"Wright could turn Nova into Duke 2.0"

JLK83

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Quin Snyder is an NBA head coach and former K assistant, but he got in some trouble at Mizzou. Chris Collins probably would have the inside track right now.
 

Cawood86_rivals

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Don't think so. I have yet to see Nova players play dirty by stomping or tripping other players. I have yet to see Wright chide an opponent's player for celebrating a win and lie about it later.
 

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Don't think so. I have yet to see Nova players play dirty by stomping or tripping other players. I have yet to see Wright chide an opponent's player for celebrating a win and lie about it later.

Interesting, during one of ya'll game threads for Nova vs Kansas or Michigan? I believe i saw a post or two that guys didn't realize how "punkish" Nova was. I'm curious if they start getting a lot more attention and keep winning, how soon folks will manufacture reasons to hate Nova.
 
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Figured with Kansas pumping 5 and UNC pumping 7, some of us should explain in horrific deatail how altering your championships will not help you.
I'm with Morg on this one..if those A holes are claiming them we should too..
 

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The Duke situation is weird. They will absolutely remain firmly committed to success. They pay K more than any other collegiate coach regardless of sport so they’ll definitely be willing to pony up for the right guy. The question obviously is will they pick “the right guy.” Replacing a long standing legend is tough. If anyone is into European soccer, just look what happened to Manchester United once Sir Alex Ferguson retired. If Duke was smart, they wouldn’t let Coach K dictate or have too much influence over who succeeds him.
 
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Cawood86_rivals

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Interesting, during one of ya'll game threads for Nova vs Kansas or Michigan? I believe i saw a post or two that guys didn't realize how "punkish" Nova was. I'm curious if they start getting a lot more attention and keep winning, how soon folks will manufacture reasons to hate Nova.
The difference is nobody has to manufacture reasons to dislike duke. Their hypocrisy and dirty players take care of that
 

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As a Nova fan, I'd rather not be compared to Duke, because I can't stand their coach, fans or players. We will not and should never be measured to Kentucky, because you guys are in a class by yourself.

I'm happy just to be a longtime fan of a program that is playing truly elite basketball right now. We're lucky to have Jay Wright. No idea what happens next year or in 5 years but enjoying today.
 
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mrbud

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Duke has won 5 titles in 25 years, more than any other team in that time span....so yes, Other teams would like to emulate that success.

I loathe the Duke program about as much as anyone, but any team/coach that isn’t trying to replicate the same results is doing it wrong.
You mean duke had bought 5 championships
 
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22 years.

Or maybe go back 100 years.

Kentucky 15

Duke 5

Kansas 5

If you aren't chasing Kentucky you aren't doing It right.

You have to double dip on the same year having two different titles to get to 15 but if other schools are going to claim Helms or early NITs, we can claim 11 titles. 8 NCAAs, The 46 NIT (in 76, the NIT had unquestionably fallen to "not in tournament") and the 33 and 54 Helms titles.
 

KingOfBBN

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NCAA championship: Jay Wright has options, and his best is to turn Villanova into Duke 2.0

NBA teams would hire Jay Wright, as would even-larger college powers, but why leave?

by Reid Forgrave
Apr 3, 2018

• Blueblood status for his school. The toughest club to crack in college basketball is the blueblood club. It takes into account a program's sustained history of excellence as well as its current winning ways. Villanova won 165 games during this five-year stretch; that ties an all-time record. Since Villanova won its first national title in 1985, here are the programs that have won three or more national titles: Duke, North Carolina, Kentucky, UConn. Wright has turned Villanova into a blueblood. Period.



I usually don't let things like this irritate me.

Why not use the term "elite"? Is Duke now the standard to which all programs should aspire?

(Sorry if already posted.)

They went from zero titles to five titles in a 24-year span. That’s pretty crazy. Kentucky and UNC had success for decades before that but the only one close to being as successful as them in terms of titles has been UConn who went from zero to four in a 15 year span.

I do agree that Wright would be foolish to leave Nova especially with K and Roy getting older. You win a couple of titles and that success makes recruiting easier for you. He could get them to that type of level where they weren’t really before him despite having one title.

Kentucky and UNC’s success doesn’t stem from one coach. Duke’s does. Wright could be to Nova to what K was to Duke.
 
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Kentucky and UNC’s success doesn’t stem from one coach. Duke’s does. Wright could be to Nova to what K was to Duke.

Not sure that is entirely accurate. Nova won a title under Rollie Massimino, and had some success before that in the early 70s. Duke went to several Final Fours under Vic Bubas in the 60s and Bill Foster before K became coach.

They both had tradition before their current coaches.
 

KingOfBBN

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Not sure that is entirely accurate. Nova won a title under Rollie Massimino, and had some success before that in the early 70s. Duke went to several Final Fours under Vic Bubas in the 60s and Bill Foster before K became coach.

They both had tradition before their current coaches.

Yeah but when it comes to branding and the face of the program, who will be the person who comes to mind? K for Duke, Wright for Nova. Both surpassed anything anyone before them ever did.
 
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nafdu1984

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Give UK Duke's advantages over the past 25 or 30 and we have 7 or 8 titles in that span. Hell, Duke won in 2010 with NO PG. Name me another team that's done that. I'll wait....

Edit: Also, I'm almost positive they're the only program that's ever won a national title without first A) winning their conference tourney or B) winning their conference outright - 2015. Imagine that.

There have been at least two I can think of who have won the NCAA title without winning their conference tourney or regular season
Villanova 1985
Kansas 1988

Too lazy to see if there are more
 
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Cowtown Cat

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There have been at least two I can think of who have won the NCAA title without winning their conference tourney or regular season
Villanova 1985
Kansas 1988

Too lazy to see if there are more
Fair enough. Just seems like I had heard that stat before. Guess not.
 
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