WR Room

[Kakdawg]

I expect us to play the guys who give us the best chance to win. If Betts can't figure out how to get to where he needs to be and can't catch the ball I don't want him on the field just because he's bigger and faster. We played multiple WRs "starters minutes" . I don't really care who trots out on the field for the first play. I'm fine with the kid being in the 2 deep and beyond that it's up to other players beating him out. Being the fastest or biggest WR on the field doesn't mean you're going to be somebody we can depend on to catch a 10 yard pass on 3rd and 8. EVERYBODY wants all of our WRs to be able to house every catch they make but they have to run the right route, catch the ball and be able to block on the >50% of our plays that are run plays.

Fair enough. I just know what it takes to win at a high level in college football. Nothing against the kid but he's not it. Anyone believing he is is wrong. Scott Frost included...

He's not THE problem but personal decisions like this kinda maginfies a part of it. Say what you will right or wrong these kids understand the game. I just wish coaches were a little more flexible in getting them in the field. As a player their is nothing worse than watching someone else play ahead of you when you know you are the better player. If I'm a WR there is no way in hell I'd go to Nebraska ...and I'm the biggest fan.

Again we can agree to disagree on a guy like Liewer. It didn't suprise me a bit though because our staff has done this since day 1. They play the guys who practice the hardest and knows the offense the best. At some point you gotta get some guys on the field. I'm sure BIG defensive coordinators don't mind it a bit though.


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[Laner2]

Will Nixon looks useless

Wot?

 

[oldjar07]

Fair enough. I just know what it takes to win at a high level in college football. Nothing against the kid but he's not it. Anyone believing he is is wrong. Scott Frost included...

He's not THE problem but personal decisions like this kinda maginfies a part of it. Say what you will right or wrong these kids understand the game. I just wish coaches were a little more flexible in getting them in the field. As a player their is nothing worse than watching someone else play ahead of you when you know you are the better player. If I'm a WR there is no way in hell I'd go to Nebraska ...and I'm the biggest fan.

Again we can agree to disagree on a guy like Liewer. It didn't suprise me a bit though because our staff has done this since day 1. They play the guys who practice the hardest and knows the offense the best. At some point you gotta get some guys on the field. I'm sure BIG defensive coordinators don't mind it a bit though.


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Liewer's still young and can improve. I think that would be a more likely scenario under a different coaching staff. But you're right though, he doesn't give us the best chance to win right now and should be getting less playing time.

 

[BuckysBoys1]

Fair enough. I just know what it takes to win at a high level in college football. Nothing against the kid but he's not it. Anyone believing he is is wrong. Scott Frost included...

He's not THE problem but personal decisions like this kinda maginfies a part of it. Say what you will right or wrong these kids understand the game. I just wish coaches were a little more flexible in getting them in the field. As a player their is nothing worse than watching someone else play ahead of you when you know you are the better player. If I'm a WR there is no way in hell I'd go to Nebraska ...and I'm the biggest fan.

Again we can agree to disagree on a guy like Liewer. It didn't suprise me a bit though because our staff has done this since day 1. They play the guys who practice the hardest and knows the offense the best. At some point you gotta get some guys on the field. I'm sure BIG defensive coordinators don't mind it a bit though.


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“They play the guys who practice the hardest and know the offense the best” yea that’s generally what coaches do!

Hypothetically what if Betts, Brown, Nixon, and Manning can’t remember what each play is? NU lines up sees what the D is doing and then signals in the play. If one of those guys is playing the coach can only audible to a play that that WR knows. Which looks like they only know 5 plays. It severely limits the offensive play calls.

 

[HBK4life_rivals100467]

“They play the guys who practice the hardest and know the offense the best” yea that’s generally what coaches do!

Hypothetically what if Betts, Brown, Nixon, and Manning can’t remember what each play is? NU lines up sees what the D is doing and then signals in the play. If one of those guys is playing the coach can only audible to a play that that WR knows. Which looks like they only know 5 plays. It severely limits the offensive play calls.

Our offense is already severely limited. Let the playmakers make plays. What's the worst that could happen? We finally get a few big plays downfield more than 30 yards?? Toss it up and let Manning, Brown, Allen and Betts go get it.

 

[dinglefritz]

Our offense is already severely limited. Let the playmakers make plays. What's the worst that could happen? We finally get a few big plays downfield more than 30 yards??

We ARE in fact playing potential big play guys at WR on most of our snaps. We have to play multiple guys in order to keep guys fresh. Leiwer is just part of the rotation. One of the reasons people are bitching is that Adrian seems to throw to him fairly often. Guess what, if you're able to get open and your QB trusts you to catch the ball he's probably going to throw it to you. The other factor is that over half of our plays are run plays and Leiwer is probably our best blocking WR.

People are bitching as if Leiwer is the only WR on the field. Lubick etal have said that Martin is one of the fastest guys on the team. Toure is a stud. Manning is a stud. Betts is a stud as well but both Manning and Betts supposedly are having some issues with running the right routes. Goodness we need to win more games so people can find something important to ***** about.

 

[HBK4life_rivals100467]

We ARE in fact playing potential big play guys at WR on most of our snaps. We have to play multiple guys in order to keep guys fresh. Leiwer is just part of the rotation. One of the reasons people are bitching is that Adrian seems to throw to him fairly often. Guess what, if you're able to get open and your QB trusts you to catch the ball he's probably going to throw it to you. The other factor is that over half of our plays are run plays and Leiwer is probably our best blocking WR.

People are bitching as if Leiwer is the only WR on the field. Lubick etal have said that Martin is one of the fastest guys on the team. Toure is a stud. Manning is a stud. Betts is a stud as well but both Manning and Betts supposedly are having some issues with running the right routes. Goodness we need to win more games so people can find something important to ***** about.

Last year if I recall correctly we were last in the country with 1 play over 40 yards all season. Something pathetic like that. That's important and shows how inept this QB and offense is.

 

[dinglefritz]

Last year if I recall correctly we were last in the country with 1 play over 40 yards? Something pathetic like that. That's important and shows how inept this QB and offense is.

Martin helped our WR corp immensely when he started playing last year but the emphasis last year was to read the routes from short to deep according to Lubick. This year it's deep to short supposedly. The problem is that Adrian looks like he's afraid to take shots and give guys like Manning a chance to make a play. His freshman year he did that a fair amount. Maybe Toure helps his confidence going forward. They seem to have made the connection.

 

[oldjar07]

I want the total package. Can catch, willing to do the dirty work and block nasty, and knows where they're supposed to be. I think too many dudes come in as former number ones and don't adapt well to the team game

I think that describes Manning if we can actually keep him on the field. He was making highlight reel catches in high school, has speed and size, and is a great blocker. He needs to be on the field.

 

[EastOregonHusker]

Walk on is a euphemism for white guy. When I see walk on wide open, I don't care. Throw him the ball.

No it isn’t. It is generally a less physically gifted player. One of our very obvious problems is the inability of out wrs to get separation.

 

[dinglefritz]

I think that describes Manning if we can actually keep him on the field. He was making highlight reel catches in high school, has speed and size, and is a great blocker. He needs to be on the field.

He's getting some reps but it sounds like he missed some practice and is having some issues with the plays. If he ever gets up to full speed with the offense he can be a beast. IMO, we've got as much talent at WR as we've had that I can remember.

No it isn’t. It is generally a less physically gifted player. One of our very obvious problems is the inability of out wrs to get separation.

The WRs tonight weren't getting separation tonight in this FSU/ND game either but Coan and Milton were hitting them in stride where the defense couldn't defend it. The one long TD pass from Coan was perfectly thrown. Quite a show.

 

[bama_husker]

Hunter Renfrow was a walk on at Clemson. It’s not uncommon. I think you’ll see others overtaking him as the year goes on.

He was also drafted in the 5th round. Occasionally walk-ons are the best player at their position, and NFL caliber. It's not common, though.

 

[NebChicago]

Clemson won a Nattie with a walk on WR playing at least half of their snaps and he had the game winning TD in one of their playoff wins.....

Yeah but Renfro happens to be an nfl talent who was burning jalen Ramsey this preseason. Not a normal walk on situation

 

[Headcard]

Will Nixon looks useless

Has he even touched the ball yet?

 

[leodisflowers]

Alante Brown needs the rock more. Made some solid grabs and has so wiggle

 

[Kakdawg]

Have you watched the kid play? He's been one of our most consistent WRs for the past two years. I realize that's like being the skinniest Iowa cheerleader but damn. Betts can't figure out where he's supposed to run his routes and apparently Manning has had some issues. We need a lot of WRs to play to keep guys fresh so Liewer plays. He's a solid player. People hear white walk on WR and they assume he's slow. That isn't the case.

I just watch him play. Nothing more than that and it tells me all I need to know. I didn't call him slow, white walk on, or anything else. He just isn't a good WR to me. We have better ,more dangerous guys who actually have upside. Their ceilings are much higher yet for whatever reason we are content with playing guys who have the highest floor instead of the highest ceiling. We will never agree on this so I'll leave it alone. I'm not ok watching our more talented guys portal out because they don't do things "the right way" . While guys who DO do things "the right way" show every week why they shouldn't be starting or seeing significant reps.


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[Kakdawg]

Do you remember one of our WRs only making it in to NU because of relaxation of admissions standards because of COVID? I do. Manning struggled to get eligible as well. I don't know how to break it to everyone but not every football player is on the Honor Roll in high school. The play book isn't that tough. Missing practice time doesn't help you either.

So we are recruiting guys too dumb to learn the playbook? Well how bout dumb it down so they can get it. Coach em up. Simplify and let them do things they do best. Exactly what has knowing the entire playbook done for guys like Falck and Leiwer so far?


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[Kakdawg]

Liewer's still young and can improve. I think that would be a more likely scenario under a different coaching staff. But you're right though, he doesn't give us the best chance to win right now and should be getting less playing time.

I agree Leiwer is young and may improve. My reply is so is Brown,Betts, Nixon, etc. Again I hate being hard on the kid because it is absolutely NOT his fault. I'm not even saying a guy like Nixon should be playing ahead of him because I haven't seen anything other than him in the Spring game. But I've seen enough already from guys like Brown, Manning, and Betts to recognize they are more talented and somehow coaches need to find ways to get them on the field more. I'm not sure if Falck is a walk on or a scholly guy but the same could be said about him also.

I know guys struggle with parts of the playbook at times maybe. Maybe don't block as well sometimes. So you get them out there and put them in position to do things they excel at early. Get them some confidence and let them grow. HONESTLY I actually think they are bringing Manning along just like that. Each week he appears to get more comfortable doing more things and they will benefit from that as the year goes on. I hope they do the same with Betts and Brown because those guys have the ability to change our offense IF we get their best. But you don't get better on the bench...that's a fact.


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[King Kong]

Do you remember one of our WRs only making it in to NU because of relaxation of admissions standards because of COVID? I do. Manning struggled to get eligible as well. I don't know how to break it to everyone but not every football player is on the Honor Roll in high school. The play book isn't that tough. Missing practice time doesn't help you either.

Look, I understand some of your comments, bit I can tell you from where I was sitting at the game, Bettes was wide open (6 yard windows) on 5 separate occasions and didn't see the ball.

 

[Kakdawg]

“They play the guys who practice the hardest and know the offense the best” yea that’s generally what coaches do!

Hypothetically what if Betts, Brown, Nixon, and Manning can’t remember what each play is? NU lines up sees what the D is doing and then signals in the play. If one of those guys is playing the coach can only audible to a play that that WR knows. Which looks like they only know 5 plays. It severely limits the offensive play calls.

Being brutally honest you don't think other coaches have "not so smart" players who get on the field and make plays? Or are we the only team in the country who recruits "borderline" student athletes? Come on man...that's coaching. As a coach you get these guys up to par so you can get them on the field. The EASY thing is to throw guys who know it all out there. But if they aren't talented enough to make plays what difference does it make? You end up like we did last week against Illinois. 4 WRs out their and only 1 or 2 of them can get any kind of seperation from man coverage because they aren't talented enough. As a coach that has to be frustrating. But you better coach yourself into options. Especially when you have guys talented enough to beat that type of coverage sitting on the bench.

Imagine Illinois doing that if we had Martin ,Toure, Manning, Betts/Brown out their instead of Leiwer,Falck, Hickman. Again not to bash them but I seen those 3 out there on our final drive against Illinois with Toure and all I could do was shake my head. If we are running that out there against BIG calibur DBs we are in trouble. Hell Illinois isn't even a good defense. They covered us up man AND had a spy on Adrian. THATS how much they were worried about our receiving group.

There has to be some flexibility with getting guys on the field.


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[Kakdawg]

He's getting some reps but it sounds like he missed some practice and is having some issues with the plays. If he ever gets up to full speed with the offense he can be a beast. IMO, we've got as much talent at WR as we've had that I can remember.

The WRs tonight weren't getting separation tonight in this FSU/ND game either but Coan and Milton were hitting them in stride where the defense couldn't defend it. The one long TD pass from Coan was perfectly thrown. Quite a show.

Agreed...Those guys made a couple deep throws that were spot on. As a whole though Coan was really good. The kid from FSU not so much. He has a better feel for the game than Adrian does though. Adrian seems to do everything a step late. He runs a step later than he needs to. Throws the ball to WRs a tick later than he should often. He waits to late to check down to open backs in the flat also. It's frustrating for sure. The one thing that throws him off is when he has to hold the ball. When he's on schedule getting it out generally good things happen. BUT if he has to go to a secondary read it's a crapshoot. I actually wish he would just tuck it and run after his 2nd read. I think he'd do better.


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[Kakdawg]

Yeah but Renfro happens to be an nfl talent who was burning jalen Ramsey this preseason. Not a normal walk on situation

Cmon dude. Let's not compare preseason games to real games. We recognize Renfro as a quality walk on and a decent NFL player. Let's not act like he's the second coming of Jerry Rice. He made a play or two vs Ramsey in a preseason game...Great!

Let's not act like he's a Jalen Ramsey type talent or player though. This is the problem I have. If our walk ons WERE Renfro type guys I wouldn't be complaining about them. Using Renfro proves the point. Very good walk on capable of playing in the NFL. Nobody is complaining about guys like that who play.

Also let's remember this is the exception and not the rule.


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[dinglefritz]

No it isn’t. It is generally a less physically gifted player. One of our very obvious problems is the inability of out wrs to get separation.

And yet Leiwer seemed to get open the most of any receiver on the roster until Toure emerged this week. I don't get it. He's less gifted physically yet he's called our best blocking WR by our coaches AND he's one of the guys who does in fact seem to get open the most(separate)....yet he doesn't give us the best chance to win.

 

[dinglefritz]

Look, I understand some of your comments, bit I can tell you from where I was sitting at the game, Bettes was wide open (6 yard windows) on 5 separate occasions and didn't see the ball.

You know I'm at a bit of a disadvantage because I didn't make it to the game and have to rely on what I saw on TV last year and at Illinois. From what I've read and heard Betts isn't getting more snaps and targets because he doesn't catch the ball in practice. That said, I'm on record multiple times on this board being disappointed with Adrian's ability to find the open guy and get him the ball accurately.

 

[dinglefritz]

I agree Leiwer is young and may improve. My reply is so is Brown,Betts, Nixon, etc. Again I hate being hard on the kid because it is absolutely NOT his fault. I'm not even saying a guy like Nixon should be playing ahead of him because I haven't seen anything other than him in the Spring game. But I've seen enough already from guys like Brown, Manning, and Betts to recognize they are more talented and somehow coaches need to find ways to get them on the field more. I'm not sure if Falck is a walk on or a scholly guy but the same could be said about him also.

I know guys struggle with parts of the playbook at times maybe. Maybe don't block as well sometimes. So you get them out there and put them in position to do things they excel at early. Get them some confidence and let them grow. HONESTLY I actually think they are bringing Manning along just like that. Each week he appears to get more comfortable doing more things and they will benefit from that as the year goes on. I hope they do the same with Betts and Brown because those guys have the ability to change our offense IF we get their best. But you don't get better on the bench...that's a fact.


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I didn't get to the game and TV doesn't give you a great perspective of the whole field so I'm at a bit of a disadvantage. All I know is that last year Leiwer got open a bunch and made some catches. Would I love to see guys like Betts, Brown and Manning get more catches? Absolutely. I also remember though that we don't pass the ball on every play and only one WR can catch the ball on any given play. So what is probably more important than the number of snaps a guy plays is the number of targets he gets. Toure got the majority of the targets yesterday. Leiwer has been in the past that safety blanket for Adrian. It appears Toure has taken that role. Falk I think is on scholarship now. Don't remember if he walked on when he grad transferred. He's a fast dude with good hands.

As far as the number of snaps for Betts and Manning goes, I think those guys have a set of plays that both they and the coaches are comfortable with and the coaches try to get those guys snaps on those plays. I think that will probably increase as the season progresses but let's not kid ourselves, Toure is the guy right now. He's the whole package and as such he got the most targets Saturday. The past is littered with guys with all kinds of talent who couldn't get on the field in college for various reasons. Just because a guy is extremely talented doesn't mean he can be trusted to play. I'm all for playing bigger faster receivers but damn they have to know the play book and consistently catch the ball in practice.

 

[Cidsports]

Oliver Martin is either 2nd or 3rd. He wasn’t 100% So they rested him

TDs for Michigan, Iowa and now Nebraska.

Best wishes to the Iowa City native on Saturday.

 

[Dean Pope]

It's pretty simple my guy. You play your best players. If we have four walk on guys on our KO team I'm not buying the fact that we are playing our best players.

None is against playing walk ons. I'm against playing below average walk ons at the expense of more talented scholarship players.

I didn't have a problem with a Todd Peterson at WR. Joel or Jeff Mackovicka at FB., Spencer Long on the OL, or Matt OHanlon at safety. But don't confuse the guys we have running down there with them. There isn't near as much talent as their used to be walking on at NU.

Sooner or later THIS year when those guys actually have to cover a kick you are gonna see what I mean.

Hell, the Mackovicka boys wouldn't even get to play at NU since the fullback isn't a part of Scott Frost's cutting edge brilliant offensive scheme. But while the walkon talent is down, the scholarship talent is also down-- probably at a greater rate than the walkons.

It's never been easier to get playing time in a Husker uniform. Instead of having a sense of entitlement, those scholarship guys need to earn time on special teams. Maybe some of those guys are just too soft. I know one NU cornerback who is such a weak tackler that he shouldn't be anywhere near a coverage unit.

 

[dinglefritz]

Has he even touched the ball yet?

We often put 3 WRs on the field at once and only one guy can get targeted IF we throw the ball. You subtract the sacks and running plays and the odds are somebody isn't going to get the rock even if they're in the game a fair amount.

 

[dinglefritz]

TDs for Michigan, Iowa and now Nebraska.

Best wishes to the Iowa City native on Saturday.

I've said it since last fall. I think he's our best WR and our coaches have said he's maybe the fastest

 

[dinglefritz]

Hell, the Mackovicka boys wouldn't even get to play at NU since the fullback isn't a part of Scott Frost's cutting edge brilliant offensive scheme. But while the walkon talent is down, the scholarship talent is also down-- probably at a greater rate than the walkons.

It's never been easier to get playing time in a Husker uniform. Instead of having a sense of entitlement, those scholarship guys need to earn time on special teams. Maybe some of those guys are just too soft. I know one NU cornerback who is such a weak tackler that he shouldn't be anywhere near a coverage unit.

The Mackovickas would probably be linebackers or safeties IF they were at Nebraska today. That said, with the increase in scholarships and the rise of the Dakota schools to D-1, they would probably opt to play at SDSU. I'll ask their sister next time I see her what she thinks.

 

[Kakdawg]

Hell, the Mackovicka boys wouldn't even get to play at NU since the fullback isn't a part of Scott Frost's cutting edge brilliant offensive scheme. But while the walkon talent is down, the scholarship talent is also down-- probably at a greater rate than the walkons.

It's never been easier to get playing time in a Husker uniform. Instead of having a sense of entitlement, those scholarship guys need to earn time on special teams. Maybe some of those guys are just too soft. I know one NU cornerback who is such a weak tackler that he shouldn't be anywhere near a coverage unit.

Agree both scholarship talent and walk on talent is down. No argument from me there. I'm not sure they have a sense of entitlement. This is year 4. These for the most part are all Scotts guys. If you wanna tell me early in that was the case I'd be ok with it. If it's year four and that's the case that's in the coach and who he's recruiting.

I have a pretty simply question. Do you think our coaches or more specifically Scott attempts to get more walk ons on special teams playing time? OR do you think these guys are the best guys we have to play said positions?


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[Bill_Callahan2.0_rivals121792]

We’re two games in and already 2 separate 100 yard receivers. Seems like a good thing, let’s keep getting better. Only hope we have

 

[19Football19]

I've said it since last fall. I think he's our best WR and our coaches have said he's maybe the fastest

Who, Wan’Dale? Not a bad first game for Kentucky. 5 catches, 125 years, 2 TD’s. SMH

 

[dinglefritz]

Who, Wan’Dale? Not a bad first game for Kentucky. 5 catches, 125 years, 2 TD’s. SMH

Martin was our best WR at the end of the year last year. Wandale is a good player but he doesn't have Martin's top end speed and he's a liability as a downfield or edge blocker.

 

[huskercabby]

Yup...and KO coverage as well. It's almost like there is some kinda unwritten rule that you MUST play 4 walk on on KO.


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Actually, it is. Why else would you have 500 walk ons in the program.

 

[Kakdawg]

I didn't get to the game and TV doesn't give you a great perspective of the whole field so I'm at a bit of a disadvantage. All I know is that last year Leiwer got open a bunch and made some catches. Would I love to see guys like Betts, Brown and Manning get more catches? Absolutely. I also remember though that we don't pass the ball on every play and only one WR can catch the ball on any given play. So what is probably more important than the number of snaps a guy plays is the number of targets he gets. Toure got the majority of the targets yesterday. Leiwer has been in the past that safety blanket for Adrian. It appears Toure has taken that role. Falk I think is on scholarship now. Don't remember if he walked on when he grad transferred. He's a fast dude with good hands.

As far as the number of snaps for Betts and Manning goes, I think those guys have a set of plays that both they and the coaches are comfortable with and the coaches try to get those guys snaps on those plays. I think that will probably increase as the season progresses but let's not kid ourselves, Toure is the guy right now. He's the whole package and as such he got the most targets Saturday. The past is littered with guys with all kinds of talent who couldn't get on the field in college for various reasons. Just because a guy is extremely talented doesn't mean he can be trusted to play. I'm all for playing bigger faster receivers but damn they have to know the play book and consistently catch the ball in pr

I didn't get to the game and TV doesn't give you a great perspective of the whole field so I'm at a bit of a disadvantage. All I know is that last year Leiwer got open a bunch and made some catches. Would I love to see guys like Betts, Brown and Manning get more catches? Absolutely. I also remember though that we don't pass the ball on every play and only one WR can catch the ball on any given play. So what is probably more important than the number of snaps a guy plays is the number of targets he gets. Toure got the majority of the targets yesterday. Leiwer has been in the past that safety blanket for Adrian. It appears Toure has taken that role. Falk I think is on scholarship now. Don't remember if he walked on when he grad transferred. He's a fast dude with good hands.

As far as the number of snaps for Betts and Manning goes, I think those guys have a set of plays that both they and the coaches are comfortable with and the coaches try to get those guys snaps on those plays. I think that will probably increase as the season progresses but let's not kid ourselves, Toure is the guy right now. He's the whole package and as such he got the most targets Saturday. The past is littered with guys with all kinds of talent who couldn't get on the field in college for various reasons. Just because a guy is extremely talented doesn't mean he can be trusted to play. I'm all for playing bigger faster receivers but damn they have to know the play book and consistently catch the ball in practice.

I can't even get past the point that you said Leiwer has been Adrians safety blanket in the past...SERIOUSLY dude he had 3 catches for 22 yards last year! Is that what you would call a safety blanket? C'mon man. You seem like a very nice guy and I don't mind debating but stuff like that makes it hard to take you serious. 3 catches for 22 yards? The Florida kid Fleming had more yards and catches and he transferred out midseason. C'mon man...don't do that.

You talk about people not liking the kid. It isn't personal but you aren't doing him any favors fabricating stuff to make him seem like a viable threat when we have seen it with our own eyes.

I get it just say you like the kid and you are glad he is playing. You think it's Ok for him to be playing ahead of other guys who are more talented for whatever reason. I can respect that better than just made up stuff. I'm sure that kid is a wonderful guy and I wish him the best. I just don't think he's a very good WR. It's nothing more than that. It isn't personal for me. Somehow It seems a bit personal for you and the kid...Maybe some family ties or something. Either way I'm done with it. It doesn't do either of us any good. At the end of the day Frost will make those decisions and live and die with them .


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[steinek11]

Ok....What are your expectations of the program? If you are ok with guys like Leiwer starting and getting starters minutes you should probably lower your expectation. He's not starting anywhere in the BIG...I'm sorry



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We need better wide receiver coaching.

 

[cdriftt24]

There was one 3rd down play where Manning was running downfield one-on-one vs a CB with no safety help. Martinez hesitated for several seconds before dumping the ball short of the first down marker. Why can't we throw the ball to our 6'4" 225 beast and let him go get it? It's freaking Fordham

And the announcers were making it seem like he was blanketed. Single coverage with atleast a yard of separation and still don’t give him a chance? Just have to be able to pull the trigger and trust your guy to make a play! Armstrong would have yolo’d that baby up there no doubt!

 

[dinglefritz]

It isn't personal for me. Leiwer targets will drop as other guys like Toure step up and show they can get open and catch the ball. I've never claimed him to be a homerun hitter. If you want to categorize him he's a possession receiver. He fills a role. That's what walk ons do. As guys like Manning get more acclimated to the offense and Martin returns from his injury Leiwer's pass catching role will probably decline. I think it's pretty sh##y for posters on this board to call a walk on out by name as our "worst receiver" when in fact he has scholarship guys below him that haven't been able to beat him out.

There is WAY more to being a college receiver than your 40 time and star ranking coming out of high school. Rick Spielman on the Vikings broadcast last weekend said about one of the Vike's WRs, "as a WR coach at Nebraska told my son JD a couple of years ago, no block no rock".

 

[huskercabby]

Actually, it is. Why else would you have 500 walk ons in the program.

PLUS, THE NEW ADDITION IS REALLY FOR THE INFLUX OF EVEN MORE WALK ONS. STATE OF THE ART STRENGTH AND CONDITIONING TO MAKE ALL THE WALK ONS STRONGER AND FASTER. IT WILL BE AMAZING!!