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aTotal360

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That seems a little harsh, but if you've haven't been to a HS graduation lately, you need to witness how obnoxious it can be. I don't blame the superintendent one bit. Hell, I wish they would arrest people in the stands. I went to one not too long ago and the parents, cousins, and friends are begging for attention in the stands so THEY can get some attention and hopefully get put on social media doing something cute. It was ridiculous. 75% of the time after a name was called, it was followed by "You go girl...", "that's my boy...", and even choreographed cheers that last 10-20 seconds. And not just 1 or 2 choreographed cheers, lots of them. Then you have to wait for crowd to settle down so the next name can be heard. I bet on average you'd have to wait 30-40s between names. Some kids took 10 seconds. Some it took 3 minutes before the charade was done and the audience settled down. I swear it extended the graduation by 90 minutes to 2 hours. I bet I heard "Save your applause till the end" 1000 times. No one listened.
 
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patdog

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Two things you can be sure of. When someone says, "All I did was...," that's far from all they did. And you will never see a more power hungry person than a school district employee at a high school graduation.
 

mstateglfr

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Huh, I had no idea HS graduations were so bad that they need such dire action.

Crazy. I would be ticked if I had to sit thru a graduation while people performed cheers in the stands. Court is a bit much and hopefully those who have to appear have the charges dismissed, but hopefully it also sends a message to everyone for next graduation that 'please hold your applause' means just that. Respect that there are others around and its a community event- it shouldn't be difficult to do.
 

Drebin

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I love it.

They were disturbing the peace. People today think that they can do whatever the hell they want. Actions have consequences.

Perhaps the superintendent should have told them beforehand that not only you would be removed, but you would be cited for disturbing the peace. Maybe he did that. But I know this...graduations have gotten out of hand, and I'm all for anything that helps restore some level of decorum.
 

Original48

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I love it.

They were disturbing the peace. People today think that they can do whatever the hell they want. Actions have consequences.

Perhaps the superintendent should have told them beforehand that not only you would be removed, but you would be cited for disturbing the peace. Maybe he did that. But I know this...graduations have gotten out of hand, and I'm all for anything that helps restore some level of decorum.
I'm in this camp. Maybe not as far as an arrest, but escort those people out. And before anyone says 'well they have a right and you can't control it and blah blah blah...' why is it that someone's 'right' to express themself can infringe on my right to be free FROM that expression? Amazing that not only are these people taking away from other parents and graduates moments, they are also taking the attention away from their own kid. So if they don't care about their own kid's moment they certainly don't need to be there.
 

thekimmer

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Limbaugh was actually talking about this today........


Not really in a positive manner either. He seemed a bit incredulous that people were actually issued arrest warrants for cheering at a HS graduation. Of course he does not have the perspective of having to sit through the stuff that goes on in such ceremonies these days. It really can get way over the top.
 

patdog

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Simple answer is to just mail every their diploma when all the grades have been posted.
 

FlotownDawg

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They KNEW they would be escorted out of the building, but they did it anyway. It even says the guy yelled, waved his towel and then walked straight out of the door. Some people just don't care about anybody but themselves. They can do what they want to do by God, and nobody is going to tell them any different. It's just the man trying to keep them down.
 

Bulldog Bruce

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I am more disturbed by these comments than any hooting or hollering that might occur. There is no way these type of things are to the level of being against the law. Why don't these same Principals and Administrators fix the school itself instead of worrying about some "you go girl" during the graduation. My daughter had to leave South Panola as a teacher because she got to feeling unsafe. The administration would not back teachers and those certain troublemakers knew they did not have to listen to anyone. They are not willing to arrest kids that start physical altercations, but we are going to waste court time on a "woo hoo".

Could someone reach the level of breaking the law? Sure it is possible, but if it is not some sort of brawl, I don't see it. We don't need the law to protect us from being annoyed. It seems most of the comments here think it should.
 
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maroonmania

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Not really in a positive manner either. He seemed a bit incredulous that people were actually issued arrest warrants for cheering at a HS graduation. Of course he does not have the perspective of having to sit through the stuff that goes on in such ceremonies these days. It really can get way over the top.

What I'm amazed at is why the graduation of HS warrants such celebratory outbursts? Come on, its high school for pete's sake, its not like little Johnny just cured cancer or something.
 
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Rebels7

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That seems a little harsh, but if you've haven't been to a HS graduation lately, you need to witness how obnoxious it can be. I don't blame the superintendent one bit. Hell, I wish they would arrest people in the stands. I went to one not too long ago and the parents, cousins, and friends are begging for attention in the stands so THEY can get some attention and hopefully get put on social media doing something cute. It was ridiculous. 75% of the time after a name was called, it was followed by "You go girl...", "that's my boy...", and even choreographed cheers that last 10-20 seconds. And not just 1 or 2 choreographed cheers, lots of them. Then you have to wait for crowd to settle down so the next name can be heard. I bet on average you'd have to wait 30-40s between names. Some kids took 10 seconds. Some it took 3 minutes before the charade was done and the audience settled down. I swear it extended the graduation by 90 minutes to 2 hours. I bet I heard "Save your applause till the end" 1000 times. No one listened.

Has it really gotten that ridiculous, organized cheers and all? Jesus people, it's just high school. It's about the least society can expect from you academically.
 

Palmettodog

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My son's graduation ceremony is this Saturday, and we've already received an email from the principal stating that any student or their family that disrupts graduation will not receive their diploma. The student and family will have to schedule an appointment with the district superintendent and principal and expain their actions in order to receive their diploma.

I graduated from Meridian High and I can remember Mr. Hodges, loved that guy, telling us at rehersal and prior to the ceremony " no acting a fool" walking across the stage. Of course, there were many students and many families who "acted a fool", dispite the constant request to hold your applause to the end. I find it disruptive and disrespectful to the other families and students. I have no problem with them arresting in this case, because they chose to act out and were blatanly honest about it. Idiots!
 

BossDawg78

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They knew they weren't supposed to yell, but they did it anyway. The request for silence might sound stupid but they have a reason for it. All they had to do was follow a simple request and things would be fine. However, I agree that a warrant for their arrest is going a bit too far. What upsets me more that anything though is how this is already being turned into an incident of racism. This racecard bull$#!t is getting old, fast, and definitely not helping matters.
 

twopack

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partially agree

I am more disturbed by these comments than any hooting or hollering that might occur. There is no way these type of things are to the level of being against the law. Why don't these same Principals and Administrators fix the school itself instead of worrying about some "you go girl" during the graduation. My daughter had to leave South Panola as a teacher because she got to feeling unsafe. The administration would not back teachers and those certain troublemakers knew they did not have to listen to anyone. They are not willing to arrest kids that start physical altercations, but we are going to waste court time on a "woo hoo".

Could someone reach the level of breaking the law? Sure it is possible, but if it is not some sort of brawl, I don't see it. We don't need the law to protect us from being annoyed. It seems most of the comments here think it should.
When was the last high school graduation you attended? I raised my grandson. He lives with me and is currently enrolled at MSU. A couple of years ago he graduated from high school in the jackson area and the ceremony was in the jackson coliseum. Talk about a disgrace. The screaming, the yelling, the 17ing coordinated cheers that went on and on. I could not even hear when his name was called and couldn't even snap a picture until he was walking back down the stairs. Should they be prosecuted? No? Should they take some lessons in respecting other families whose kids are graduating too instead of being total asses and trying to make sure the attention is focused on them? Absolutely. You don't have to have a brawl for it to be ruined. Legal is one thing. Manners is another. As far as your daughter, the school should have expelled the thugs. No way should a teacher have to feel unsafe in their job, but unfortunately that is the PC world we live in today.
 

Center Z

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What is this, 2004?

I had to check to see if something was wrong with the board. "Brief hiatus" made me lol out loud
 

DerHntr

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I am more disturbed by these comments than any hooting or hollering that might occur. There is no way these type of things are to the level of being against the law. Why don't these same Principals and Administrators fix the school itself instead of worrying about some "you go girl" during the graduation. My daughter had to leave South Panola as a teacher because she got to feeling unsafe. The administration would not back teachers and those certain troublemakers knew they did not have to listen to anyone. They are not willing to arrest kids that start physical altercations, but we are going to waste court time on a "woo hoo".

Could someone reach the level of breaking the law? Sure it is possible, but if it is not some sort of brawl, I don't see it. We don't need the law to protect us from being annoyed. It seems most of the comments here think it should.

Bruce you are a good poster but you are mixing apples and oranges this time. Your daughter being scared at school has nothing to do with the parents and friends at graduation disrupting the ceremony. Both should be dealt with (your daughter's situation clearly warrants full attention by their administration).

Graduation is ridiculous. I would like for them to instead state "please hold the applause until the end or graduation will be stopped until you are removed from the building." It would embarrass the student on the stage which is the opposite of their original intent. Do that at a few times and I guarantee you the outbursts and cheers would end for good.
 

o_1984Dawg

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The only thing more ridiculous than the people making fools of themselves at graduations are the people that get upset about it.
 

aTotal360

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Do you recommend turning a blind eye? What is the appropriate action and reaction?
 

EthelTheBulldog

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Agree parents should not yell and scream when child's name is called. Sometimes you can't hear the next name being called out, which takes away from their time to shine. People need to be more respectful. In Jackson, kids often hold hands up, waving in stands, acting a fool, after they get their diploma.

Teacher once told me "If your parents applaud and are loud, they must really be surprised that you ACTUALLY graduated"
 

o_1984Dawg

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I recommend rolling your eyes and getting the 17 over it. It's not THAT big of a deal and you can't do anything about it.
 

DerHntr

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I recommend rolling your eyes and getting the 17 over it. It's not THAT big of a deal and you can't do anything about it.

Apparently they can do something about it considering the link in the first post.
 
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The amount of stupid, over-reaching ******** in this story is rediculous. Stupid on the yelling part when you know it will get you thrown out. Over-reaching on the supers part It a 17ing high school graduation at a public school. Filing charges is moronic. This guy better hope the ACLU doesn't catch wind of this or he will catch more hell than he bargained for.
 

WayboDawg

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People did this at my brother's MSU graduation last year as well. It was especially bad if it was a fraternity member because it would be a long choreographed cheer that went on and on. Almost didn't hear my brother's name get called. I agree that it's pretty evident that the motive for the cheers is to get selfish attention, and not to support the graduate.
 

The Peeper

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I think the easiest solution is to just eliminate all of the "pomp and circumstance" cap and gown academia ******** and just mail the diplomas. Much cheaper than renting coliseums, caps and gowns. And Bruce, these same people causing the problems at graduations are the same self serving, dont give a **** about anybody but themselvss people causing your daughter problems.
 

o_1984Dawg

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1) That only works if you are in a position of authority and 2) they still didn't really do anything but get a load of negative attention. They took a small unwanted distraction and blew it up to a big unwanted distraction.
 

DerHntr

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I think the easiest solution is to just eliminate all of the "pomp and circumstance" cap and gown academia ******** and just mail the diplomas. Much cheaper than renting coliseums, caps and gowns. And Bruce, these same people causing the problems at graduations are the same self serving, dont give a **** about anybody but themselvss people causing your daughter problems.

I would absolutely welcome the end of the graduation ceremony.
 

Bulldog Bruce

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I don't believe so. I was pointing out that at public schools there are students actually breaking the law and these same administrators turn a blind eye to it. But here someone is annoying and people want them to go to JAIL?. They are not putting anyone in harms way. They are not threatening anyone. They are not even being belligerent. They are expressing joy for a loved one.

And to those who balk at the racial issue, the African American graduation rate in Mississippi according to multiple studies is 60 to 68%. So to dismiss that graduating High School is not an accomplishment might not be the case for these students. These might be the first ones in the family to graduate from High School. The funny thing is that people that are complaining are upset because they might not hear the name of the person they are there to see. So either stop the ceremonies or how about let the people who have accomplished this milestone actually bask in the glory. Read a name and let the folks have their little cheer then announce the next name. Let each person feel special as you want to tell them they are already. Cut back on the speeches from the administrators and guests.
 

Shamoan

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why do people act like graduating high school is a big deal? i mean, you can be functionally retarded and still graduate high school.
 

mstateglfr

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What I'm amazed at is why the graduation of HS warrants such celebratory outbursts? Come on, its high school for pete's sake, its not like little Johnny just cured cancer or something.

My sister teaches 5th grade at a school where the kids statistically over the last 15 years graduate high school only 65% of the time. Her school refuses to say or acknowledge the idea that 5th graders have graduated elementary school. This is because they are working to have the word graduation only apply at the high school level and higher.
Unfortunately, parents actually bring large 'GRADUATE' balloons to class on the last day of 5th grade, have graduation parties for their kids, and a few even get caps and gowns for their kids to wear on the last day of school.

The school is in a low income neighborhood with a lot of 1st generation families and all the socioeconomic difficulties that come with parents who both work 18hours a day, food shortage, language barriers, substance abuse, absentee parents, etc etc etc.

Finishing 5th grade is apparently actually an accomplishment. Enough of one where low income families spend money on useless balloons and parties for their kids.
 

GloryDawg

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They should have burned an american flag while shouting than the ACLU would send lawyers to help. But to the point I agree that arresting them is stupid and over board. You ask them to leave.
 

patdog

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1) They took a small unwanted distraction and blew it up to a big unwanted distraction.
Well, we don't really have a clue how "small" the distraction was. I think it's pretty safe to say it was more than the people who by their own admission went to the graduation with the intention of getting kicked out are saying it was. That said, there's very little you can do about it so you're better off just living with it instead of making it a national story.
 

Drebin

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I am more disturbed by these comments than any hooting or hollering that might occur. There is no way these type of things are to the level of being against the law. Why don't these same Principals and Administrators fix the school itself instead of worrying about some "you go girl" during the graduation. My daughter had to leave South Panola as a teacher because she got to feeling unsafe. The administration would not back teachers and those certain troublemakers knew they did not have to listen to anyone. They are not willing to arrest kids that start physical altercations, but we are going to waste court time on a "woo hoo".

Could someone reach the level of breaking the law? Sure it is possible, but if it is not some sort of brawl, I don't see it. We don't need the law to protect us from being annoyed. It seems most of the comments here think it should.

I'm disturbed that you're disturbed by my comments. It's not about arresting someone for annoying people. It's about holding people accountable. These people behave like this because they know there's no repercussions, so rules don't apply to them. If you are warned of the consequences and you do it anyway, you deserve to be cited for it. Perhaps this will prevent someone from doing it next year.
 

SheltonChoked

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Couldn't agree more. The law is there to protect us from things we are afraid of. Not things that piss us off.
 

DudyDawg

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End graduation ceremonies. Responsible parents are creative enough to honor and celebrate with their children in other ways.

Problem with ending the ceremonies is not all kids have a responsible parent to do that.
 

maroonmania

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My sister teaches 5th grade at a school where the kids statistically over the last 15 years graduate high school only 65% of the time. Her school refuses to say or acknowledge the idea that 5th graders have graduated elementary school. This is because they are working to have the word graduation only apply at the high school level and higher.
Unfortunately, parents actually bring large 'GRADUATE' balloons to class on the last day of 5th grade, have graduation parties for their kids, and a few even get caps and gowns for their kids to wear on the last day of school.

The school is in a low income neighborhood with a lot of 1st generation families and all the socioeconomic difficulties that come with parents who both work 18hours a day, food shortage, language barriers, substance abuse, absentee parents, etc etc etc.

Finishing 5th grade is apparently actually an accomplishment. Enough of one where low income families spend money on useless balloons and parties for their kids.

If this problem was isolated just to destitute areas where graduating HS was truly a big deal it still wouldn't make it right but at least it would be understandable. Sadly though, its apparently going on everywhere. Seems to be going right along with the culture losing respect for anything that is suppose to be somewhat dignified.
 
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