Wizards vs Celtics GII

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Wizards bench unit without Wall is awful. Stevens starting the 2nd with IT2/Horford was a great move.
 
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Really like this lineup with Crowder at the 4 by Boston. Bradley/Smart are top notch defenders.
 

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Stopped watching. :joy:

Tired. So I'm sleepingggg.

Hopefully wall has dynamite game
 

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Wall has 23 pt/ 9 assist at the half
Thomas for the Cs only has 2 assists - but damn that kid is everywhere
 

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John Wall is the best PG in the league IMO. Dude is a beast! I know that seems crazy with guys like Westbrook, Harden, CP3 etc in the league.. but I think I'd take Wall over any of them. Oh and I'm a KU fan BTW so no bias here.
 

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win or lose the series, these performances by wall in the playoffs has made a huge statement.
couldn't agree more

I'm nominally a Celtics fan (because husband is - never really chose a team) but gotta cheer the Wizards; Wall is a special kind of player
 
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John Wall is the best PG in the league IMO. Dude is a beast! I know that seems crazy with guys like Westbrook, Harden, CP3 etc in the league.. but I think I'd take Wall over any of them. Oh and I'm a KU fan BTW so no bias here.

He's awesome, going to make an all NBA team but he's not the best pg in the NBA. Westbrook, Harden, Curry are ahead of him. I think he's passed Cp3 though. He's the best traditional pg in the NBA imo though.
 
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Wall has been amazing this year all together. Definitely shown he's a top 3-4 pg and top 10-12 player in the NBA. Wizards desperately need to either add a legit 2nd star or improve their bench this off season.
 
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Wall is amazing!!!

I said mid season, he should be in discussion for best PG. Tap myself on the back. :p
 

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He's awesome, going to make an all NBA team but he's not the best pg in the NBA. Westbrook, Harden, Curry are ahead of him. I think he's passed Cp3 though. He's the best traditional pg in the NBA imo though.
Good point. Idk how I forgot about Steph. I should've rephrased that.. Wall is the best pure PG in the league, he can score with the best of them. But I think he's a pass first PG unlike Steph, Westbrook etc.
 

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Sideline Reporter: This game is very physical how is you're team handling it?
Brad Stevens: We're just "chipping" away. (smirk)
 

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He's awesome, going to make an all NBA team but he's not the best pg in the NBA. Westbrook, Harden, Curry are ahead of him. I think he's passed Cp3 though. He's the best traditional pg in the NBA imo though.

Westbrook is not better. He is way too out of control. Wall had more assist and less TO.

If Wall had three point shooters surrounding him like Harden has, he would lead in assist, and his efficiency to drive the ball will go up as well.

Curry better scorer, but he isn't a better PG. The guy has 6.5 apg to 3 TOpg. And surrounded by 3 All-star player....

Wall is too underrated. His bench is complete ****. His starting rotation ain't that great either.
 
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Westbrook is not better. He is way too out of control. Wall had more assist and less TO.

If Wall had three point shooters surrounding him like Harden has, he would lead in assist, and his efficiency to drive the ball will go up as well.

Curry better scorer, but he isn't a better PG. The guy has 6.5 apg to 3 TOpg. And surrounded by 3 All-star player....

Wall is too underrated. His bench is complete ****. His starting rotation ain't that great either.

Westbrook is better, he's a top 3-5 player in the NBA according to pretty much anyone. Yea he turns the ball over, he also had the highest usage % in the NBA. He's ahead of Wall in every advanced metric and is most likely winning the MVP. Not a diss at Wall as I said I think he's the best traditional pg in the NBA but Russ/Harden are top 5 players in the league. But we can agree to disagree, no problem.
 

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Wall is about all this team really has, isn't it?
amazing they've gotten this far
 

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Westbrook is better, he's a top 3-5 player in the NBA according to pretty much anyone. Yea he turns the ball over, he also had the highest usage % in the NBA. He's ahead of Wall in every advanced metric and is most likely winning the MVP. Not a diss at Wall as I said I think he's the best traditional pg in the NBA but Russ/Harden are top 5 players in the league.

of course he has better "metrics". That's because he benefits from rebounding. Instead of letting the bigs get it and be ready to get it at half court to put pressure on defense.

That's why their numbers are stupid. Doing stuff that doesn't help you win doesn't make you better.

Wall tries to initiate offense as quickly as possible. If he can get it around 15 - 18 ft, he will get the rebound and push. Westbrook will go into paint and take it away from bigs. Practically meaningless stat boost.
 
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of course he has better "metrics". That's because he benefits from rebounding. Instead of letting the bigs get it and be ready to get it at half court to put pressure on defense.

That's why their numbers are stupid. Doing stuff that doesn't help you win doesn't make you better.

Wall tries to initiate offense as quickly as possible. If he can get it around 15 - 18 ft, he will get the rebound and push. Westbrook will go into paint and take it away from bigs. Practically meaningless stat boost.

Yea we can agree to disagree on this one.
 

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Celtics with all the energy and momentum now

Wall is tired

edit: okay, maybe not so much
 
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It's amazing how often Thomas gets right to the rim and when he gets there, there's nobody even at the rim challenging him.