Willis next year.

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he's due for something...

dude has too much talent, size, length, athleticism, etc to not be a baller...he has a nice stroke...

would like to see him become some sort of juice of the bench...be that shooter that comes in knocks down some shots, gets the squad in a nice rhythm and the crowd roaring...
 
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Willis will never start for Kentucky, Mark it down. He is just another John Hood. He will get a few minutes here and there.
 

3rex

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I hope so. Can't help but feel like he got the short end of the stick this season.

But I'm not sure our player development is all that it's cracked up to be.

The Harrison twins didn't get better. Dakari regressed.

And WCS, for all his great athletic ability somehow spends 3 YEARS here & will be heading to the NBA without even 1 "go to" offensive move. I don't see how that's possible & can't help but think our program either failed that kid, or at the very least didn't prepare him for the NBA, which is what we apparently promise.
 
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If he works hard enough he'll put himself in the position to compete for playing time. It's on him though, he's got to want to put in the work to play.
 

ukfan041

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Willis is talented, but like others have said, he will likely never play meaningful minutes here!
 

CatDaddy4daWin

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Originally posted by 3rex:
I hope so. Can't help but feel like he got the short end of the stick this season.

But I'm not sure our player development is all that it's cracked up to be.

The Harrison twins didn't get better. Dakari regressed.

And WCS, for all his great athletic ability somehow spends 3 YEARS here & will be heading to the NBA without even 1 "go to" offensive move. I don't see how that's possible & can't help but think our program either failed that kid, or at the very least didn't prepare him for the NBA, which is what we apparently promise.
Are you really this stupid? Andrew is leaps and bounds better than any point last year. Aaron just can't shoot, not sure coaching is gonna make him a better shooter. You're takes on here are so terrible you have got to be a UL troll.

Willie wasn't even on anyone's radar before he got here. Now he's gonna be a lottery pick. Yeah, just shut up.
 

Tannerdad

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You say Andrew Harrison did not get better? Are you on crack? I know you hate Cal but that is just stupid talk.

Some players regress a little their 2nd year. Some don't.
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Originally posted by CatDaddy4daWin:

Originally posted by 3rex:
I hope so. Can't help but feel like he got the short end of the stick this season.

But I'm not sure our player development is all that it's cracked up to be.

The Harrison twins didn't get better. Dakari regressed.

And WCS, for all his great athletic ability somehow spends 3 YEARS here & will be heading to the NBA without even 1 "go to" offensive move. I don't see how that's possible & can't help but think our program either failed that kid, or at the very least didn't prepare him for the NBA, which is what we apparently promise.
Are you really this stupid? Andrew is leaps and bounds better than any point last year. Aaron just can't shoot, not sure coaching is gonna make him a better shooter. You're takes on here are so terrible you have got to be a UL troll.

Willie wasn't even on anyone's radar before he got here. Now he's gonna be a lottery pick. Yeah, just shut up.
Neither of them can really shoot, Aaron has good form though and is streaky. If either could shoot they'd be a first round lock.
 

Randy Bob

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Depends on who Ky lands this yr, just have to wait and see, the guy can shoot the 3 plus good size..
 

3rex

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So I guess that's why Andrews draft skyrocketed this season.

Not sure the NBA agrees with you guys.

But, why no response to why WCS can be in this program for 3 years & have learned no offensive moves?
 

Dallas-Wild

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Originally posted by 3rex:
So I guess that's why Andrews draft skyrocketed this season.

Not sure the NBA agrees with you guys.

But, why no response to why WCS can be in this program for 3 years & have learned no offensive moves?
News flash...not all make it to the NBA.

To say Andrew didn't improve this year is beyond stupid.

As far as WCS some players are what they are...I can ask you, why didn't Dennis Rodman improve his offensive game in the NBA?
 

Aike

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Good to see 3rex getting cranked back up again. Refreshing.

Willie came in a top 40 recruit and will leave a lottery pick. He was taught to refine his most marketable skill - defense. He's better offensively than he was when he got here but he started out incredibly raw. I would say that his overall growth as a player has been remarkable.
 

3rex

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In the NBA it's pretty much up to you. Practice time is much more limited & focused on preparing for the next opponent.

College is more about player development, with coaches working with players to develop their specific skills.

There is also a difference between a player already in the league & a player preparing for his dream.
 

Stenchymouse

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Originally posted by bleedingblue2767:
Willis will never start for Kentucky, Mark it down. He is just another John Hood. He will get a few minutes here and there.
No, Hood wasn't good enough to play...

Willis definitely has the talent to play if he works hard enough.
 

WildMoon

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Originally posted by 3rex:
So I guess that's why Andrews draft skyrocketed this season.

Not sure the NBA agrees with you guys.

But, why no response to why WCS can be in this program for 3 years & have learned no offensive moves?
actually his stock did improve.

Early in the season they were not draft-able. Andrew especially improved his stock recently, of course until the N word droppage. I'm guessing that hurt his chances.

His FG% is up
His 3 point FG% is up
TO is down
Assist / TO is way up

Had he started as aggressive as he were later in the season in the beginning of the season, i'm confident that he would have had first round talk guaranteed this season. Unfortunately both Twins started out very laid back.
 

CatCop

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As long as Cal is coach, he'll never play a great shooting "white" kid any significant minutes. Did it with Kyle and he is doing it with Derek. It's easy to hide 1 defensive liability, and you need someone who can hit big shots. Derek was the man in the Bahamas cause he had confidence, he played well the first few games and when WCS and Lyles came back into the lineup, he sat and lost his edge. Which is easy to do as a player! Derek could be the next Padget if Cal would just let him play. It's not like Booker or Lyles had amazing defensive presence.
 

ukfan041

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I hope Willis does succeed and get meaningful minutes, but I just don't see it happening! Another talented guy will come in, which will further put him on the bench! Hope I'm wrong, but that's just how I see it!
 

GonzoCat90

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Hey, all you guys who keep quoting Rex, those of us smart enough to put him on ignore would appreciate if you'd stop. Thanks.
 

jc2010

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Originally posted by weused2luvhim2:


Originally posted by ukfan041:
Willis is talented, but like others have said, he will likely never play meaningful minutes here!
Why?
Look at the Jorts example, he was here all the time but only got on the floor because the NCAA declared Kanter ineligible.
 
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Break out season? No.
But he's got a lot more to offer than Hood (no offense on Hood).

Did some of you not see him in the Bahamas? He was not that far behind the other guys. He's a lean, athletic 6'9. He's quicker than past players like Hood & Padgett & Wiltjer. He's a decent ballhandler for 6'9. A good passer. A decent shooter. Has some mid-range game too.

Do I think he will start next year? No, probably not.
But I do think he can be a contributor, depending on who leaves and who we add, 8-15 mpg.
And as a SR, I think starting is possible, although maybe not likely, in 12-20 mpg.
I see him with a lot of the same attributes as Decker at Wisc.
 

bkingUK

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Calipari has said in the past himself that it's hard for players to prove themselves after he writes them off. Kid will probably never be a relevant contributor.
 

UKWildcats#8

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3 Rex is still in an orgasmic state that UK lost a game...now he can rip Coach Cal and the players. 3 Rex has a disturbing, almost messiah worship for Rick Pitino, yet claims to be a UK fan. Everyone on here, including the mods, know what he is...and all we can do is laugh.
 

mhroe1984

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The only thing Willis will be doing is averaging another 39 minutes a game on the bench.
 

buster3.0

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Awesome, never too early to start the "Will Willis be a breakout star this season?" threads.
 

Dr. H Lecter

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Originally posted by 3rex:
So I guess that's why Andrews draft skyrocketed this season.

Not sure the NBA agrees with you guys.

But, why no response to why WCS can be in this program for 3 years & have learned no offensive moves?
Dont feed the troll.
 

cal=8

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Willis has to put the work in this summer and compete for playing time. He's got an edge because he knows the system. If he puts the work in he should get some PT. He can shoot and feed the post, he's also fairly athletic. We need experience but it ain't gonna happen for Willis unless he makes it happen.
 

TNCatfanforever

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Why couldn't he be a Decker type player? Average defender with great offensive skills. I can see him getting a lot of minutes next year but let's not discuss it all summer. Let's wait until practice starts.
 

crazyqx83_rivals88013

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Originally posted by 3rex:
So I guess that's why Andrews draft skyrocketed this season.

Not sure the NBA agrees with you guys.

But, why no response to why WCS can be in this program for 3 years & have learned no offensive moves?
How come Tyson chandler and DeAndre Jordan have been in the league like 20 combined years and can't even shoot a baby hook?
 

thebluestripes

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I would be shocked if willis ever got real minutes. It's just not a good system for him, much like wiltjer.
The guy would flourish in the right system, but just not here.... Hopefully I'm wrong, but it just seems like a bad fit.
 

TheDude73

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Watchoo talkin' about, Willis?

Seriously though, I firmly believe Willis will indeed have a break out year. But not at UK. I have a hunch he'll take the Wiltjer route and transfer to Gonzaga - the place where all slow, defensively-challenged white dudes go to find stardom.
 

UK90

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Originally posted by TNCatfanforever:

Why couldn't he be a Decker type player?
Because he's not nearly as good as Dekker in any aspect of the game. In fact, really not even close. Never has been. Probably never will be.

That's why.
 

tnttnt1959

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Willis is a step or two below Wiltger, at best, and Wiltger had to transfer.

Willis should transfer to another program. Maybe even Gonzaga.