The talent level is only here because of Cal. We wouldn’t have the talent level with another coach. Also, you can’t say out of one side of your mouth that players leave too soon because they aren’t ready and too young and then complain about how great the talent level is out of the other side of your mouth.
Solid post, but I think a lot of UK fans are starting to doubt Cal's priorities. We want banners and teams, not a new team every year and NBA crap.
SKJ was not recruited as a foundation player. He was a 5* who got recruited over and didn't like it. There are a hundred+ kids between a 5* and a kid like Hawkins. Most have no real shot at the NBA. Their best hope would be the opportunity to practice with and play against the best of the best. They could do that for 4 years and give themselves a real shot.
You don't have to wonder just try being a UK football fan for a couple of years
What's there?? A bunch of wins with one banner? What's there? This isn't Kentucky basketball anymore. It's just a 12 month frat house.
Another inane post from you. It's easily possible to have solid 4 year role players as well as some freshmen/sophomore elite players. It's impossible for you to claim otherwise. That best of both worlds situation would bring even more success, in my opinion.
Sheesh, you're horrible.
Kentucky basketball was the first thing I was ever taught. If you this this version is 'Kentucky basketball' well, it's not. Its a funnel. It's not Kentucky basketball.
I say he won't. Give me any inkling? It's about players, not Kentucky.
What I find funny is the arguments made by the same people
Are you satisfied with one title with all that talent and an annual rotating new roster?
So were you more content in the Tubby, Pitino, Sutton, Hall years? They all had less success than Cal and none of them had more than 1 banner during their tenure here.
Again, being a Kentucky fan isn't just about wins. I absolutely love the wins with Cal.
You seem to be changing your argument a lot. Initially you started out arguing for Sr. and the thrill of senior night and upperclassmen. Now you're switching it around to banners. You said you didn't live in the Rupp years, so no coach in your lifetime has ever won more than 1 banner in their tenure. By your metric of banners mean everything, have you ever been satisfied as a UK fan?
It seems to be about a lot of things for you, which it should be. However, you initially argued you wanted more seniors and more time to build memories and see them participate in SR day. Your last few post have been all about banner count though. And no coach except Rupp has more than 1 here. We've had more chances to win them in Cal's tenure than any other coach has to this point aside for Rupp. I'm not sure what else you could ask for. Sure, it would be nice to win them all, but history proves that very unlikely.
My argument, from the jump, is this is no longer UK basketball. It's a funnel. Sure, a couple FFs are great, but renting players isn't UK basketball.
I wish we had four more titles under Cal. But isn’t that easy. Pitino should have won the title in 1993,1995 and 1997. But he didn’t. He only won one title and it took a roster full of seniors and pros to get that one. It isn’t easy winning a NCAA title. Cal puts UK in a position to win a title.
And it doesn't matter if you make one post or a thousand you are still a terrible poster.
I get it's hard to win a title. I get the luck and a good run. But we can't argue Cal having all this great talent and one banner. And while watching a funnel as fast as possible out of UK.
Actually you can’t argue he has all this great talent and should have more titles while at the same time you argue these kids should stay longer because they are being drafted on potential not how they actually play. Which is it?
What's actually being said is, if Cals system really worked he would have more titles because he has had the talent he wants. That's very different from what you just suggested .
We are on the same page. Although with all the threads on RR, I do believe a lot of folks are losing perspective of their own expectations.
Nope. Not true. The same argument could easily be applied to Hall, Pitino and Tubby with their systems. They all have only one title.
He's had as much success as any coach in the country. Which coach would you rather have? Cal is the guy for me. If you want more every year, then I would put this in the unrealistic expectation category.
No, I'm telling you that's what I'm really saying. You can disagree if you want.
How do you get they are rented? They come here and play their asses off, except for maybe a couple of exceptions. They represent the university in outstanding fashion and appear heartbroken when they fall short. Most of the ones that should return d
f course they are going to come here to put themselves in the best position for their futures, but is't that what all students do? Every coach here has had great talent and experience and only managed to win 1 aside from Rupp. Again, were you displeased with all of them as well?
No, I was pretty clear. You are putting words in my mouth. I never said that at all, you did.
Actually, while this stretch has been a very successful stretch in UK history, it does not compare to the stretch from 1948 - 1958. During that stretch we won 4 NCAA championships. That's probably the most successful stretch in UK basketball history by far.
If you think Pitino’s system worked and Cal’s doesn’t, how do rationalize that when they each won one title and missed out on other numerous opportunities to win other titles?