Who won that game against Wyoming? That's a complete twist on "stats". Who cares about how many yards they passed for in the game? Wyoming was 6-6 last season and was projected to finish in the middle of the pack in the Mountain West. I'm not expecting us to beat Mizzou on Saturday, but your "facts" are spin. How about Wyoming rushing for 7.1 yards per carry? Why did you leave that stat out if we're discussing "facts".
Wvu v Mizzou
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Who won that game against Wyoming? That's a complete twist on "stats". Who cares about how many yards they passed for in the game? Wyoming was 6-6 last season and was projected to finish in the middle of the pack in the Mountain West. I'm not expecting us to beat Mizzou on Saturday, but your "facts" are spin. How about Wyoming rushing for 7.1 yards per carry? Why did you leave that stat out if we're discussing "facts".
Dont know what you mean when you claim Holgorsen had a "clear path" in the BIG 12. It was clear if you ignore Oklahoma, OK State, Texas, TCU, Baylor some years, ISU now, KSU some years, sometimes Tech is very good too.
About the only team not on par with WVu recruiting wise has been Kansas, otherwise the conference is very even in the middle and stacked at the top. Still Holgorsen managed to beat Texas a fair share and beat everyone but conference leader OU during his time. Last year with a host of NFL players, there were still better squads in the conference than WVU. ITs an extremely difficult conference to compete in and especially win-- for some of you, you just dont seem able to comprehend this. Its not the AAC. Or the Mac, or whatever fcs league JMU is in. Its often been rated as the toughest top to bottom P5 conference bar none.
Holgorsen had WVU in contention for that league just last year up until the final game and now you claim he couldnt ever get there?
You talk abouts Holgorsens oline-- when did his teams have only 34 yds rushing? Against a lower division school at that?
The cupboard was not bare, and still is not without talent even though the coach has chased away many starters. Theres no reason WVU shouldnt be going the way of OU and ISU, especially if the anti DH fanview of " anyone can step in and do better" were true.
Settling for less than what DH provided makes no sense for people supposedly so concerned with winning at WVU they worked night and day to have one of the best coaches ever here pushed out.
I never said Missouri won, simply pointed out the game stats.
Even if you cut Mizzous stats in half ( and theres nothing to justify that) WVU still is in trouble .
I stated clearly Wyoming had 297 yds rushing and that gives WVU some hope, but when you only produce 34 yds yourself and against an fcs team, and the coaches are saying Wyoming is built better for that running attack, its not as though its a given WVU can reproduce that.
You reference Wyoming last year, Im talking about THIS year. Why didnt you reference how WVU performed last year as compared to this first game?
Wyoming is a better program than JMU ( dont believe me look at sagarin ratings) they may be better than WVu at this point, I never claimed they were going to the playoff or winning a championship, just stated they are better than JMU by a good margin. And they are.
The fact is Dana did not want to be here. The fact is he left and we hired a new coach who has one game under his belt. I never bashed Dana because I support our team. But many including me, certainly were concerned with how soft Dana's teams were and how many bonehead mental errors they made. You bitching about a coach after one game is kind of like pointing to a single weather for prove of what climate change is. It fits your narrative but really is not a valid argument. The fact is you need many data points to understand the bigger picture.
There were bonehead mental errors made in the first game with the new coach. The team had to eke out a win at home against a lower level team- cant get much softer than that and there wont be a softer team on WVUs schedule. Poor execution all around and coaches admitted they may have prepared the team incorrectly for the running game.
You want to ***** at me but for the last 8 yrs people- probably including you- have been dumping on holgorsen certainly for similar results and even when he did far better.
No reason the new coach should be excused from expectations of success-- after all isnt that whT everyone wanted? Now its ok to perform poorly in a win? Just last year it wasnt acceptable but now for some reason it is? Why exactly?
Now you champion a potential losing season?
Theres no reason WVU should go backwards, after all, so many said anyone could do it.
So what is your point or what is this reality that you've created? That if we lose to Missouri we should fire Neal Brown? lol
If the season is a disaster then its something to consider absolutely.
But what Im saying is theres no reason for anyone to accept lower results than what Holgorsen would have given WVU-- minimum 7-8 wins. WVU should be moving forward, not going backwards.
The new coaching staff by the looks of it will have to work very hard to achieve that.
LOL. Have fun with that. You are standing alone on that island. You need to get over your butthurt from Dana haters. Neal Brown has massive support among the fan base and it would take a LOT to shake that this season.
Now if he's still sputtering in year 2 & 3 we'll circle back to his job securty. But to think we shouldn't expect to take a step back this year is 100% delusional BS. Even if Holgorsen were still here we would struggle this season. This was going to be a down year no matter who the coach was in 2019.
So lets make a judgement after one game? What was Rich's record the first year? Did we get better the following years? Not sure how you read into my post that I was bitching at you. You read into my post and the first game exactly what you want whether it is there or not. Last year our team under performed even under Dana's expectations. This year we do not have one of the top quarterbacks in the country. Having the same expectations for this years team as last years team is not based in reality.
Well Bucky, after all of the CRAP you posted here, you better HOPE we freaking lose on Saturday. Because if we win, you will lose ALL credibility and will NOT be qualified to post on this site EVER again.
Oh Happy Days!
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Some did bash him though. I was gentle in my critique of him. On many occasions I stated that I thought DH was a good coach at the right program and at the right level of college play, but I did not think that he was a good coach for WVU. I thought he was a G5 level coach and the future will reveal if my belief is valid.
I don't think DH wanted to be bad here. I think he was a poor fit. Les Miles may find himself in that boat after a couple of years at Kansas. I do not see him as a good fit there, but I have neither studied Kansas or Les Miles all that much. I always thought he was going to end up at Michigan.
You lost all credibility with that paragraph. Take a lesson from AlGore and Obama (2 of the biggest Captain Planets around) if it were true the ice at both poles are melting and the coastal cities are going to be under water soon, why did they spend there hard earned money on huge beach front mansions?
And here's the proof you're doing nothing but trolling. Hope you get things figured out in your life.
If that is suppose to be the case then why did Holgs go 4-8 (2-7) in 2013? Holgorsen had to come from behind to beat William & Mary in 2013. Should we have fired Holgorsen that year? No.
Everybody knows it's going to be down year. You have no guarantees Holgorsen would have done even better. Holgs never changed his game plans. He stuck to his guns without making adjustments. Sometimes it worked sometimes it didn't.
You have a stick stuck up your *** because Holgorsen decided with a mutual agreement from the AD that it was time to move on.
Go get a life size poster of Holgorsen and masturbate. Or log back on as 304 or whatever multiple profile you choose.
Bottom line WVU is 1-0
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WTF are you smoking? You probably weren't even born then. I'm guessing you play video games in mommy's basement during WVU football games.