What country(s) are on their way to help King Trump reopen the Straits of Hormuz? take your time. thx
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How many more American service members will give their lives in Trump's ill advised military adventurism? Looks like the only country now moving oil through the Straits is Iran. Crazy huh? Doh!
Do you know how many military members die every year from training mishaps? In 2017 21 died in combat while 80 died in accidents.
Or how many died from hands of Iran since the early 1980s.
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What's ill advised about kicking the CCP's proxies *** and are you really stupid enough to think we won't get control of shipping lanes when we are ready?
I can tell you what's happening in Ecuador. Act Blue money is drying up below the border.
Hey GI Joe, All it takes is a boat and a rocket launcher to set a tanker on fire or endanger crew members. HAPAG-LLOYD female supervisor in gulf said they're not budging ships until safer/resolved. Trump refused to listen to everyone who said don't do it and now he has essentially put Iran in control. He's been punching down on our allies and no one wants to help him now. That place is shut down except for when Iran wants to send some oil to Chinese while oil prices stay high or go higher. Trump overestimated our military, misread the situation and made a horrible decision that he doesn't know how to get out of now.
Which has nothing to do with this issue. More American military deaths means more MAGA fund raising off their sacrifices so there's that.
Stop watching Morning Joe and CNN that **** will rot your brain. More importantly Central Command and Commanders in theater are also not taking their advise. They are systematically doing what needs to be done and will accomplish their objectives.
Yes because everything Trump is doing right now is about elections and polls. Or he's doing what our previous Presidents should have done along time ago from both parties. Get a grip you sound like Iranian Propaganda.
The truth hurts. Check out comments from the just now resigned war hero head of U.S. Counterterrorism Center.
Last time this pipeline operated it puked out CA's largest oil spill? hope it's fixed, best of luck.
Trump needs to cut his losses and get out of there asap. Middle East wars, especially this one, are a trap. We will lose by not winning and Iran will 'win' by not losing. 'No imminent threat'.
He reigned instead of attempting to undermine from within. I can respect that and not agree with his assessment of the situation. You not understanding that concept is why you shouldn't be talking about truth. You have an opinion and it's not based on the the big picture of how things are connected from Below the Border all the way back Tehran then to Beijing.
So everyone should start riding a bicycle because of an accident? You sound like someone who burned up most of your brain cells during the 1960's.
We have won the battles but not the wars since WW2 because of weakness from Politicians. Because they sounded like you are now. Hence why I'm against forever wars being lead by the New Democrat Party and RINOS. New Leadership now who understands that so I'm will willing to give him some time because I know what we are capable of when we fight to win.
How many citizens have died in the US because terrorist are allowed to enter this country freely?
Ran across this commentary from roughly two years ago. Still relevant, particularly for those on the Left like the OP who still don't understand what we are fighting in the Middle East.
Source
www.prageru.com
May 12, 2014
Why are so many people with so many different perspectives -- from the Prime Minister of Israel, to the King of Saudi Arabia -- so worried that Iran might build a deliverable nuclear weapon? Or to put it even more simply: why do we have to stop Iran from getting the bomb?
The reason is painfully obvious: They might actually use it.
France has nuclear weapons. So does the United Kingdom. But nobody worries that they will use them. It’s not nuclear weapons that are the problem. It’s who has them and what they might do with them.
“We do not worship Iran, we worship Allah,” said Iranian Leader Ayatollah Khomeini in 1980. “I say let this land burn. I say let this land go up in smoke, provided Islam remains triumphant in the rest of the world.”
A militant nation that does not fear its own destruction is a sure threat to its enemies. And that threat is taken to a whole new level if the militant nation arms itself with nuclear weapons.
Who are the enemies of the Islamic Republic of Iran?
There are three:
The first enemy of Iran is the United States of America.
A common slogan chanted by Iranians at public rallies is “Death to America.” But it’s not just a slogan. Iran has been committing actual acts of war against what it calls “The Great Satan” for over three decades.
There was Iran’s seizure of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran in 1979, the 1983 bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut that killed 241 American servicemen, and the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia that killed another 19 Americans -- not to mention the War in Iraq, during which Iran did little to disguise the fact that it supplied anti-American militias with sophisticated, armor-piercing munitions responsible for the maiming and death of hundreds of U.S. soldiers.
A nuclear Iran could greatly expand its efforts to harm American interests, secure in the knowledge that its possession of nuclear weapons would make any military retaliation extremely unlikely.
And over time, and not much time, a nuclear Iran could develop the sort of intercontinental ballistic missiles that would bring American and European cities within range of its weapons.
A second enemy of Iran, which is a Shiite Muslim nation, are the Sunni Muslim nations of the Middle East. An Iranian bomb would instantly spark a nuclear arms race in the region as Arab states -- nearly all of which have majority Sunni populations -- move to defend themselves against aggression from Iran.
As these regimes and dictatorships race to become nuclear powers, the chances that nuclear weapons might be used, either directly or through terrorist proxies, grow exponentially.
And the third and ultimate enemy of Iran is Israel.
Only around a thousand miles separate the Islamic Republic from The Jewish State. Iranian leaders have called Israel “a rabid dog,” “a cancerous tumor that needs to be cut away,” and have called publicly and repeatedly for Israel’s “annihilation.”
They wage a continuous terrorist war against Israel through their proxies, Hezbollah and Hamas.
Former Iranian President Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani -- a man often described as a moderate and a pragmatist in the Western press -- articulated the Iranian position this way:
“If one day, the Islamic world is also equipped with weapons like those that Israel possesses now, then the imperialists’ strategy will reach a standstill because the use of even one nuclear bomb inside Israel will destroy everything. However, one bomb will only harm the Islamic world.” He’s right.
That’s why the civilized and sensible leaders of the world cannot allow Iran to develop nuclear weapons.
Because once the Iranians do, they will pose a severe threat to the security of America and Europe, spark a regional arms race that could see the world’s worst players acquire the world’s worst weapons, and threaten the Jews with extermination for the second time in a century.
Or to put it more simply: Iran cannot be allowed to get the bomb because they might actually use it.
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Iran and the Bomb | PragerU
Bret Stephens explains why a nuclear Iran is a grave global threat, highlighting its danger to Western values.
Iran and the Bomb
May 12, 2014
Why are so many people with so many different perspectives -- from the Prime Minister of Israel, to the King of Saudi Arabia -- so worried that Iran might build a deliverable nuclear weapon? Or to put it even more simply: why do we have to stop Iran from getting the bomb?
The reason is painfully obvious: They might actually use it.
France has nuclear weapons. So does the United Kingdom. But nobody worries that they will use them. It’s not nuclear weapons that are the problem. It’s who has them and what they might do with them.
“We do not worship Iran, we worship Allah,” said Iranian Leader Ayatollah Khomeini in 1980. “I say let this land burn. I say let this land go up in smoke, provided Islam remains triumphant in the rest of the world.”
A militant nation that does not fear its own destruction is a sure threat to its enemies. And that threat is taken to a whole new level if the militant nation arms itself with nuclear weapons.
Who are the enemies of the Islamic Republic of Iran?
There are three:
The first enemy of Iran is the United States of America.
A common slogan chanted by Iranians at public rallies is “Death to America.” But it’s not just a slogan. Iran has been committing actual acts of war against what it calls “The Great Satan” for over three decades.
There was Iran’s seizure of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran in 1979, the 1983 bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut that killed 241 American servicemen, and the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia that killed another 19 Americans -- not to mention the War in Iraq, during which Iran did little to disguise the fact that it supplied anti-American militias with sophisticated, armor-piercing munitions responsible for the maiming and death of hundreds of U.S. soldiers.
A nuclear Iran could greatly expand its efforts to harm American interests, secure in the knowledge that its possession of nuclear weapons would make any military retaliation extremely unlikely.
And over time, and not much time, a nuclear Iran could develop the sort of intercontinental ballistic missiles that would bring American and European cities within range of its weapons.
A second enemy of Iran, which is a Shiite Muslim nation, are the Sunni Muslim nations of the Middle East. An Iranian bomb would instantly spark a nuclear arms race in the region as Arab states -- nearly all of which have majority Sunni populations -- move to defend themselves against aggression from Iran.
As these regimes and dictatorships race to become nuclear powers, the chances that nuclear weapons might be used, either directly or through terrorist proxies, grow exponentially.
And the third and ultimate enemy of Iran is Israel.
Only around a thousand miles separate the Islamic Republic from The Jewish State. Iranian leaders have called Israel “a rabid dog,” “a cancerous tumor that needs to be cut away,” and have called publicly and repeatedly for Israel’s “annihilation.”
They wage a continuous terrorist war against Israel through their proxies, Hezbollah and Hamas.
Former Iranian President Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani -- a man often described as a moderate and a pragmatist in the Western press -- articulated the Iranian position this way:
“If one day, the Islamic world is also equipped with weapons like those that Israel possesses now, then the imperialists’ strategy will reach a standstill because the use of even one nuclear bomb inside Israel will destroy everything. However, one bomb will only harm the Islamic world.” He’s right.
That’s why the civilized and sensible leaders of the world cannot allow Iran to develop nuclear weapons.
Because once the Iranians do, they will pose a severe threat to the security of America and Europe, spark a regional arms race that could see the world’s worst players acquire the world’s worst weapons, and threaten the Jews with extermination for the second time in a century.
Or to put it more simply: Iran cannot be allowed to get the bomb because they might actually use it.
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You sound like a Marxist, Socialist from the left.
Me calling it an accident was being generous.
The MSC Danit (IMO 9404649) is a 366-meter-long container ship built in 2009, operating under the Panama flag and managed by MSC. As a large container vessel frequently operating in major global trade lanes, it has extensive service history involving routes connecting Asia (including China) to Europe and America, often servicing major Chinese ports
The MSC Danit container ship was involved in a January 2021 incident where its anchor dragged and damaged a subsea pipeline, causing a major 25,000-gallon oil spill off Huntington Beach, California, in October 2021.
The Aponte family, owners of the world's largest shipping company MSC (Mediterranean Shipping Company), holds a massive, often hidden, influence on China-related trade and logistics. Based in Switzerland, they control about 20% of global container shipping and recently led a $19-$23 billion bid for 43 ports, which has faced scrutiny due to U.S.-China geopolitical tensions.
Reuters +4
Key Aspects of the Aponte Family in China Shipping
- Massive Logistics Footprint: Gianluigi Aponte and his family own MSC and Terminal Investment Ltd. (TiL), which operate a vast global network, including crucial shipping routes to and from Chinese ports.
- Strategic Port Acquisitions: The Aponte family-controlled MSC is the lead investor in a consortium attempting to acquire 43 port assets from Hong Kong-based CK Hutchison. This deal is viewed as a major shift, potentially making them the world's largest terminal operator.
- Geopolitical Complications: The acquisition of these ports—including sites in Panama—has caused tension with Beijing, which is wary of Western control over key logistics nodes. Despite this, Aponte family members, including Diego Aponte, have expressed confidence in resolving issues to mutual satisfaction.
- Private Empire: The Apontes run their company secretly, with the family controlling 100% of the empire and investing heavily in ships and port infrastructure, making them a key player in China's "Belt and Road" global trade landscape.
The Maritime Executive +7
Panama Flag.
krcrtv.com
SACRAMENTO — The owners of two large cargo ships have agreed to pay penalties after their anchors struck an underwater oil pipeline during a storm in 2021, an accident that later led to a crude oil spill along Southern California beaches.
California’s Department of Fish and Wildlife said the ships, the Beijing and the MSC Danit, dropped anchors during rough weather on Jan. 25, 2021, near the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach. Investigators say each anchor caught on a pipeline that carries oil from an offshore platform to land.
The anchors dragged across the pipeline for hours before breaking free. Officials say the ships did not report the problem at the time, even though state law requires large disabled vessels to alert the U.S. Coast Guard and report possible spill threats.
California settles case over ship anchors that damaged pipeline tied to 2021 spill
The owners of two large cargo ships have agreed to pay penalties after their anchors struck an underwater oil pipeline during a storm in 2021, an accident that
krcrtv.com
SACRAMENTO — The owners of two large cargo ships have agreed to pay penalties after their anchors struck an underwater oil pipeline during a storm in 2021, an accident that later led to a crude oil spill along Southern California beaches.
California’s Department of Fish and Wildlife said the ships, the Beijing and the MSC Danit, dropped anchors during rough weather on Jan. 25, 2021, near the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach. Investigators say each anchor caught on a pipeline that carries oil from an offshore platform to land.
The anchors dragged across the pipeline for hours before breaking free. Officials say the ships did not report the problem at the time, even though state law requires large disabled vessels to alert the U.S. Coast Guard and report possible spill threats.
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Just curious, since you are a member of the LGBQT+ community, how do you feel about the treatment of those within your community by the Iranian regime?
He actually sounds like a typical media mind controlled, spoon fed, talking points, lobotomized, Leftist bot.
Thirteen American service members have died in the ongoing war in Iran, with six confirmed killed in a drone strike in Kuwait and additional casualties reported from other incidents.
The way your socialist mind is running you think there has been 130,000 dead.
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This OP is another one of these whom I've described as "drive-by" posters from the Left. They show up on here occasionally, fully armed with the latest Leftist "talking points" that they spray all over the board just to get a rise out of the vast majority of clear thinking posters on here.
Then, after they get challenged with facts exposing their media mind controlled brain washing, they go silent & never respond to or refute the hard facts offered to counter their verbal terrorist attacks.
Then after getting blow back, they simply slink off and go away never to be heard from again, or not at least until the next media generated anti-Trump talking points are spoon fed to them.Then predictably, they crawl back out of their Left wing sink holes and show up on here to cause more mayhem by another "drive by" posting.
Then, after they get challenged with facts exposing their media mind controlled brain washing, they go silent & never respond to or refute the hard facts offered to counter their verbal terrorist attacks.
Then after getting blow back, they simply slink off and go away never to be heard from again, or not at least until the next media generated anti-Trump talking points are spoon fed to them.Then predictably, they crawl back out of their Left wing sink holes and show up on here to cause more mayhem by another "drive by" posting.
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All roads lead back to the CCP and we have Politicians in bed with them. There's a good reason things are happening below the border all the way to Iran. China is getting it's toys taken away and unfortunately Trump can't trust many of our politicians in the process. Or even some of our so called allies.
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It does. If you can’t understand that military guys die in training accidents, more than this type of non war, you are retarded
He's on the Left...they hate the Military, and para Military like ICE agents and police officers. The "MAGA fundraising" he derisively pans is actually aimed against continued support for full funding of ICE agents and police officers, which ALL Leftists of course oppose.
He fails to mention voluntary enlistments to America's armed forces are currently at all times highs due to the MAGA movement & true Patriots who Love the country.
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He's on the Left...they hate the Military, and para Military like ICE agents and police officers. The "MAGA fundraising" he derisively pans is actually aimed against continued support for full funding of ICE agents and police officers, which ALL Leftists of course oppose.
He fails to mention voluntary enlistments to America's armed forces are currently at all times highs due to the MAGA movement & true Patriots who Love the country.
I wouldn't call I.C.E Paramilitary.. Some of the far left nutjobs they have been dealing with act like Paramilitary.
I'll give you that...but Leftists in general hate soldiers, troops, police...whatever or whoever represents protection of the established Law of the land.
You are correct. My point was Paramilitary is what the left is calling them. Paramilitary also has different meanings in different part of the world. Militia that answers to far left leaders being one. ICE is a Federal Law Enforcement Agency carrying out law. Nothing more. The Democrats and some RINOS just don't like the law they are carrying out. Voters and Cheap Labor.
The Hamas Squad, Antifa, John Brown Club, and Socialist Rifle Club are the Democrats Paramilitary. They recruit people that should be in a straight jacket in a rubber room wearing a Hannibal Lector Mask.
Have we ever seen Leftists complaining about any of this fraud the way they complain about what we're spending on the Iran attack? Ever?
The thing that irritates me more than anything else besides the obvious fraud Nick exposed in that 40 minute clip is how Leftists who come on here and b-i-t-c-h and complain about what we're spending for our military action in Iran ostensibly to save the country, NEVER complain about what's being stolen from us like this! NEVER
Why are they less concerned about this blatant fraud, than they are about what it costs to pay the brave men and women who are sacrificing their very lives to keep us safe?
Ans: Because they hate this country, and they will support anything or anyone who either helps destroy us, weaken us, or bankrupt us. They don't care as long as America gets screwed.
I hope VP Vance and his fraud task force can root out these fraudsters and cut off their funding, because if you weren't outraged watching that video of the literally millions of dollars of your hard earned tax dollars obviously being stolen in broad daylight, then you probably don't think you're paying enough in taxes for these shysters to steal.
Absolutely outrageous!
Why are they less concerned about this blatant fraud, than they are about what it costs to pay the brave men and women who are sacrificing their very lives to keep us safe?
Ans: Because they hate this country, and they will support anything or anyone who either helps destroy us, weaken us, or bankrupt us. They don't care as long as America gets screwed.
I hope VP Vance and his fraud task force can root out these fraudsters and cut off their funding, because if you weren't outraged watching that video of the literally millions of dollars of your hard earned tax dollars obviously being stolen in broad daylight, then you probably don't think you're paying enough in taxes for these shysters to steal.
Absolutely outrageous!
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Oil spills of 3,000 gallons or barrels will be cleaned up by the ocean with little problem. In one year, 600,000 tons of oil seeps into the ocean every year. You need more info before spouting off.