Year 3 under Howland and we have ...

[DAWGS1.sixpack]

NO inside post play.
Can't block out, can't rebound and can't play Defense!

 

[tatedog]

On the bright side, a Rick Ray coached team would be down by 25 at this point.

 

[KurtRambis4]

****, if we think

our offense is struggling now, a Ray team MIGHT have 10 points here.

 

[ShrubDog]

Hate to say it but we look weak as ****. We have no muscle, no aggressiveness and don’t even run any set plays.

Has Q seen the weight room yet...

 

[Shamoan]

Welcome to last year

 

[ShrubDog]

Our rotation is absolutely terrible and Stapleton needs to play more.

Howland must really hate to play a zone because he never plays a zone.

 

[tatedog]

He's a man to man guy. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

 

[ShrubDog]

ya think

 

[KurtRambis4]

If it's one thing

we've done well (generally) its play D, so I'm not gonna really complain about that.

 

[ShrubDog]

There are times when it would be good to change it up for a few possessions and try to put more pressure on the other team.

We got beat by 15 points and stayed in a man to man all night. No pressure, never changed it up, it’s worth a shot sometimes.

 

[KurtRambis4]

We got

beat bc we shot 30% from the field and had 15 turnovers with 9 assists.

I mean maybe going to zone for a few plays would be fun?

 

[ShrubDog]

Yeah it may have created a few fast break points and helped rebounding despite being out rebounded by 4. I mean everything you said contributed to the loss but its more than that.

Generally speaking not just this game man.

 

[KurtRambis4]

Defense was

not why we lost. Bottom line.

We held them to 40%. They avg 48%.

 

[ShrubDog]

Never said that, just said I wish we would make some adjustments sometimes. I know hoops man played many years and love it more than any sport.

 

[KurtRambis4]

Ok.

Well changing up the D wouldn't have changed the result, then.

 

[Jddrew1142]

This won’t be popular but i cant help but wonder what rick ray could have done with this talent. I mean he scored 50 points on some teams with the worst recruiting classes D1 basketball has ever seen. I love the talent Howland is getting but dang our offense is 0-3 passes then a 3 pointer. Never any adjustments.

 

[ShrubDog]

Well changing up the D wouldn't have changed the result, then.

Thinking of a scenario when we cut it to 5, jump into a press or 1-3-1 to get a quick turnover or something like that. The past 3 years we haven’t seen much of that, it’s Howland’s style.

 

[KurtRambis4]

We had 12 fast break

points and 16 from turnovers. I'm not sure having 4-5 more would've changed the game. Again, shooting 30% is a recipe for losing.

 

[hailstate19]

We can't shoot and we take terrible shots. That's not a furmula for success.
it seems like we don't have any consistent shooters besides maybe Carter. I miss the days when Barry Stewart and Ravern Johnson were lighting it up.

 

[DawgsOnTheWing]

Nt getting to charity stripe enough. Got to drive against a zone.

 

[She Mate Me]

NO inside post play.
Can't block out, can't rebound and can't play Defense!

We outrebounded them.

The bench was 0 for 20 and Lamar Peters was absolutely awful. We were lucky to be in it at all.

 

[ShrubDog]

We didn’t out rebound them. 34-30

 

[ShrubDog]

points and 16 from turnovers. I'm not sure having 4-5 more would've changed the game. Again, shooting 30% is a recipe for losing.

A few more fast break layups could have bumped us up to 33%....

 

[maroonmania]

This won’t be popular but i cant help but wonder what rick ray could have done with this talent. I mean he scored 50 points on some teams with the worst recruiting classes D1 basketball has ever seen. I love the talent Howland is getting but dang our offense is 0-3 passes then a 3 pointer. Never any adjustments.

Useless question because Rick Ray would have NEVER had this talent. To be honest, if Stansbury hadn't left a bunch of freshman behind Ray we would have been hard pressed to have fielded a team while he was here. In 3 years Ray signed maybe 1 or 2 players that could even play in the SEC. Worst recruiter I've ever seen as a HC in any major sport at MSU. He even made Croom look like an ace recruiter.

 

[fishwater99]

NO inside post play.
Can't block out, can't rebound and can't play Defense!

Come down off the ledge yet?

 

[She Mate Me]

The ESPN box shows it 38-37 State, but it's probably wrong.

 

[ShrubDog]

Heck man I don’t know how many we had now. I screenshot the boxscore after the game and it was Cincy 34-30. Go back to look on the CBS app just now and it says 33-30.