Wow.....

DvlDog4WVU

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You sure? Cause then it’s definitive what it says, no more assumptions.

What’s the hold up now? It was the midterms, then the Mueller Report.
I’m 100% sure.

I have no idea what the holdup is not do I care one way or the other. At this point, I want it all out there to decide for myself.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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And yet you've bought in to the ********. Odd.
What ********?

Brother, after the Mueller thing ended with a thud that even you trumpeted for the last year, I’d be hesitant to talk **** about people buying into ********.
 

WVUCOOPER

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What ********?

Brother, after the Mueller thing ended with a thud that even you trumpeted for the last year, I’d be hesitant to talk **** about people buying into ********.
Defending an investigation from conspiracy nonsense is trumpeting? lol.
 

TarHeelEer

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What ********?

Brother, after the Mueller thing ended with a thud that even you trumpeted for the last year, I’d be hesitant to talk **** about people buying into ********.

I'm not sure how they can even show their faces around here. I'd be humiliated.
 

WVUCOOPER

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The investigation itself was based on conspiracy.

/chefskiss
lol Based on....? Such garbage. Even Trey Gowdy said there'd be an investigation without the dossier. Is he in on it too? Man this goes DEEP. I hope we have enough cells.
 

mule_eer

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My father always said the answer was term limits - I always argued - now I think he was dead on
Gerrymandering is a bigger issue than term limits IMO. I'll caveat this the same way as always - this is not an indictment of just one party. The Dems in Maryland are every bit as bad as the GOP in North Carolina. That sort of stuff creates guaranteed wins for house seats in some districts for some parties. The problem is that the challenge for that seat will not legitimately come in the general election. It will come in the primary. So Congressman Senator of safely Dem district X decides to vote in favor of something that is proposed by Congressman Doe (R). Now, someone left of Congressman Senator is going to run against him in the primary citing that vote as proof that he's not really a Dem. The same stuff is happening on the other side of the aisle. Now we keep pushing our representatives further from the middle, and we end up with no common ground, and no reason to seek common ground because it is potentially damaging to your political career.

While I'm soapboxing, I'd like to point out that the claims that AOC is representative (no pun intended) of the Dems that took over the House, it's not factually correct. The folks who swung that were moderate dems who took over republican seats. Those folks don't get the attention they should, but moderate talking points rarely get any airplay - no good for ratings.
 

79eer

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The investigation itself was based on conspiracy.

/chefskiss
Of course it was, and even worse. If you have any thought or belief whatsoever that you could EVER convince these far left Libs that It was nothing but a complete and total sham from the get go, ............ God bless you
 

TarHeelEer

Freshman
Dec 15, 2002
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Gerrymandering is a bigger issue than term limits IMO. I'll caveat this the same way as always - this is not an indictment of just one party. The Dems in Maryland are every bit as bad as the GOP in North Carolina. That sort of stuff creates guaranteed wins for house seats in some districts for some parties. The problem is that the challenge for that seat will not legitimately come in the general election. It will come in the primary. So Congressman Senator of safely Dem district X decides to vote in favor of something that is proposed by Congressman Doe (R). Now, someone left of Congressman Senator is going to run against him in the primary citing that vote as proof that he's not really a Dem. The same stuff is happening on the other side of the aisle. Now we keep pushing our representatives further from the middle, and we end up with no common ground, and no reason to seek common ground because it is potentially damaging to your political career.

While I'm soapboxing, I'd like to point out that the claims that AOC is representative (no pun intended) of the Dems that took over the House, it's not factually correct. The folks who swung that were moderate dems who took over republican seats. Those folks don't get the attention they should, but moderate talking points rarely get any airplay - no good for ratings.

You do realize that the Democrats controlled everything in NC until 2012? While the Republicans have modified them to assist them since, they are not that much different from when Dems had control.
 

mule_eer

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May 6, 2002
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You do realize that the Democrats controlled everything in NC until 2012? While the Republicans have modified them to assist them since, they are not that much different from when Dems had control.
What I know of NC districting is the case that was brought against the redistricting map. Feel free to substitute TX or some other state if you'd like.