a consistent or reliable outside game, he's not in the best of shape, and he's not the biggest dude on the floor anymore. We'll see. I really liked Zion and his personality but watching him during the All-Star events he has definitely let all of this crap go to his head.
The kid is obviously extremely talented. Some of these assessments are not only dumb but make people look petty after all the hype this board gave him the past year.
I still believe they are going to be very spotty with a less than stellar point guard and Bolden at center.
Who is their glue guy? Their Amile Jefferson?
The last 3 freshmen studs included a point guard, who although ball dominant is a distributor, a center on the block with only one wing (Winslow)...
3 wings...?
I like Popeye's chicken versus KFC...only the breasts. (Won't eat KFC anyway and not much Popeye's but your post made me think of chicken.) I'm not even hungry either...
Now before you go all ignant BP, (And your counter-shadow Morshadowsky puts in his cent and a half.) I stay in a lane of enjoyment and triviality to ensure my basketball ignorance stays within me. I interject where I can and try having a little fun as a UK FANatic...
@morgousky
Hey, I made a lot more sense than some who spout their "basketball" knowledge....
I definitely think they will struggle at times as I don't think their talent mixes well with the makeup of their team. There's no denying they have some crazy talent coming in. I hope they flop hard and it sucks what little life K has left lol.
I'm for one more super-trip by a returning Grayson that waylays' K one last time...
If they don't do well the the phrase used by Cal a few years ago at halftime "Duke flopping all over the place" could take on a whole new meaning.
From what I have seen of Reddish and hearing about the losses he took in high school, he doesn't seem like an alpha to me. Now Barrett clearly is and I assume Zion is as well.