Sounds like a cool trick. Explain how that happen again so we can see it here in RR over and over.
Willis arrest video
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We stick by our family members when things like this happen. Derek has never caused any problems, good guy - let's stick by our own.
Agree. Hindsight is 20/20. We all probably have mistakes we'd like to be able to go back and do over.
You forgot he went AWOL. I would still be in Leavenworth if I left my post for as long as he did.
no kidding
I get that Willis made a mistake - but it could have been a potentially DEADLY mistake. I'm not understanding why some don't get that? Larry Mahoney made a mistake, too.
That doesn't mean I think Derek should be kicked off the team, but strong disciplinary action should be taken.
Reading this thread embarrasses me as a UK fan. As much as most people on this site criticize our opponents for having kids on their teams that don't obey the law, they turn and defend one of our players that violated the law and could have really hurt someone. That is the point of most of my posts. I love UK and all sports. I do not like people that wear goggles and defend UK regardless of facts. Willis made a huge mistake that should be punished severely. To defend him and then criticize UL players makes you a jackass homer in my view. Feel free to disagree. Too many people define themselves by being UK fans and refuse to disagree with anything that would reflect negative on UK. That makes you stupid if you do that. This kid screwed up. I like him. I hope he has the opportunity to help our team this year. But ignoring this embarrassing video makes us no better than UL or UT.
Thank God no one was injured, or worse.
Pathetic! What did he steal a beer from his Dad's refrigerator??
Those are good points, but I though that in the Commonwealth of Kentucky when you sign to get your drivers license, you agree to submit to a chemical test requested by an officer. I believe an officer has to read you the Implied Consent warning prior to asking you to take a test, and therefore a refusal under the Implied Consent statute leads to the presumption of intoxication in a DUI case. It is true you are entitled to request your own test, but only after you submit to the test requested by the officer. You can pick what type of independent analysis you have performed, but which test the officer runs, that is his/her choice based on what they see in the investigation. This only applies to DUI, as AI and PI do not require any type of chemical test, BTW.
I don't know if you're being serious. If I assume that you are serious, I have to also assume that you would have been the perfect OJ Simpson juror for the defense, and are an apologist extraordinaire. Every piece of public information that I am aware of about this incident is strong evidence of a DUI. And on the basis of that information alone (which, again, assumes there is not other non-public information that disproves) any ordinary citizen would have been charged AND CONVICTED of DUI in any county in this state.
It appears from everything I've read that the police officer cut Mr. Willis a HUGE break; and to be honest, I'm happy about that for selfish reasons. I like to think this near miss will be a good thing for Willis, and cause him thank God and never put himself behind the wheel in that position again.
This...There are opinions of this being no big deal at all to people saying he should be kicked off the team and everything in between.
I do t know , Mandu brought some hard hitting facts that this was Willis first beer run . He'll get better at it .
You are under no obligation to submit to any test- but the law bends you over and breaks it off if you don't. But some people have bigger issues to deal with than the ramifications of the DUI itself.
I had relatives on that bus. (My high school, also). I have two friends from two separate incidences thar almost lost their lives to a couple of "kids being kids". Both have and will have serious health and physical problems for the rest if their lives.
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As a non-drinker I love that I never have to worry about that stuff. Only been stopped once for suspicion (it was New Year's Eve so they were stopping you for even a little bit of swerving), and I happily took the breathalyzer. Knew it would be a big fat goose egg.
I enjoy a few drinks sometimes; but I never drive - even if I know it's only one or two. Or, I'm at home.
I do a little drinking as I enjoy it but I haven't had a drop of alcohol Since a UK game in March..no reason, just haven't but I need to fix that soon.....
Yes you do.
Nothing better for me than to drink so much that I experience consistent DTs.
Party on
At least he was polite and said, "yes sir" to the officer. When that happened to me nearly 30 yrs ago, I told the officer he was just trying to meet his quota
Also, where was his girlfriend? I thought we were paying her to keep him focused
Also, where was his girlfriend? I thought we were paying her to keep him focused
B double EE double RR UN , BEER RUN
B double EE double RR UN , BEEER RUUUUN
All you need is a six foot niner
Car and a key and a sober driver
B double EE double RR UN , BEER RUN
B double EE double RR UN , BEEER RUUUUN
All you need is a six foot niner
Car and a key and a sober driver
B double EE double RR UN , BEER RUN
Please tell me how you charge him with dui?
Where was he caught driving. Is there video? Did they catch him in the car.
Maybe learn the law before trying to ridicule.
No desire to ridicule. I apologize if I did. But you're wrong. You don't have to see a crime occur to prove it occurred. A person may be - and individuals regularly are - convicted entirely by circumstantial evidence. The facts put out to the public were more than enough to EASILY convict Dereck Willis of DUI.
You've got some nerve mocking others for supposedly not knowing the law when you're the one whose knowledge appears lacking.
There is no requirement that a person be caught in the act to be charged with a DUI. Really about the only thing needed to satisfy the probable cause standard is sufficient circumstantial evidence to give the cops "reasonable suspicion" that drunk driving had occurred, which is generally interpreted as indicators that the drunk person had been in control of the car (often shown by possession of the keys) and that the car had recently been running. There are plenty of cases every year where people are charged even though they were in a parked car, not in the driver seat, or asleep or passed out at the time found.
I suspect the only thing that saved Willis (other than perhaps being a UK basketball player) is the fact that he'd fallen out of the car onto the street (although the wide open door made it obvious he had been in the car). If he'd been found passed out in the exact same state in the car he'd have been screwed. Still, given the full circumstances, it would've been well within the cops allowable discretion to charge him with a DUI. They cut him a very fortunate break by instead choosing not to.
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No you did it wrong. Don't you pay attention.
1. Refuse to comply with an officers orders.
2. Run.
3. When **** hits the fan, claim oppression.
4. MSNBC news show the next day.
There is absolutely nothing that you just said that is true about this particular case. Nothing. And you are one of, if not the most mocked person on this board because of how you treat others and how you think you're the ish.
There is not a single thing besides Public intoxication that they could have charged him with. Nothing. I happen to know this because I have a police officer thst is pretty dang close to me. So yeah I think I know.
So yes I do have some nerve when someone is accusing a cop of giving our player preferential treatment when it is complete bullcrap.
You're correct. There can be evidence to prove a crime. But in this case, the video( unless I missed other evidence) is certainly not enough to warrant a charge of DUI. Especially in the immediate aftermath.. and yes people are convicted when there is mountains of circumstantial evidence, but I highly doubr you're going to get willis convicted by a jury based on this video.
Apologize if I jumped you, as I have seen nothing from you in the past which I have disagreed with, but I just don't like seeing accusations like that from tool sheds like uk90. Especially with how big a deal people are making of police cover ups around the country.
Nothing but gleeful hysteria that someone else is having a rough stretch. You've just allowed this unaccustomed, unexpected excitement in your life to overwhelm you, poor boy.
I haven't said anything bad about Willis but I have and will keep pointing out the laughable hypocrisy , favoritism and outright homerism by the fans . Of course some absolutely hate this but I just don't care , you and those like you deserve every bit of it . If Willis were at any other school or even a different player here then he and his school would be blasted on this board . Here you are though acting like its nothing with no shame at all , how fake is that or two faced is that ? That's the real poor boy right there .