Women

[deedoubleyou]

Lets bring some balls back into this place lol. Politics will always be a **** show and a major creator of stress and hate. Lets talk about babes. Here are some fun questions... Women feel free to chime in on any responses this may get lol.

1. You're in a bar and a gorgeous woman comes up and talks to you. You guys are really hitting it off and it really seems like she pretty into you. She has to use the bathroom though, and although you wanted to go get another beer, she asks you to hold her purse for her while she's gone, and wait right there for her. What do you do?

2. You're on a first date with a women, and conversation is going really well, and she seems like a really nice person, but then just out of nowhere she insults you and starts acting standoffish. Maybe even calls you an *******, or asks if you're a player, or makes fun of your clothes or hairstyle, and it just came out of nowhere, like poof, she turns on a dime. What do you do?

3. You have been on maybe 2 dates, 3 at the most with a reeeeealllly beautiful and cool woman, and she texts you one day and needs some help. She's moving across town and needs you to help her, and it just so happens that she wants you to do it on a day when you were wanting to go get some new shoes. What do you do?

4. You just saw the women of your dreams. If you could paint a picture of the most beautiful women with all the features you like the best all wrapped into one, you just saw her and she is sitting at a table with 3 of her friends not far from where you're sitting. You look over at her and she looks at you, and you make eye contact and she smiles at you with a nice sweet smile. However, she hasnt got up from her table for any reason thus far, and you have to leave soon. What do you do?

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Lets bring some balls back into this place lol. Politics will always be a **** show and a major creator of stress and hate. Lets talk about babes. Here are some fun questions... Women feel free to chime in on any responses this may get lol.

1. You're in a bar and a gorgeous woman comes up and talks to you. You guys are really hitting it off and it really seems like she pretty into you. She has to use the bathroom though, and although you wanted to go get another beer, she asks you to hold her purse for her while she's gone, and wait right there for her. What do you do?

2. You're on a first date with a women, and conversation is going really well, and she seems like a really nice person, but then just out of nowhere she insults you and starts acting standoffish. Maybe even calls you an *******, or asks if you're a player, or makes fun of your clothes or hairstyle, and it just came out of nowhere, like poof, she turns on a dime. What do you do?

3. You have been on maybe 2 dates, 3 at the most with a reeeeealllly beautiful and cool woman, and she texts you one day and needs some help. She's moving across town and needs you to help her, and it just so happens that she wants you to do it on a day when you were wanting to go get some new shoes. What do you do?

4. You just saw the women of your dreams. If you could paint a picture of the most beautiful women with all the features you like the best all wrapped into one, you just saw her and she is sitting at a table with 3 of her friends not far from where you're sitting. You look over at her and she looks at you, and you make eye contact and she smiles at you with a nice sweet smile. However, she hasnt got up from her table for any reason thus far, and you have to leave soon. What do you do?

Anyone chiming in on these or you just want a woman’s perspective? Boom is probably the closest we have to a chick from an emotional standpoint. Cunty is or has a *****, not sure. Definitely one of the two, though.

1. Leave her purse on the bar, don’t **** with it, you just met this broad.

2. Finish the date, try to get laid, don’t call crazy ***** back.

3. Scheduling a day to go buy some shoes? Are you the chick? Go help her move, expectation is she repays with a blowjob in the new joint.

4. Walked over and introduced myself 10 minutes ago.

 

[deedoubleyou]

1. I would only hold her purse and wait for her if she brought me back a beer or said please at the very minimum lol. Otherwise, fk no.

2. Laugh and change the subject. Or agree with her and turn it into a funny joke.

3. No favors lol. Not until she's my actual girlfriend anyway.

4. I'd be there right now lol. Hell I'd introduce myself to each one of her friends first and then when I got to her I would also ask for her number so I can call and ask her out.

 

[atlkvb]

I've been Married for 36 years so my dating skills are eroded or non existent but I still have Daughters in their late 20's and early 30's who aren't Married so I'll try to answer for them. (The type of guy I'd hope they meet)

1) Leave her stuff alone!!!! Matter of fact take the purse and sit in on the floor between your feet and tell her when she comes back you took the extra precaution to personally cover her sh*t while she was gone! She'd both respect and Love you for that!

2) Ask her if you've offended her in any way? Say if she wants you leave her alone just be honest and come right out and say that instead of trying to play drama Queen.

3) Tell her of course you'll be happy to help her...even ask her if she could use a couple of your friends to speed things up? Classy, respectful, and shows her how much you think of her to ask your friends who only know you to help her who they don't know but would do so because of you! Let's her know how much you really care about her, and how much respect your friends have for YOU!

4) Just before you're ready to leave...walk over to her table...greet her with a nice smile and pleasant Hello, slip her a note with your phone number and/or contact information on it (could even be a business card) tell her unfortunately you'd love to stay and find out more about what's behind the beautiful smile but promise her your undivided attention if she wants to reveal more by reaching out and getting back in touch with you. Class, respect, and intrigue...she'd call you back just to make sure you're for real!

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

Anyone chiming in on these or you just want a woman’s perspective? Boom is probably the closest we have to a chick from an emotional standpoint. Cunty is or has a *****, not sure. Definitely one of the two, though.

1. Leave her purse on the bar, don’t **** with it, you just met this broad.

2. Finish the date, try to get laid, don’t call crazy ***** back.

3. Scheduling a day to go buy some shoes? Are you the chick? Go help her move, expectation is she repays with a blowjob in the new joint.

4. Walked over and introduced myself 10 minutes ago.

Good to see I live in your head.

 

[Airport]

`1. Whack off in her purse
2. Whack off in her purse
3. Whack off in her dresser
4. Lick you eye brows with your tongue, great ice breaker.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Good to see I live in your head.

Yep, you sure do. You’re my mind’s eye for clinical inferiority complex.

 

[CpEER]

I feel like this thread is a beard.

 

[wvu2007]

I feel like this thread is a beard.

Quite frankly I am creeped out by it.

 

[atlkvb]

Quite frankly I am creeped out by it.

Now I know why at least 3 of my 4 Daughters have such dim prospects of ever meeting "Mr Right". My only Son-In-Law who did Marry one of my Daughters is Christian and we all know how much they're hated as a dating choice now-a-days. :scream:

 

[boomerwv]

`1. Whack off in her purse
2. Whack off in her purse
3. Whack off in her dresser
4. Lick you eye brows with your tongue, great ice breaker.

I really hope you don't have a license to use sedation...

 

[WVU82_rivals]

 

[WVU82_rivals]

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Make me a sandwich!

 

[deedoubleyou]

I made this thread for a friend of mine to prove a point. He's been through the ringer with women, and can never land any really good ones despite the fact that he's a good dude. He has literally no game. He is getting good at meeting women, but he lands in the friend zone every time with his nice guy, approval-seeking behavior. He's convinced there is too much competition for the gorgeous women that he "really" wants so he finds himself lowering his standards as well. I'm trying to show him how there's really not much real competition, and honestly, I've found that the reeeealllly super hot beautiful women who most men wont even approach are the easiest to get dates with. But they wont go for a guy who wants to please her right away and fawn all over her. Women need to chase, period, Its in their DNA. Even if they say they dont, they still crave having to chase and work for a man.

The 4 questions I listed are some of the most common ways women test men in the beginning of a potential relationship. Mostly early in the dating game, and often times they will test you the first time you meet them or go out with them. Most of the time the better of a catch they really are, the harder they will test you. Most guys fail these super bad and end up having no idea why she lost interest or friend zoned him. What they really want is for you to pass those tests with a positive and friendly attitude. They "want" you to be able to say no, and do it in a way that shows respect. It shows her you have self confidence. When she insults you or disagree's with something you say, it actually means shes interested, but she wants to see how you handle yourself. If you show any un-comfort, or try to seek her approval or anything like that, you failed. They really dont want a guy who's willing to drop everything and do a bunch of favors for her, or agree with everything they say --in fact not at all. Then she has nothing to work for. No mystery, just boring. Also the more safe a women feels with you, the more feminine she can be. If she seems to show some turn on a dime attitude out of the blue early on in the dating process, its usually not that she's crazy or anything actually quite the opposite. She testing you and just wants to see how you handle yourself and how confident you are. The jealousy test is another very common test most men fail.

atlkvb, you are obviously a good dude with a good heart, but most women would not see you as much of a challenge to them lol, and are more likely to put you in the friend zone.

Dvldog 4WVU's attitude would land more ladies.....

 

[atlkvb]

I made this thread for a friend of mine to prove a point. He's been through the ringer with women, and can never land any really good ones despite the fact that he's a good dude. He has literally no game. He is getting good at meeting women, but he lands in the friend zone every time with his nice guy, approval-seeking behavior. He's convinced there is too much competition for the gorgeous women that he "really" wants so he finds himself lowering his standards as well. I'm trying to show him how there's really not much real competition, and honestly, I've found that the reeeealllly super hot beautiful women who most men wont even approach are the easiest to get dates with. But they wont go for a guy who wants to please her right away and fawn all over her. Women need to chase, period, Its in their DNA. Even if they say they dont, they still crave having to chase and work for a man.

The 4 questions I listed are some of the most common ways women test men in the beginning of a potential relationship. Mostly early in the dating game, and often times they will test you the first time you meet them or go out with them. Most of the time the better of a catch they really are, the harder they will test you. Most guys fail these super bad and end up having no idea why she lost interest or friend zoned him. What they really want is for you to pass those tests with a positive and friendly attitude. They "want" you to be able to say no, and do it in a way that shows respect. It shows her you have self confidence. When she insults you or disagree's with something you say, it actually means shes interested, but she wants to see how you handle yourself. If you show any un-comfort, or try to seek her approval or anything like that, you failed. They really dont want a guy who's willing to drop everything and do a bunch of favors for her, or agree with everything they say --in fact not at all. Then she has nothing to work for. No mystery, just boring. Also the more safe a women feels with you, the more feminine she can be. If she seems to show some turn on a dime attitude out of the blue early on in the dating process, its usually not that she's crazy or anything actually quite the opposite. She testing you and just wants to see how you handle yourself and how confident you are. The jealousy test is another very common test most men fail.

atlkvb, you are obviously a good dude with a good heart, but most women would not see you as much of a challenge to them lol, and are more likely to put you in the friend zone.

Dvldog 4WVU's attitude would land more ladies.....

I said in my post I was trying to answer as I think my Daughters would have preferred (hopefully). Maybe that's why they aren't meeting any nice guys...most of the ones who creep them out act like @DvlDog4WVU !:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

I said in my post I was trying to answer as I think my Daughters would have preferred (hopefully). Maybe that's why they aren't meeting any nice guys...most of the ones who creep them out act like @DvlDog4WVU !:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

I don’t creep women out, I just don’t care if they say no. The slightly less attractive friend probably will.

 

[deedoubleyou]

I said in my post I was trying to answer as I think my Daughters would have preferred (hopefully). Maybe that's why they aren't meeting any nice guys...most of the ones who creep them out act like @DvlDog4WVU !:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

I believe that what women truly want is for these massive amounts of really good hearted nice guys out there, to step up their game and steer the wheel so-to-speak. They always say ******** get the good girls and to an extent thats true. But its not about them being an *******. Same with rich dudes. Its not the money. Its confidence. Women are drawn to it and the jerk/******* or even rich guy type type often times has it by nature. A lot of women are willing to deal with some assholeness to have a confident man. What they really want is a guy who can respect himself first, not be a pushover and let her get away with crappy behavior, but do it in a kind, respectful way and keep his emotions in check. If a women gets nasty with me, I dont show any negative emotions at all. It has taken practice, but now that I'm good at it, its amazing how fast it flips to her seeking my approval and chasing me when I didnt let her test get to me or fluster me in any way. Its to the point now that when a women tests me, my brain instantly see's this as confirmation that she likes me and I usually cant help but to smile.

 

[deedoubleyou]

One of the tests I see a lot with my friend when we are at a bar is when she says "wait right here for me, I'll be back". If you just met this girl, and you wait right there, chances are she wont be back or when she does you're already less attractive and mysterious to her. You can say "sure"...but dont wait lol. Go mingle. Maker her find you and approach you again. She will start to want to chase you even without realizing it. Its little things like that that make the difference.

 

[deedoubleyou]

I don’t creep women out, I just don’t care if they say no. The slightly less attractive friend probably will.

Not caring is attractive to women. Indifference is really the key.

 

[WVU82_rivals]

 

[atlkvb]

I don’t creep women out, I just don’t care if they say no. The slightly less attractive friend probably will.

You're not a Woman! [winking]

 

[atlkvb]

One of the tests I see a lot with my friend when we are at a bar is when she says "wait right here for me, I'll be back". If you just met this girl, and you wait right there, chances are she wont be back or when she does you're already less attractive and mysterious to her. You can say "sure"...but dont wait lol. Go mingle. Maker her find you and approach you again. She will start to want to chase you even without realizing it. Its little things like that that make the difference.

My Daughters tell me they'd just prefer a guy who respects their space (no touchy feely) respects their Femininity (no crude vulgar speech or behavior) and respects their values. The "I'm doing what I want, and to Hell with you" approach doesn't work for them. However as I said, they're Christian so we're talking about a whole different set of parameters here.

 

[Boomboom521]

Personally, I think dating to find the right one is a waste of time. Weighing the options between how bad I want to **** a chick and what I have to put up with to do so was always a little complex. Mostly because it depended on how long it has been. Despite the equation of “worthitness”, I cant fake it for anyone. Hot or not, hard up or not, if she’s nice...I react. If she’s throwing crazy at me, I walk. Nothing is more of a turn off for me than a hot chick who thinks she can act any way she wants.

My “game” was always that I’m not playing any games. And I never really minded the “friend zone”, because like Dog said I’m half chick anyway. Plus I always learn from friends, male or female. And I always did just fine in the poon department, mostly because I have the unique and bedazzling look of a unicorn. And mystique oozes from my motion like an undeniable lure dangling in currents of uncertainty.

I’d tell your buddy this: if wants a real love and partnership, treat getting laid as just that only. One day, when he least expects it, thunder will strike. And when that moment comes, he needs to turn all his strength towards making it happen. No games, no strategy, no fear, no ********.....stand on the line and give it all you got......heart on the field and all. Until then, try to get laid when you need to, and try to avoid getting caught in a trap of crazy, they set a lot of snares that are hard to see.

All that Bullsh1t said, my answers come in two forms.

If I’m trying to get laid:

1) meet the request with a joke attempt, “does holding your purse mean you marked me for later?” — some Bullsh1t to try to make her laugh, and also identify my displeasure of holding a purse.
2) seems like a crazy trap to me....id probably be turned off at that point, so I’d throw out humor to see if it was a test, “did the Prozac just wear off?”. If she laughs and comes back down to earth, I finish the date. If she’s glares or snaps, I pay the fvcking bill and go home to PornHub.
3) I always help cool people when they need it and ask, and I don’t shop for shoes with excitement.
4) “I couldn’t live with the regret of not talking to you before I left”

If thunder struck:

1) do it
2) ask wtf - and hope
3) do it
4) say the same thing

 

[atlkvb]

One of the tests I see a lot with my friend when we are at a bar is when she says "wait right here for me, I'll be back". If you just met this girl, and you wait right there, chances are she wont be back or when she does you're already less attractive and mysterious to her. You can say "sure"...but dont wait lol. Go mingle. Maker her find you and approach you again. She will start to want to chase you even without realizing it. Its little things like that that make the difference.

That can cut both ways ya know? So let's say you leave her to go "mingle" and wander back around later only to find her "mingling" too... this time with another Dude...who's an ex-football player, @ 6-4 250 and cut like Adonis! She simply looks at you standing there 6 inches shorter and 100 pounds lighter and she shrugs her shoulders...like "oh well".

You just slink away embarrassed and go sit in a corner all alone sipping on a Mint Julep.[smoke]

 

[atlkvb]

like Dog said I’m half chick anyway.

I always did just fine in the poon department, mostly because I have the unique and bedazzling look of a unicorn

I had to go pee after reading these! (from laughing so hard) [laughing]

 

[deedoubleyou]

That can cut both ways ya know? So let's say you leave her to go "mingle" and wander back around later only to find her "mingling" too... this time with another Dude...who's an ex-football player, @ 6-4 250 and cut like Adonis! She simply looks at you standing there 6 inches shorter and 100 pounds lighter and she shrugs her shoulders...like "oh well".

You just slink away embarrassed and go sit in a corner all alone sipping on a Mint Julep.[smoke]

If I saw her doing that it wouldn't matter even a little bit. I would honestly expect her to talk to other men, especially a guy who is on the upper scale of a 1-10 scale for most women.....especially if she is the kind of woman I really want because guys are always going to be trying to get with her....sh's smoking hot!!.. And from my experience I would end up being the one she likes over all of them. No doubt really from what I've seen. Because chances are they/he showed his jealousy when she tested him in the same way, or he is really just her friend anyway and she is jealousy testing me to gauge my inner strength. Either way, if she is truly interested in me, she will find me and talk to me. Its way more exciting for her to see me mingling and having fun and being abundant socially. If I am someone she's truly attracted to, what she will do is sneak up to me later and say "hey you where'd you go? and at that point be even MORE interested in me".

If you dont believe me, try it. It will work. I promise.

 

[deedoubleyou]

Personally, I think dating to find the right one is a waste of time. Weighing the options between how bad I want to **** a chick and what I have to put up with to do so was always a little complex. Mostly because it depended on how long it has been. Despite the equation of “worthitness”, I cant fake it for anyone. Hot or not, hard up or not, if she’s nice...I react. If she’s throwing crazy at me, I walk. Nothing is more of a turn off for me than a hot chick who thinks she can act any way she wants.

My “game” was always that I’m not playing any games. And I never really minded the “friend zone”, because like Dog said I’m half chick anyway. Plus I always learn from friends, male or female. And I always did just fine in the poon department, mostly because I have the unique and bedazzling look of a unicorn. And mystique oozes from my motion like an undeniable lure dangling in currents of uncertainty.

I’d tell your buddy this: if wants a real love and partnership, treat getting laid as just that only. One day, when he least expects it, thunder will strike. And when that moment comes, he needs to turn all his strength towards making it happen. No games, no strategy, no fear, no ********.....stand on the line and give it all you got......heart on the field and all. Until then, try to get laid when you need to, and try to avoid getting caught in a trap of crazy, they set a lot of snares that are hard to see.

All that Bullsh1t said, my answers come in two forms.

If I’m trying to get laid:

1) meet the request with a joke attempt, “does holding your purse mean you marked me for later?” — some Bullsh1t to try to make her laugh, and also identify my displeasure of holding a purse.
2) seems like a crazy trap to me....id probably be turned off at that point, so I’d throw out humor to see if it was a test, “did the Prozac just wear off?”. If she laughs and comes back down to earth, I finish the date. If she’s glares or snaps, I pay the fvcking bill and go home to PornHub.
3) I always help cool people when they need it and ask, and I don’t shop for shoes with excitement.
4) “I couldn’t live with the regret of not talking to you before I left”

If thunder struck:

1) do it
2) ask wtf - and hope
3) do it
4) say the same thing

The idea of game playing is not appealing if you look at it in a certain way. But think about this. Women, they want to be in their feminine and they want to find a man who can bring that out of them the most. They want to feel safe, secure and confident that her man is a leader type and will keep his composure even when and especially when she needs to be weak. When you are first meeting a women, she needs to test you to know in her mind that she can feel safe with you in a romantic way. She doesnt want a stage 5 clinger, and she doesnt want a guy who cant keep his emotions in check even when she is testing him. Men are stronger than women and if you want them to truly submit to you and deeply respect you as a person AND a lover, then you have to play their game or you'll never make it to the good stuff. Its proven. America is much different than a lot of countries and men have mostly taken the role of the female in relationships. "Game" is almost a safety requirement for women in certain countries.

 

[Boomboom521]

The idea of game playing is not appealing if you look at it in a certain way. But think about this. Women, they want to be in their feminine and they want to find a man who can bring that out of them the most. They want to feel safe, secure and confident that her man is a leader type and will keep his composure even when and especially when she needs to be weak. When you are first meeting a women, she needs to test you to know in her mind that she can feel safe with you in a romantic way. She doesnt want a stage 5 clinger, and she doesnt want a guy who cant keep his emotions in check even when she is testing him. Men are stronger than women and if you want them to truly submit to you and deeply respect you as a person AND a lover, then you have to play their game or you'll never make it to the good stuff. Its proven. America is much different than a lot of countries and men have mostly taken the role of the female in relationships. "Game" is almost a safety requirement for women in certain countries.

Thanks for the tip. My strong, sexy, happy wife is all I need. To each there own, people are different.

 

[deedoubleyou]

Thanks for the tip. My strong, sexy, happy wife is all I need. To each there own, people are different.

I had to learn game. I lived abroad a while and where I was at if you couldnt play the game, you were a freaking weenie and always alone. Women would roll their eyes at me at first lol. Girls here are easy to attract. Most of them have never met a guy who passes all their **** tests lol.

 

[atlkvb]

If you dont believe me, try it. It will work. I promise.

I'm Married, and you have a high opinion of yourself...especially compared to ex-jocks who are used to chics chasing them too! [winking]

 

[Boomboom521]

I had to learn game. I lived abroad a while and where I was at if you couldnt play the game, you were a freaking weenie and always alone. Women would roll their eyes at me at first lol. Girls here are easy to attract. Most of them have never met a guy who passes all their **** tests lol.

I had my fun. Not as much as a seasoned playa like you, but enough to have the memories I need to be content. My balls never fail me when at a crossroads. But I W’s always looking for the one. For me, nothing in my life is more satisfying then knowing i found her, and seeing our children. Like I said, to each their own.....trick is, knowing...truly knowing....who you are for real.

 

[deedoubleyou]

I'm Married, and you have a high opinion of yourself...especially compared to ex-jocks who are used to chics chasing them too! [winking]

Why would I have a low opinion of myself lol?

 

[atlkvb]

Why would I have a low opinion of myself lol?

I don't know you...but self inflated egos permeate this board. Carry on.

 

[deedoubleyou]

I had my fun. Not as much as a seasoned playa like you, but enough to have the memories I need to be content. My balls never fail me when at a crossroads. But I W’s always looking for the one. For me, nothing in my life is more satisfying then knowing i found her, and seeing our children. Like I said, to each their own.....trick is, knowing...truly knowing....who you are for real.

A playa lol. I guess it could be seen like that, but I really dont use game to get sex. I use it to try to find quality women. I was married once, and I did basically everything for my wife, and even gave up a lot of myself for her because...well thats why I thought I was supposed to do in a marriage. Not anymore. Game has helped me set a higher standard for myself. I'm pretty freaking picky lol. Very.

 

[atlkvb]

Women, they want to be in their feminine and they want to find a man who can bring that out of them the most. They want to feel safe, secure and confident that her man is a leader type and will keep his composure even when and especially when she needs to be weak

I'd buy that...as long you also respect her. The problem today is the Left has so "redefined" traditional roles of Men and Women (their natural inclinations) neither side feels comfortable being themselves.

 

[deedoubleyou]

I don't know you...but self inflated egos permeate this board. Carry on.

See the way I see it, it shows more ego to allow stuff like that to bother you, and do things like seeking approval from women, etc. The point is to basically not have ego. Confidence is not ego. Ego leads to bad emotions, confidence leads to self control.

 

[deedoubleyou]

I'd buy that...as long you also respect her. The problem today is the Left has so "redefined" traditional roles of Men and Women (their natural inclinations) neither side feels comfortable being themselves.

I love women and respect them. I used to be waaay too nice to them. I still am, but put myself in higher regard now. That was the difference I noticed when I was overseas. These women went for men who were th most confident themselves and didnt care what other people thought and that didnt show negative emotions--to the point that they wouldnt even partake in bad mouthing people. A true 'alpha' or whatever to me, is really a true gentleman. Not a big strong jock type. Its more of a mindset.

 

[atlkvb]

I love women and respect them. I used to be waaay too nice to them. I still am, but put myself in higher regard now. That was the difference I noticed when I was overseas. These women went for men who were th most confident themselves and didnt care what other people thought and that didnt show negative emotions--to the point that they wouldnt even partake in bad mouthing people. A true 'alpha' or whatever to me, is really a true gentleman. Not a big strong jock type. Its more of a mindset.

I think guys who respect women as themselves get the biggest play. No games, just respect them, honor them, be nice, but be a real Man and treat 'em like Ladies. What Girl doesn't want that?

 

[deedoubleyou]

I'd buy that...as long you also respect her. The problem today is the Left has so "redefined" traditional roles of Men and Women (their natural inclinations) neither side feels comfortable being themselves.

I agree that the left has done that. Its a cultural thing, and its damaging.

Thats why I like to put this stuff out there. I would like to see the good men stand up and be even better, especially the younger ones that really dont have the traditional mindset that the older folks grew up around. What people are seeing and learning has changed, but primal desire hasnt. Game will even work on the most feminist non-lesbian you can find. They have no idea that they are putty if a man games them. In fact if you ask a woman what they want, almost 100% of the time they will say everything that will lead you into their friend zone and never get out lol.

These young men need to take control of their lives, stand up straight, put their chin up and make some freakin eye contact for starters. Its amazing how even something as small as that is getting bad.