Yet another Schiano article

knightfan7

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Big trek fan - original series anyway. Thought about going to see Shat but I’m not really into the whole celebrity thing. Don’t have much interest in meeting William Shatner, Captain Kirk on the other hand I’d love to have a beer with.

If you're having drinks with James T Kirk, wouldn't it more likely be Saurian Brandy?
 
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Oh yeah Rodger Sherman, a Northwestern journalism major, wrote the article. It’s not the first article he’s written about Rutgers football and I’m sure it will not be the last. He’s been called an unaccomplished hack by other professionals. Looks like a weasel.
 
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Oh yeah Rodger Sherman, a Northwestern journalism major, wrote the article. It’s not the first article he’s written about Rutgers football and I’m sure it will not be the last. He’s been called an unaccomplished hack by other professionals. Looks like a weasel.


Rodger Sherman
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LotusAggressor_rivals

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As I recall, the losses to Purdue and Iowa were not exactly shootouts. If Urban Meyer gets another job , are we going to see this same kind of hatchet job about his competence coaching an offense from this author?
 
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mildone_rivals

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Kinda what happens in recruiting.

Really dont see a w-l record as any sort of impediment. The quick explanation of the last years record and the last recruiting class quickly eradicates that.
Will you accept that longtime RU fans may not be the best people to accurately gauge the mindset of a player and his family unless that player/family are also long-suffering RU fans grateful to Schiano as the only coach to have dragged RU from football oblivion?

For example, you probably discount Tampa Bay and Tennessee as being relevant whereas a family from Texas or Ohio or Arkansas may, fairly or unfairly, feel very differently about it.
 
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Anti-Schiano crowd eating this up lol

The Author CLEARLY dislikes Rutgers and has a long track record of it. If we're so hopeless and irrelevant and unworthy of anyone's attention then why cant he stop running his mouth about us?
 
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mildone_rivals

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Anti-Schiano crowd eating this up lol

The Author CLEARLY dislikes Rutgers and has a long track record if it. If we're so hopeless and irrelevant and unworthy of anyone's attention then why cant he stop running his mouth about us?
Do you think Hobbs should only consider the opinion of people who love RU and Schiano? Because whomever we hire will have to recruit among people who have zero love for RU or Schiano.

I think Hobbs should consider a broadly diverse set of opinions.
 
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Agree longtime RU fans are not best to gauge.

I think the long term fans are however in many ways more jaded than any recruit. I think recruits would see the vision and care little to nothing re the 2000-2004 record that some like you dwell on.

The narrative that GS guarantees 6 -7 wins and no more (as if that was bad) I think is an absurd one. He may never get there-or he may get us to an OSU win. It's unknown.

But his w-l record is a huge red herring that only those with an ax to grind cite. Kids will see the Louisville win, the last recruiting class and whatever vision is imparted.

Past is no guarantee of future results--good or bad. Don't think there's any hindrance re record whatsoever.
 

MADHAT1

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The media turned favorable towards Schiano after Tenn dumped him before officially hiring him.
I expect to see more favorable press towards RU hiring Greg than ones bringing up his PSU connection as a reason to not have brought him on.

Of course there will be coverage of the accusation, but I feel the media will defend more than attack
Everyone in the beginning expected Penn St's recruiting ( after sanctions ) to be terrible, but though it fell off a lot, it did far better than expected.
RU under Schiano compared to PSU under BOB
is apples and Oranges but Rutgers recruiting has been terrible and more than likely Greg would be able to convince talent to come, even with his Penn St tie hanging around his neck

What will make or break Schiano is how RU FB plays for him his first season back, play competitively and the press will have his back.
Play like an Ash team, Josh and Ted will have treated him nicer than the press attacking his coaching and his time as a Nit coach won't even be the worst thing said about him.
 

mildone_rivals

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Agree longtime RU fans are not best to gauge.

I think the long term fans are however in many ways more jaded than any recruit. I think recruits would see the vision and care little to nothing re the 2000-2004 record that some like you dwell on.

The narrative that GS guarantees 6 -7 wins and no more (as if that was bad) I think is an absurd one. He may never get there-or he may get us to an OSU win. It's unknown.

But his w-l record is a huge red herring that only those with an ax to grind cite. Kids will see the Louisville win, the last recruiting class and whatever vision is imparted.

Past is no guarantee of future results--good or bad. Don't think there's any hindrance re record whatsoever.
I hear what you're saying. But every coach has a couple/few Louisville-type wins in his history. That's no advantage for Schiano.

The kid and his family will go online and look up the stats on the head coach (and maybe on the assistants). That will make the first impression in terms of how good the coaching staff really is.

After that, some coaches will have to explain away issues in those stats. And some will not.

We need our new head coach to appear as great as possible right from the start. With absolutely no questions or explanations necessary. Because most of the recruits we really want will have other good offers that require no such explanations.
 
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Do you think Hobbs should only consider the opinion of people who love RU and Schiano? Because whomever we hire will have to recruit among people who have zero love for RU or Schiano.

I think Hobbs should consider a broadly diverse set of opinions.

i would agree.

There are those that think Schiano is the worst thing since Spanish influenza and there are those that will slurp popsicles made from his bathwater. Im kind of in the middle laughing at both sides. Id love to have him back but also understand hes not perfect. There are others id also be very happy to have whom Hobbs should definitely consider as well.

That said, Author of the article is a known asshat and the piece itself is laughably biased. This guy doesnt actually care who we hire, he just wants to take a swipe at RU while trashing Greg.
 
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mildone_rivals

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i would agree.

There are those that think Schiano is the worst thing since Spanish influenza and there are those that will slurp popsicles made from his bathwater. Im kind of in the middle laughing at both sides. Id love to have him back but also understand hes not perfect. There are others id also be very happy to have whom Hobbs should definitely consider as well.

That said, Author of the article is a known asshat and the piece itself is laughably biased. This guy doesnt actually care who we hire, he just wants to take a swipe at RU while trashing Greg.
I’d be okay with Schiano too, but only for 2.5/yr and only after we exhaust better, more successful options.
 

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Oh yeah Rodger Sherman, a Northwestern journalism major, wrote the article. It’s not the first article he’s written about Rutgers football and I’m sure it will not be the last. He’s been called an unaccomplished hack by other professionals. Looks like a weasel.
That would make him a Medilldo.