You just can't make this stuff up

atlkvb

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Now the media is "demanding" a transcript of Trump's 'secret meeting' with the Russians divulging the top secret information he allegedly passed along to them.

But they claim to have an "annonymous source" who allegedly already has EXACTLY what Trump supposedly said to them!

So why don't they just quote that source, reveal his information, challenge Trump to prove otherwise and put a huge chrerry on top of their "scoop"?

Why won't they?

Because the whole story is "fake news".
 

WVPATX

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Now the media is "demanding" a transcript of Trump's 'secret meeting' with the Russians divulging the top secret information he allegedly passed along to them.

But they claim to have an "annonymous source" who allegedly already has EXACTLY what Trump supposedly said to them!

So why don't they just quote that source, reveal his information, challenge Trump to prove otherwise and put a huge chrerry on top of their "scoop"?

Why won't they?

Because the whole story is "fake news".

McMaster at a press briefing just stated that what was shared with the Russians was "wholly appropriate." McMaster is one of the. most trusted voices in Washington. Fake news.
 

Keyser76

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Keep telling yourselves it's fake news, and you left out the part that republicans and democrats alike are the ones asking for the transcripts, assuming he really does tape himself. Amazingly all our allied countries news orgs all over the world fell for this fake news just like us liberals.
 

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Keep telling yourselves it's fake news, and you left out the part that republicans and democrats alike are the ones asking for the transcripts, assuming he really does tape himself. Amazingly all our allied countries news orgs all over the world fell for this fake news just like us liberals.

It is fake news, racist boy.
 

atlkvb

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McMaster at a press briefing just stated that what was shared with the Russians was "wholly appropriate." McMaster is one of the. most trusted voices in Washington. Fake news.

The Washington Post has already been caught in two lies just this week. They were wrong stating Rosenstein offered to resign over the Comey firing. And their quoting McMaster that they passed along about him resigning was also a lie.

The whole idea is to overwhelm Trump with so many denials of allegations, that it ends up looking like he's lying instead of them.

Who can truly be believed if they are constantly denying charges?

This is the strategy.

But it may backfire on them, because people are not only tuning them out...they are getting fed up with up their nonsense.
 

atlkvb

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Keep telling yourselves it's fake news, and you left out the part that republicans and democrats alike are the ones asking for the transcripts, assuming he really does tape himself. Amazingly all our allied countries news orgs all over the world fell for this fake news just like us liberals.

But Keyser76, the story is based on a "source" who supposedly already has told them what they want Trump to explain?

So why not call that source out, publish his information and charges, and present them to Trump to refute?

If the story is true (Trump revealed classified sources and methods) their source's information would confirm that (or already has) and prove Trump to be a liar correct?

If they don't reveal their information, Trump continues to call them liars.

So, why don't they prove him to be what he's calling them? It's their story right Keyser76, so isn't the burden of proof on the accuser here rather than the accused?

Trump's already denied the charge, now it's up to them to prove it correct?
 

WVPATX

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But Keyser76, the story is based on a "source" who supposedly already has told them what they want Trump to explain?

So why not call that source out, publish his information and charges, and present them to Trump to refute?

If the story is true (Trump revealed classified sources and methods) their source's information would confirm that (or already has) and prove Trump to be a liar correct?

If they don't reveal their information, Trump continues to call them liars.

So, why don't they prove him to be what he's calling them? It's their story right Keyser76, so isn't the burden of proof on the accuser here rather than the accused?

Trunmp's already denied the charge, now it's up to them to prove it correct?

Not only Trump but both McMaster and Tillerson. The onus is on the Wash Post to prove their story. Right now, all we have are unnamed sources, none of which were in the meeting.

They blew the Rosenstein story. Now they are blowing this one. Fake news.
 

atlkvb

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Not only Trump but both McMaster and Tillerson. The onus is on the Wash Post to prove their story. Right now, all we have are unnamed sources, none of which were in the meeting.

They blew the Rosenstein story. Now they are blowing this one. Fake news.

It's easy to clear it up, and I don't know why Keyser76 or the rest of the Left aren't demanding the Washington Post smoke Trump out?

They supposedly have the goods on him, why do they need a "transcript" of what they allegedly already have as the damaged goods on the Trumpster?

Because it is just as you said "fake news".
 

WVUCOOPER

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Now the media is "demanding" a transcript of Trump's 'secret meeting' with the Russians divulging the top secret information he allegedly passed along to them.

But they claim to have an "annonymous source" who allegedly already has EXACTLY what Trump supposedly said to them!

So why don't they just quote that source, reveal his information, challenge Trump to prove otherwise and put a huge chrerry on top of their "scoop"?

Why won't they?

Because the whole story is "fake news".
Was Israel the "source"? Hmmmmm.
 

PriddyBoy

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Keep telling yourselves it's fake news, and you left out the part that republicans and democrats alike are the ones asking for the transcripts, assuming he really does tape himself. Amazingly all our allied countries news orgs all over the world fell for this fake news just like us liberals.
Republicans & Democrats that are status quo. At least the crooks just pretend to be R or D. I hope those pendejos get ousted or worse, Señor Keyser. Adios to the bunch of them.
 

Mntneer

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There's no doubt that are people in the administration, probably holder overs, staffers, etc. that want to hurt the credibility of Trump, and there's no doubt they will start "leaking" ******** (whether true or not) to just fan the flames stir the left up.
 

atlkvb

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Was Israel the "source"? Hmmmmm.

Who knows? I'll bet you one thing. The Washington Post won't tell us who it is if there is such a source.

Maybe that's why they won't tell us...it doesn't exist.
 

WVUCOOPER

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Who knows? I'll bet you one thing. The Washington Post won't tell us who it is if there is such a source.

Maybe that's why they won't tell us...it doesn't exist.
I'm blown away that you think journalists are going to reveal their source(s)? Right or left, conservative or nazi liberal. They aren't going to reveal their sources. All you can do is keep screaming FAKE NEWS. Maybe you're right or maybe you're wrong....but no journalist is going to reveal their source. That's silly.
 

WVPATX

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I'm blown away that you think journalists are going to reveal their source(s)? Right or left, conservative or nazi liberal. They aren't going to reveal their sources. All you can do is keep screaming FAKE NEWS. Maybe you're right or maybe you're wrong....but no journalist is going to reveal their source. That's silly.

We have anonymous sources vs. General McMaster on the record statement that what Trump told the Russians was "wholly appropriate." McMaster was in the meeting, the Wash Post sources were not. Who do you trust?
 

TarHeelEer

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We have anonymous sources vs. General McMaster on the record statement that what Trump told the Russians was "wholly appropriate." McMaster was in the meeting, the Wash Post sources were not. Who do you trust?

I haven't accepted anonymous source stories for years, from left or right. Anonymous = fake news.
 

WVPATX

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I haven't accepted anonymous source stories for years, from left or right. Anonymous = fake news.

The amazing thing is that McMaster was in the room. The anonymous sources were not. McMaster is highly, highly respected. They are anonymous for a reason, they would be in jail if their ID's disclosed. I agree with you. No trust for anonymous sources especially when stacked up against someone like McMaster.
 

atlkvb

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I'm blown away that you think journalists are going to reveal their source(s)? Right or left, conservative or nazi liberal. They aren't going to reveal their sources. All you can do is keep screaming FAKE NEWS. Maybe you're right or maybe you're wrong....but no journalist is going to reveal their source. That's silly.

They really don't have to in this case Coop. However for them to ask for a transcript of that meeting, when their source allegedly already has the goods to bring Trump down is what's really silly.

What do they need a transcript of that meeting for if this source already has told them what they want to know about whatever it is Trump said revealing our classified info?

In this case, I'd name my source(s) since Trump is accusing them of making this up. I'd smoke him out...tell him "OK...so and so says X now what do you say counter to that?"

Moreover, they should at least corroborate their source since the charge is so explosive.

When I was taught Journalism at WVU, we were told to confirm all unnamed sources with at least two independently verifiable alternative sources. Three is better, but at least get two more to cover your ***.

In this case they have three denials (Trump, McMaster, and Tillerson) but no backup for their original allegation. Yet they are clinging to the allegation, and demanding a "transcript" of the meeting they are alleging the damaging information they are asking for came from (through their own single source)

It's just bat sh*t crazy Coop! Not the way Professors Cremer, Kearns, Ours, and Stewart taught this little cub reporter to do my job back in the day at good 'ol WVU.
 
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atlkvb

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Is McMaster lying or are the anonymous sources lying? McMaster at his press conference this morning described what Trump told the Russians as "wholly appropriate."

Why don't they believe him, especially after they quoted him as saying something he told them to their faces he didn't say?
 

WVUCOOPER

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They really don't have to in this case Coop. However for them to ask for a transcript of that meeting, when their source allegedly already has the goods to bring Trump down is what's really silly.

What do they need a transcript of that meeting for if this source already has told them what they want to know about whatever it is Trump said revealing our classified info?

In this case, I'd name my source(s) since Trump is accusing them of making this up. I'd smoke him out...tell him "OK...so and so says X now what do you say counter to that?"

Moreover, they should at least corroborate thier source since the charge is so explosive.

When I was taught Journalism at WVU, we were told to confirm all unnamed sources with at least two independently verifiable alternative sources. Three is better, but at least get two more to cover your ***.

In this case they have three denials (Trump, McMaster, and Tillerson) but no backup for their original allegation. Yet they are clinging to the allegation, and demanding a "transcript" of the meeting they are alleging the damaging information they are asking for came from (through their own single source)

It's just bat sh*t crazy Coop! Not the way Professors Cremer, Kearns, Ours, and Stewart taught this little cub reporter to do my job back in the day at good 'ol WVU.

Erick Erickson, a conservative from down your way, knows one of the sources:

I tend to take these stories about the President with a grain of salt. We have seen key details of a number of salacious stories retracted within 48 hours. The media hates the President so much that they’ll run a negative story about him without very much provocation. Anti-Trump sources embedded within the administration in the career civil service, etc. will leak to the press and confirmation bias sets in.

What sets this story apart for me, at least, is that I know one of the sources. And the source is solidly supportive of President Trump, or at least has been and was during Campaign 2016. But the President will not take any internal criticism, no matter how politely it is given. He does not want advice, cannot be corrected, and is too insecure to see any constructive feedback as anything other than an attack.

So some of the sources are left with no other option but to go to the media, leak the story, and hope that the intense blowback gives the President a swift kick in the butt. Perhaps then he will recognize he screwed up. The President cares vastly more about what the press says than what his advisers say. That is a real problem and one his advisers are having to recognize and use, even if it causes messy stories to get outside the White House perimeter.

I am told that what the President did is actually far worse than what is being reported. The President does not seem to realize or appreciate that his bragging can undermine relationships with our allies and with human intelligence sources. He also does not seem to appreciate that his loose lips can get valuable assets in the field killed.

You can call these sources disloyal, traitors, or whatever you want. But please ask yourself a question — if the President, through inexperience and ignorance, is jeopardizing our national security and will not take advice or corrective action, what other means are available to get the President to listen and recognize the error of his ways?

This is a real problem and I treat this story very seriously because I know just how credible, competent, and serious — as well as seriously pro-Trump, at least one of the sources is.
 

Keyser76

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It's easy to clear it up, and I don't know why Keyser76 or the rest of the Left aren't demanding the Washington Post smoke Trump out?

They supposedly have the goods on him, why do they need a "transcript" of what they allegedly already have as the damaged goods on the Trumpster?

Because it is just as you said "fake news".
It is fake news, racist boy.
lol, what are you? 12?
 

WVUCOOPER

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Why don't they believe him, especially after they quoted him as saying something he told them to their faces he didn't say?
Did he really say that or did he merely dance around the topic in a much more elegant way than any of Trump's comms team
 

WVPATX

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Erick Erickson, a conservative from down your way, knows one of the sources:

I tend to take these stories about the President with a grain of salt. We have seen key details of a number of salacious stories retracted within 48 hours. The media hates the President so much that they’ll run a negative story about him without very much provocation. Anti-Trump sources embedded within the administration in the career civil service, etc. will leak to the press and confirmation bias sets in.

What sets this story apart for me, at least, is that I know one of the sources. And the source is solidly supportive of President Trump, or at least has been and was during Campaign 2016. But the President will not take any internal criticism, no matter how politely it is given. He does not want advice, cannot be corrected, and is too insecure to see any constructive feedback as anything other than an attack.

So some of the sources are left with no other option but to go to the media, leak the story, and hope that the intense blowback gives the President a swift kick in the butt. Perhaps then he will recognize he screwed up. The President cares vastly more about what the press says than what his advisers say. That is a real problem and one his advisers are having to recognize and use, even if it causes messy stories to get outside the White House perimeter.

I am told that what the President did is actually far worse than what is being reported. The President does not seem to realize or appreciate that his bragging can undermine relationships with our allies and with human intelligence sources. He also does not seem to appreciate that his loose lips can get valuable assets in the field killed.

You can call these sources disloyal, traitors, or whatever you want. But please ask yourself a question — if the President, through inexperience and ignorance, is jeopardizing our national security and will not take advice or corrective action, what other means are available to get the President to listen and recognize the error of his ways?

This is a real problem and I treat this story very seriously because I know just how credible, competent, and serious — as well as seriously pro-Trump, at least one of the sources is.

He is a VERY, VERY NEVERTRUMPer. Come on.

Answer my question. Who do you trust, McMaster or anonymous sources? McMaster was actually in the room.
 

WVPATX

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Did he really say that or did he merely dance around the topic in a much more elegant way than any of Trump's comms team

If you are talking about McMaster, his press conference is available for review. He said "Wholly Appropriate."
 

atlkvb

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Did he really say that or did he merely dance around the topic in a much more elegant way than any of Trump's comms team

My understanding is they quoted him as saying he was about to resign, or was leaving over all of the leaks and this story in particular. When he was asked that directly during a news conference today (to confirm or deny it) he flat out told them he never said that, and the story was totally false. He said what Trump talked about with the Russians was "wholly appropriate"

So now they don't believe him?
 

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I'm blown away that you think journalists are going to reveal their source(s)? Right or left, conservative or nazi liberal. They aren't going to reveal their sources. All you can do is keep screaming FAKE NEWS. Maybe you're right or maybe you're wrong....but no journalist is going to reveal their source. That's silly.
I've given up bringing this point up. It always comes up regardless.
 

WVUCOOPER

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My understanding is they quoted him as saying he was about to resign, or was leaving over all of the leaks and this story in particular. When he was asked that directly during a news conference today (to confirm or deny it) he flat out told them he never said that, and the story was totally false. He said what Trump talked about with the Russians was "wholly appropriate"

So now they don't believe him?
Wasn't that the Deputy AG?
 

atlkvb

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When did they run a story that McMaster threatened to resign? I never saw that one. And I must have missed that question today as well.

Watch his news conference, it explains what he denied vs what they reported he said.
 

atlkvb

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I have. I never heard anything about reports he was quitting. I'll post the transcript once they are released.

OK. As I said. My understanding was he was reported to be out the door, and that he was upset over the leaks and Trump's alleged divulging of our classified material. He denied both allegations.
 

WVUCOOPER

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OK. As I said. My understanding was he was reported to be out the door, and that he was upset over the leaks and Trump's alleged divulging of our classified material. He denied both allegations.
I'll post it later and you can point it out to me.
 

WVPATX

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I'll post it later and you can point it out to me.

I don't think McMaster threatened to resign. He simply completely disputed the Washington Post story. He said that what Trump told the Russians was wholly appropriate.

Washington Post reported that Rosenstein threatened to resign. Rosenstein on two occasions now has completely denied that story.

Washington Post also reported that the FBI requested additional funds for the Russian. Acting AG said it was mot true. All fake news.
 

atlkvb

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I don't think McMaster threatened to resign. He simply completely disputed the Washington Post story. He said that what Trump told the Russians was wholly appropriate.

Washington Post reported that Rosenstein threatened to resign. Rosenstein on two occasions now has completely denied that story.

Washington Post also reported that the FBI requested additional funds for the Russian. Acting AG said it was mot true. All fake news.

Your version may be why Coop is confused over what I've posted to him. I've got my non-denial denials wrong, but essentially McMaster shot down the Washington Post allegations about him and the allegations in their leaked story and that's what I was trying to explain to @WVUCOOPER.
 

WVUCOOPER

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Your version may be why Coop is confused over what I've posted to him. I've got my non-denial denials wrong, but essentially McMaster shot down the Washington Post allegations about him and the allegations in their leaked story and that's what I was trying to explain to @WVUCOOPER.
I'm confused because you are, as usual, incoherent. I thoroughly respect McMaster and see this as the General trying to tamp down a very public blunder.