********. They both had substially more plays. And BOTH were much more ready to take the physical punishment Power 5 football dishes out. Or are you now going to say that Wimsatt can to bulk up to 225 by Week 6. Brian Cushing might think you can, but I don't.
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********. They both had substially more plays. And BOTH were much more ready to take the physical punishment Power 5 football dishes out. Or are you now going to say that Wimsatt can to bulk up to 225 by Week 6. Brian Cushing might think you can, but I don't.
And lets not forget how bad Trevor's supporting cast was. Between offense and defense I bet Clemson didn't have more than 15 future 1st and 2nd round draft picks playing. But Dabo didn't care. He threw him to the wolves. So what if he had a full training camp to get acclimated and learn the offense.
That being said, if our guy earns it, play him. I'm rooting that he does.
That being said, if our guy earns it, play him. I'm rooting that he does.
I'll say it again. This kid is not a true freshman. He's a high school senior who I'm guessing is 17 years old. Do we really want to put him in against teams like Wisconsin and Penn St. Will he take a few garbage time snaps somewhere along the way? Maybe. But to think that he'll step right in over the next six weeks is foolish.
At this point, it's getting hard to tell who's serious and who's trolling.
You can't compare Wimsatt to any other true freshman QB. Period.
In comparison to every other true freshman quarterback this year or last year, they all had an extra season of HS ball and a complete college pre-season worth of practices. Wimsatt has had none of that.
If you want to compare Wimsatt to another QB, you need to find one who a) left HS early, b) arrived after the first game, and c) couldn't practice in pads until after the 2nd game.
This is a brand new scenario, and can't be compared to standard true freshman QBs.
You can't compare Wimsatt to any other true freshman QB. Period.
In comparison to every other true freshman quarterback this year or last year, they all had an extra season of HS ball and a complete college pre-season worth of practices. Wimsatt has had none of that.
If you want to compare Wimsatt to another QB, you need to find one who a) left HS early, b) arrived after the first game, and c) couldn't practice in pads until after the 2nd game.
This is a brand new scenario, and can't be compared to standard true freshman QBs.
The only person you can compare him to is that kid at Ohio State that did the same thing, and he might've joined before fall camp. Gavin joined after the season started.
Gavin and new teammates Article—
Yes, Quinn Ewers enrolled at the start of August, and first suited up to practice on August 16th. He wasn't on the Week 1 depth chart.
At the time, when asked about whether Ewers could play at all this season, Day said only “anything could happen” but “we’re a long way away from that when it comes to Quinn."
That's really the only close comparison, and even then he had a partial preseason of practice time.
It's true that commits finishing HS and getting to college a year early is a new frontier. Literally this year.
So of course there will be no comparisons we can draw from. That is why some of us have compared these early enrollees to true freshman from previous years, because it is the closest comparison we have.
But do we think that because it has never happened before it will not happen going forward? I don't, it's only a matter of time before one of these kids breaks the ice.
So of course there will be no comparisons we can draw from. That is why some of us have compared these early enrollees to true freshman from previous years, because it is the closest comparison we have.
But do we think that because it has never happened before it will not happen going forward? I don't, it's only a matter of time before one of these kids breaks the ice.
While it may be the "closest comparison" we have, that doesn't mean it's in any way close.
Closer comparisons would be trying to compare with basketball guys like Jaden Jones, who left HS half a year early and joined a collegiate basketball team mid-year. But even then, you're talking about a much smaller roster that allows backups to see a lot more more practice time and game reps with/against the "ones" than a football roster that has to focus its during-the-season reps on the depth chart guys.
That is really not true, the first two or three weeks everyone gets reps. Once you get passed the second scrimmage and get into game prep, that is when the 1’s and 2’s get most of the reps.
No comparison is ever dead on.
So yeah I acknowledge that most of these comparisons got full summer camps, but some of these comparisons started out of the gate, or played fairly significant snaps throughout the season.
But on the flip side, no one is saying Wimsatt may start games this year, I for one don't think he will play meaningful minutes.
So there are differences in these comparison's no matter the perspective.
My question has been, could he get some plays sprinkled in? Perhaps late game with the 2nd unit.
Interestingly some of the guys who have argued the most against the idea of him playing have also expressed that he could play "if he is ready". Which of course was always a part of the equation.
My guess is that the expectation is that he'll see some time very late in the year at the end of games that are not close, so that he can get some live game reps under his belt heading into a full offseason competition for the starting spot being vacated by Vedral.
I don't think he's legitimately "in the mix" as part of the rotation right now to even get garbage time minutes ahead of Snyder or Simon. If he progresses very quickly, that might change by the end of the season - but I don't think he'll take a meaningful snap this year unless injuries pile up rapidly and he has to be thrown to the wolves.
He simply got here too late to get his feet underneath him enough to do more than that.