Willis played no D

Stonewall12

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It's about effort. Biscoe was trying to defend a guy 6" taller and more athletic, Willis' effort and concentration was clearly not where it should have been. Big difference.
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Briscoe was getting killed. Put him on the bench
 

UK90

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When monk is the only threat to shoot you need him on the floor.

Good lord, you make it sound like this team is having trouble scoring.

Hate to break it to ya, buddy, but the facts totally disagree with you. We're friggin averaging 95 points per game, this is the highest scoring UK team I can remember. We've had no problem getting buckets with or without Willis. This team has not needed more offense, instead it has needed more DEFENSE.

And, again, I'd point out that Willis is only a 36 percent three point shooter, which is hardly the kind of outside shooting that this team desperately "needs" on the floor.
 
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kybassfan

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Good lord, you make it sound like this team is having trouble scoring.

Hate to break it to ya, buddy, but the facts totally disagree with you. We're friggin averaging around 95 points per game, this is like the highest scoring UK team I can ever remember. We've had no problem getting buckets with our without Willis. This team has not needed more offense, instead it's needed more DEFENSE.

And, again, I'd point out that Willis is only a 36 percent three point shooter, which is hardly the kind of outside shooting that this team desperately "needs" on the floor.

Just to add to that comment, our scoring has been relatively insensitive to competition with 90 plus against our two toughest opponents.
 
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Goingfor9

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Willis is in another world. He may hit some big shots but he gonna give up big pts too
 

kyjeff1

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Briscoe was getting killed. Put him on the bench
So then we Cal puts Willis on him and Jackson scores at will, you will want Willis sent to the bench.

Then Cal puts Wenyen on him, Jackson will still score at will, then you will want him sent to the bench.

Until Wenyen and Willis can defend a guy like Jackson, Cal has no choice but to put his best defender on guys like that. The problem is, Briscoe has disadvantages guarding out of position. But he's still a better option than the other 2 that SHOULD be guarding guys like Jackson.

You seem like you're not willing to let guys get better, you want it RIGHT F'ING NOW!

You venting and saying Briscoe should just ride the pine tells me you have no clue and have never played the game.

You're that loud majority of our fan base that gets us a bad reputation. Congrats for that. Nice work.
 

Fresh Start

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Jackson used Briscoe like a diaper. Briscoe, obviously is also very limited offensively against good teams. It is time for Mulder to eat some of his minutes. Pretty soon Monk will be seeing a box and one, & UK will need an outside shooter. Willis is to soft defensively & Gabriel gets pushed around inside. I believe Mulder needs to play the 3 in order for this team to reach its potential.

Box and 1's don't work at that level. Hell, it doesn't work in high school.
 

Fresh Start

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When monk is the only threat to shoot you need him on the floor. I never seen the hate for a player more than Willis. If he would be able to play for 10 mins without getting jerked his % would be up.

But please hate away

You think Willis gets more hate than Briscoe? You take care of that all by yourself
 

Stonewall12

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So then we Cal puts Willis on him and Jackson scores at will, you will want Willis sent to the bench.

Then Cal puts Wenyen on him, Jackson will still score at will, then you will want him sent to the bench.

Until Wenyen and Willis can defend a guy like Jackson, Cal has no choice but to put his best defender on guys like that. The problem is, Briscoe has disadvantages guarding out of position. But he's still a better option than the other 2 that SHOULD be guarding guys like Jackson.

You seem like you're not willing to let guys get better, you want it RIGHT F'ING NOW!

You venting and saying Briscoe should just ride the pine tells me you have no clue and have never played the game.

You're that loud majority of our fan base that gets us a bad reputation. Congrats for that. Nice work.
No you are wrong

You and the rest of these idiots on this board are the reason I can't stand UK fans. Y'all think you know and you don't have a clue. You are all jokes.
 

Blueaz

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So then we Cal puts Willis on him and Jackson scores at will, you will want Willis sent to the bench.

Then Cal puts Wenyen on him, Jackson will still score at will, then you will want him sent to the bench.

Until Wenyen and Willis can defend a guy like Jackson, Cal has no choice but to put his best defender on guys like that. The problem is, Briscoe has disadvantages guarding out of position. But he's still a better option than the other 2 that SHOULD be guarding guys like Jackson.

You seem like you're not willing to let guys get better, you want it RIGHT F'ING NOW!

You venting and saying Briscoe should just ride the pine tells me you have no clue and have never played the game.

You're that loud majority of our fan base that gets us a bad reputation. Congrats for that. Nice work.
 
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kyjeff1

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No you are wrong

You and the rest of these idiots on this board are the reason I can't stand UK fans. Y'all think you know and you don't have a clue. You are all jokes.
You might want to stop sniffing blow and getting so wound up.
Yup, everyone else, including Cal, a HOF coach, is wrong…… YOU are the only one that is right.
Gotchya.
 

kybassfan

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No you are wrong

You and the rest of these idiots on this board are the reason I can't stand UK fans. Y'all think you know and you don't have a clue. You are all jokes.

You just out yourself there? If we're y'all, then who hell are you?
 

kennywalker34

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A couple comments about the defense.
1. We are running as we should be so that of course equals more possessions for the opponents.

2. Could be the freedom of movement rules is making it harder to play defense.
Of course I wanna see our defense improve. I believe it will. But I doubt we will ever be holding down good teams to 60 points. Could be those days are gone for good with the new rules.

We are gonna have to just put up lots of points as we have been.
I enjoy games where we put up 100 plus and win. I doubt we score a 100 say from the sweet 16 game on. But I believe we will score 80-90 points from sweet 16 on. I am confident the defense will improve.
Love this team and think they have as good a shot as anyone to cut down the nets.
 

UK90

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You and the rest of these idiots on this board are the reason I can't stand UK fans. Y'all think you know and you don't have a clue. You are all jokes.

The fact that you refer to UK fans as "y'all" and something different from yourself (that you "can't stand") is quite telling. I'd previously noticed that Derek Willis, the player, seems to be what you're interested in FAR more than UK, the team. This just further confirms what I already suspected about you.

And I also think it's funny that you accuse UK fans of being "idiots" when you're the one who consistently refuses to consider actual facts, evidence and statistics, not us.

If you're a member of Willis' family, or a friend, or have some similar connection, then your bias is understandable. But you'd be better served just being honest and admitting that bias than continuing to post in the dumb manner you've been doing.
 
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qwesley

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I know it is not his personality but Willis really needs to show a little energy and emotion. Cal likes alphas, that is not going to change. I have been a huge proponent of his but he has been a huge disappointment this year. That lack of energy is why he plays with no bend on either end.
 

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Briscoe got used like a tampon against NC & Willis is too weak to play down low defensively. If those players sat the bench more in the NC game, it wouldn't have been close.
 

TheySoSensitive

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I know it is not his personality but Willis really needs to show a little energy and emotion. Cal likes alphas, that is not going to change. I have been a huge proponent of his but he has been a huge disappointment this year. That lack of energy is why he plays with no bend on either end.


Incredibly frustrating given his natural athletic ability and size.

Tayshaun Prince turned into one of the best defenders in the NBA with a natural skillset that mirror's Willis. No excuse for him not to be a better defender.
 

kybassfan

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Thank you

I don't think you answered the question. Since we're 'y'all', who the hell are you? A Tard nervous about the *** kicking your about to take in the chicken house? NC fan pissed about kicking you just took after all the cheating?

Since you admit to not being one of us, just what are you?
 

king of cali

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Briscoe did not do much.
Willis needs to be on the floor we need his shooting. Monk is not going to be super man every big game we play.

Bristle had a solid all around game with 10, 7, and 4. He struggled on defense with Jackson being in the zone, but some of those were tough shots. Give Jackson credit for making them.

Lol at the notion that a team averaging 95 a game "needs" a marginal player on the floor to make the offense better.
 
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I think a lot of you would have hated Rupp's teams if you hammer a team this much after they just beat one of the best offensive teams in the country. When you have two teams that play this style, defense is going to get overlooked...It just is. We all expected a high-scoring, up-and-down affair. We got what we expected, and yet are somehow surprised?

I've watched the game 3 times. There were defensive breakdowns, to be sure, but this game was more about guys making plays in spite of defense. Lot of shots going down with hands in faces. Lots of plays made where guys are being bodied up and well-defended, and they just make the shot. We did it just as much as they did. Was it a perfect defensive effort? Absolutely not...But it wasn't nearly as bad as many of you make it seem. How many times during the game did you just shake your head when a guy made a shot and say, "How in the hell did that go in?" I loved it.
 

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I think a lot of you would have hated Rupp's teams if you hammer a team this much after they just beat one of the best offensive teams in the country. When you have two teams that play this style, defense is going to get overlooked...It just is. We all expected a high-scoring, up-and-down affair. We got what we expected, and yet are somehow surprised?

I've watched the game 3 times. There were defensive breakdowns, to be sure, but this game was more about guys making plays in spite of defense. Lot of shots going down with hands in faces. Lots of plays made where guys are being bodied up and well-defended, and they just make the shot. We did it just as much as they did. Was it a perfect defensive effort? Absolutely not...But it wasn't nearly as bad as many of you make it seem. How many times during the game did you just shake your head when a guy made a shot and say, "How in the hell did that go in?" I loved it.
Right on!
 

Ben101er

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After re-watching the game twice I can assure you Gabriel played even less and nearly cost us the game twice late with the missed alley-op and he really sucked on a block out and allowed a tap out for an offensive rebound with one minute left in the game. Somebody has to play at PF.

This position has been our biggest weakness, all year. One of these guys is going to have to step up and play some kind of defense if we are going to go deep into the tournament.
 

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The people posting that don't appreciate Briscoe I just don't know what games you are watching. Briscoe is arguably the best defender on the team and usually draws the toughest assignment from the opponent. He is extremely physical without fouling and even drawing offensive fouls. On top of that, he rebounds well for his position and makes great decisions on the break. Even though he is not a good outside shooter, he has one of the highest FG% on the team because of his good shot selection. In summary, Briscoe is OUTSTANDING. Looks like Cal agrees with me since he plays 35+ minutes per game.
 

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Willis is what he is, a spot up 3 point shooter or pick and popper. He is not a good defender and below average rebounder. Hell if he gets a pass and is not open for a 3 you would think he was playing hot potato. Almost never makes a move toward basket or try to feed post, just get rid of ball back out top. I would try giving his minutes to Mulder and Jones and see what happens. Mulder is not a good defender either but he is quicker and more suited to playing the 3 than Willis and better rebounder. And Jones at least tries to defend and rebound, Willis just stands and watches shots most of the time. Been waiting for DW to show some consistency for 3+ years and besides 6-8 game run last year in early conference play we are getting more Skal quality of play.
I agree!
 
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Just playing around with some stats from Synergy here's the points per possession stats for each player on defense

UK Total = 0.785

Issac Humphries = .522 (prob small sample issue as he's only involved on d for 2.3% of the total possessions). Last season he was a whopping .946 on D
Bam = .630
Mulder = .654 (again small sample and he was pretty bad last season). Last season he gave up 1.00. 20 possessions 20 points.
Monk = .681
Willis = .687 (last season he was .940 on defense)
Hawkins = .759
Briscoe = .765 (this number was .630 before the UNC game). He was at .711 last season second best behind Alex.
Fox = .802
Wenyen = .846

Guys who have had way too small of a sample to get anything out of lol
Brad = .800
SKJ = .800
Tai = 1.000
Johnny David = 2.000

For all the talk about Willis, it's Wenyen that's been the real weak link on defense.
 
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Briscoe did not do much.
Willis needs to be on the floor we need his shooting. Monk is not going to be super man every big game we play.

Are you seriously stating this and trying to get your point across??? You've got to be kidding me.

1 for 1 from three, 3 offensive, 4 defensive rebounds, 4 assists, 1 turnover, 10 points, 1 block, 4 of 6 from the field.... is this not doing much? How are his averages this season???

Shooting (FOR THE SEASON)

54.5% from the field, 66.7% for FT's, 27.8% from 3, third in total points on the team and Briscoe did not do much? did you watch any games last season? Forget last season. The kid has to be shooting 70% from the field minus his 3 point attempts (The three point attempts seems to be ready to crack 30%) Geez what nerve....jmuo
 
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Stonewall12

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Are you seriously stating this and trying to get your point across??? You've got to be kidding me.

1 for 1 from three, 3 offensive, 4 defensive rebounds, 4 assists, 1 turnover, 10 points, 1 block, 4 of 6 from the field.... is this not doing much? How are his averages this season???

Shooting (FOR THE SEASON)

54.5% from the field, 66.7% for FT's, 27.8% from 3, third in total points on the team and Briscoe did not do much? did you watch any games last season? Forget last season. The kid has to be shooting 70% from the field minus his 3 point attempts (The three point attempts seems to be ready to crack 30%) Geez what nerve....jmuo
He gave up 34

But geez!!!!!1!11!1!-
 

UK90

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Are you seriously stating this and trying to get your point across??? You've got to be kidding me.

1 for 1 from three, 3 offensive, 4 defensive rebounds, 4 assists, 1 turnover, 10 points, 1 block, 4 of 6 from the field.... is this not doing much? How are his averages this season???

Shooting (FOR THE SEASON)

54.5% from the field, 66.7% for FT's, 27.8% from 3, third in total points on the team and Briscoe did not do much? did you watch any games last season? Forget last season. The kid has to be shooting 70% from the field minus his 3 point attempts (The three point attempts seems to be ready to crack 30%) Geez what nerve....jmuo

You might consider the source you're responding to. That guy's not a true UK fan (as he essentially admitted in his last post), and has no interest in seeing Briscoe or any UK player other than Willis do well.
 

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You might consider the source you're responding to. That guy's not a true UK fan (as he essentially admitted in his last post), and has no interest in seeing Briscoe or any UK player other than Willis do well.

Oh, I'm not responding to that. If you look at my other post in this thread you will see what I think about the OP and his post. My post was out of genuine concern and question for others that may answer or respond. (I didn't want to start another Willis thread. Seems every thread I start I also finish. :) Usually with the same post.)