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[engie]

What OM coach is "safe" assuming Freeze survives -- which is probably assuming alot?

I honestly thought Werner was the safest of the bunch. Name nowhere near the NOA -- didn't recruit because of the waiver allowing Barney to do it.

OM Staff remaining:
Freeze - mentioned 10x initial NOA
Luke - mentioned 3x initial NOA
Nix - mentioned 7x initial NOA
Heard - CLEAR in intial NOA
Harris - mentioned 31x initial NOA

Batoon - CLEAR in initial NOA but widely believed on hot seat for job performance
Jones - CLEAR in initial NOA
Kiffin - mentioned 13x initial NOA

 

[57stratdawg]

There just doesn't seem to be a path where Freeze is retained. When OM surprisingly renewed Bjork's contract, it told me they were protecting him. I cannot imagine both of them surviving; Freeze looks like the odd man out.

Theyre in a world of ****.

 

[engie]

To me, contract renewal means nothing at all in a "for cause" situation

 

[ShrubDog]

It is amazing that a MSU Scout writer is responsible for the destruction of a SEC football program.

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[aTotal360]

I propose a bronze bust of Rosebowl for the visiting team's locker room. Every two years it will be worth it.

 

[Shamoan]

not a coach, but the fact that bjork is still employed is hilarious. this is going to get really good.

 

[CochiseCowbell]

Not a bust, but a full sized statue. Gotta showcase the ink.

 

[aTotal360]

I was wanting a bust so when they walked out, they would have the honor of touching his hair. They love it.

 

[Dawgzilla]

Based on the original NOA, I thought Freeze might get a suspension of a few games. Depending on what's in the amended/second NOA, he could be gone.

If Freeze is retained, I think the NCAA should require him to retake the compliance classes that first-year coaches have to take. They required Stallings to do it back in the 90s, and he decided to just resign instead.

 

[patdog]

My guess is neither the Werner or Wommack are related to the NCAA investigation. I think there's a decent chance Freeze gets a show cause, and if that's the case, none of the assistants are safe.

 

[57stratdawg]

I agree, but I would think the OM brass wouldn't go through that exercise with 'for cause' activity on the horizon. He got his extension in October 2016; a lot of these NCAA interviews with players happened in the Spring.

Maybe OM really is that in-the-dark and things are changing that quickly for them. After all, i don't believe Farrar was mentioned in the first NOA and he appears to be the first to go down.

 

[Drebin]

My guess is neither the Werner or Wommack are related to the NCAA investigation. I think there's a decent chance Freeze gets a show cause, and if that's the case, none of the assistants are safe.

I can't speculate on Wommack.

As far as Werner goes, something bad had to happen very recently. Their offense wasn't the problem for the most part last year, and he has been recruiting recently, too. Just looking at the optics, the timing of the firing is more incriminating than the firing itself. I have no doubt that both of these firings were NCAA-related.

If a coach is fired for performance, then you have to look at the performance and see which areas of the team struggled and who coached those areas.

 

[patdog]

Read an article from Red Cup Rebellion about an hour ago that referenced that the Spirit was reporting that Werner and Luke were the only 2 locks to be retained about a week ago. So yeah, something bad and unexpected must have happened in the last few days for him to be leaving now.

 

[missouridawg]

I can't speculate on Wommack.

As far as Werner goes, something bad had to happen very recently. Their offense wasn't the problem for the most part last year, and he has been recruiting recently, too. Just looking at the optics, the timing of the firing is more incriminating than the firing itself. I have no doubt that both of these firings were NCAA-related.

If a coach is fired for performance, then you have to look at the performance and see which areas of the team struggled and who coached those areas.

I agree that I think Werner is fired because of the NCAA stuff... but I'll play devils advocate.

werner sucks at recruiting... but is now going to have to revruit because Barneys reinstatement hit a snag. And this became evident on the Myles Brennan visit. Therefore, Werner was fired because if performance issues.... related to recruiting (not on the field stuff).

Yancy, Neal, Ben, David... you're welcome for the talking point.

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

Yancy, Neal, Ben, David - they need all the help they can get right now with talking points

 

[57stratdawg]

Werner was provided the waiver to avoid recruiting after his wife passed away, right? Seems like a lawsuit waiting to happen if he was fired over an inability to recruit.

Why wouldn't they just go get another guy to replace Farrar?

 

[dawgstudent]

I heard today that Werner didn't have to recruit and that's why Farrar had an on field position. Once Farrar was going to be let go - Werner's usefulness to the staff was lessened.

 

[dawgstudent]

B/c there's no replacing Barney Farrar.

 

[patdog]

Don't buy that for a second. As others have pointed out, they could just move someone else into Barney's "designated recruiter for the OC" position.

 

[Drebin]

Don't buy that for a second. As others have pointed out, they could just move someone else into Barney's "designated recruiter for the OC" position.

Or demanded that he gets back out on the road himself. It's not a valid reason for firing your offensive coordinator otherwise.

They could have told him they need him recruiting and let him resign if he couldn't do it. They didn't do that - they fired him. I just don't buy that they let him go because he was no longer useful to the staff with Farrar gone.