Will Nebraska make the tourney?

Will Nebraska make the Tourney


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Ewooc

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That was an ugly unacceptable loss last night. I am looking at the schedule and the only wins I feel somewhat confident in are against Penn St and Illinois. That is only a 60% confidence now. I see Mich, Mich St, Maryland and Iowa as losses. The rest are toss ups.
I believe we must get to 20 wins to have a shot, maybe even 21 22 wins. Can this team realistically win 7 of the next 12 to get that 20 win mark. I just don't see it.
 

RedApocolypse

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That was an ugly unacceptable loss last night. I am looking at the schedule and the only wins I feel somewhat confident in are against Penn St and Illinois. That is only a 60% confidence now. I see Mich, Mich St, Maryland and Iowa as losses. The rest are toss ups.
I believe we must get to 20 wins to have a shot, maybe even 21 22 wins. Can this team realistically win 7 of the next 12 to get that 20 win mark. I just don't see it.
I told anyone that would listen earlier, this is not that good of a team
All you have to do is watch. Im done, carry on
 
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That was an ugly unacceptable loss last night. I am looking at the schedule and the only wins I feel somewhat confident in are against Penn St and Illinois. That is only a 60% confidence now. I see Mich, Mich St, Maryland and Iowa as losses. The rest are toss ups.
I believe we must get to 20 wins to have a shot, maybe even 21 22 wins. Can this team realistically win 7 of the next 12 to get that 20 win mark. I just don't see it.
Yes. The CIT or CBI.
 
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Redscarlet

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They made it very difficult for themselves

Felt this was a sure road win of any away games in the league this year and felt Nebraska could win 3 maybe 4 this year with only losing one home game which MSU was the home loss.
 
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That was an ugly unacceptable loss last night. I am looking at the schedule and the only wins I feel somewhat confident in are against Penn St and Illinois. That is only a 60% confidence now. I see Mich, Mich St, Maryland and Iowa as losses. The rest are toss ups.
I believe we must get to 20 wins to have a shot, maybe even 21 22 wins. Can this team realistically win 7 of the next 12 to get that 20 win mark. I just don't see it.

There isn't an easy road game in the B1G, including Rutgers, Penn State and Illinois. Rutgers plays good defense and on a night when they're able to hit a couple of shots, like they did last night, they're a tough out.
 

huskerbaseball13

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I say yes, assuming they don't go into 2014-2015 Miles tank mode. But, instead of playing for a 3-5 seed I believe they will be vying for a 8-11 seed which is really unfortunate.
 
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I said no. Our most “impressive” wins this year are all against teams with losing records in their respective conferences: Clemson 1-3, Indiana 2-4, Creighton 2-4, Oklahoma State 2-4.

Name me one win this year which convinces you that Nebraska deserves to be in the tourney? I can find none, we are all hype at this point.

Is it possible we make the tourney? Obviously it’s possible. We have our work cut out for us tho. We will need to win out at home, win every game we should win (@ PSU, @ Illinois) and then upset either MSU or Michigan on the road. This will not happen, which is why I said no
 
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Redscarlet

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I said no. Our most “impressive” wins this year are all against teams with losing records in their respective conferences: Clemson 1-3, Indiana 2-4, Creighton 2-4, Oklahoma State 2-4.

Name me one win this year which convinces you that Nebraska deserves to be in the tourney? I can find none, we are all hype at this point.

Is it possible we make the tourney? Obviously it’s possible. We have our work cut out for us tho. We will need to win out at home, win every game we should win (@ PSU, @ Illinois) and then upset either MSU or Michigan on the road. This will not happen, which is why I said no


This team will not beat MSU and Michigan on the road..

Only hope is to win the rest in the Vault by beating Maryland, Minnesota,Purdue and Iowa..
 

huskerssalts

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Yes. They are bound to find there shots again. The past two games we have been OFF and bad. Free throws, 3 pointers and field goal shots. I know most want to to blame Miles and I never been for or against him. But honestly, you can have Roy Williams or Coach “K” and it wouldn’t make a difference if our guys are shooting that bad. They will find there shots sooner or later and then we will be fine again. My opinion.
 
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This team will not beat MSU and Michigan on the road..

Only hope is to win the rest in the Vault by beating Maryland, Minnesota,Purdue and Iowa..
I completely agree we won’t win either road game which is why we won’t be in the tourney. Winning all our home games will not be enough, we did that last year, got to 23 wins and were still left out.
 

huskerssalts

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I completely agree we won’t win either road game which is why we won’t be in the tourney. Winning all our home games will not be enough, we did that last year, got to 23 wins and were still left out.

Yes but last year no one bought into our team outside our Husker fans. This year we are actually getting SOME love, not much but some love. That COULD be the difference. We find our shots again and things will look a lot better. We may not beat Michigan but we will look a lot better if and when we start hitting our shots again.
 

Harry Caray

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If we lose to Illinois or Penn State, we won't make the tournament.

The Clemson and Indiana wins will not end up being "Quad 1" wins as originally thought.
 
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Redscarlet

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I completely agree we won’t win either road game which is why we won’t be in the tourney. Winning all our home games will not be enough, we did that last year, got to 23 wins and were still left out.

If we win all our home games and finish 10-10 they’ll be in... Last your was because we didn’t beat KU at home at 13-5 in the Big 10 we would have been in.
 
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Yes but last year no one bought into our team outside our Husker fans. This year we are actually getting SOME love, not much but some love. That COULD be the difference. We find our shots again and things will look a lot better. We may not beat Michigan but we will look a lot better if and when we start hitting our shots again.

I’ll be curious to see if any love is left as the season goes on. My opinion is still that we need to beat either MSU or Mi and take care of business against the rest.

For the record, I think we lose two more home games, split psu and illinois and get beat by both MSU and mi. Man, do I hope I am wrong
 

Husker4real_rivals373787

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The problem is if they cannot beat Rutgers, even on the road, who else can they beat on their schedule? This team is so fragile, they are certainly not done with disappointing losses. They are now in a position where they are going to have to get a major Marquis victory against Michigan State, Michigan, or some other heavy weight.
 

huskerssalts

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If we win all our home games and finish 10-10 they’ll be in... Last your was because we didn’t beat KU at home at 13-5 in the Big 10 we would have been in.

I think we actually agreed but said things differently. Your probably right and the exact reason no one bought into our team, as a true tourn team. So I think we both on the same page.
 

huskerssalts

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The problem is if they cannot beat Rutgers, even on the road, who else can they beat on their schedule? This team is so fragile, they are certainly not done with disappointing losses. They are now in a position where they are going to have to get a major Marquis victory against Michigan State, Michigan, or some other heavy weight.

We did not lose to the Rutger because they are the better team, we lost only because we were shooting so badly. Missing shots all over the place. We shoot like we normally do or like regular, wed won that game with easy.
 
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If we win all our home games and finish 10-10 they’ll be in... Last your was because we didn’t beat KU at home at 13-5 in the Big 10 we would have been in.

I disagree, no tourney games are played at home, and the tourney committee is smart enough to see that we are a different team at home. I’m not sure at that 10-10 record if we would have any key wins? Certainly none on the road...jmo
 

Redscarlet

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I disagree, no tourney games are played at home, and the tourney committee is smart enough to see that we are a different team at home. I’m not sure at that 10-10 record if we would have any key wins? Certainly none on the road...jmo

You don’t know that till the seasons been completed and winning on a neutral site like Chicago..
 

rgrachek

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That was an ugly unacceptable loss last night. I am looking at the schedule and the only wins I feel somewhat confident in are against Penn St and Illinois. That is only a 60% confidence now. I see Mich, Mich St, Maryland and Iowa as losses. The rest are toss ups.
I believe we must get to 20 wins to have a shot, maybe even 21 22 wins. Can this team realistically win 7 of the next 12 to get that 20 win mark. I just don't see it.
That performance last night wasn't worthy of the NIT. Nebraska is such a bad rebounding team they are a certain 15 point loss in the first round of the NCAAs.
 

k9_r

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Is it possible we make the tourney? Obviously it’s possible. We have our work cut out for us tho. We will need to win out at home, win every game we should win (@ PSU, @ Illinois) and then upset either MSU or Michigan on the road. This will not happen, which is why I said no

After last night's debacle no one can nay say today's negativity and angst. We looked horrible and the future is gloomy.

But... (you knew there was a 'but', right?)

If we win all those games you've listed, our NET will be top 20 maybe top 15 and will be a 6/7 seed for sure.

That's quite a list of Q1 and Q2 wins you strung together there and, of course, that won't happen.
 
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After last night's debacle no one can nay say today's negativity and angst. We looked horrible and the future is gloomy.

But... (you knew there was a 'but', right?)

If we win all those games you've listed, our NET will be top 20 maybe top 15 and will be a 6/7 seed for sure.

That's quite a list of Q1 and Q2 wins you strung together there and, of course, that won't happen.


I'm curious what you and others think our minimum path to the tourney is?

After more consideration, my guess is this:

1. Win 6 of remaining 7 at home
2. Win at both PSU and Illinois
3. Beat either MI or MSU on the road

This assumes that we do nothing special in the Big 10 tourney, again I am assuming at this point that is all we can do.

I don't see any wins that Nebraska currently has that will be Quad 1 wins at the end of year. Maybe @ Indiana will be. We do have a Quad 3 loss though.
 

Husker4real_rivals373787

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I said No, in part to brace myself for what I feel like is the inevitable collapse.

It is looking a lot like last year. Very bad road loss (and a couple of more potential bad road losses to come). No real marquee wins - since the luster of wins over Seton Hall, Clemson, Creighton, and Indiana is fading as conference play continues. Near misses on what would be impressive wins (Maryland and MSU - like KU last year).

Plus, it is incredibly disappointing to see this experienced team continue to crumble at crunch time. They seem to lack confidence, a killer instinct, or some other attribute, that results is really bad play at critical times.

I think we are at risk of seeing a 2015 type collapse.
 
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There isn't an easy road game in the B1G, including Rutgers, Penn State and Illinois. Rutgers plays good defense and on a night when they're able to hit a couple of shots, like they did last night, they're a tough out.
If they don't steal a road win vs MSU or Mich, they aren't getting in. Even if they win the rest of their home slate. I doubt they advance very far in the conf tournament, either.
 

k9_r

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I'm curious what you and others think our minimum path to the tourney is?

Three models...
1. 2014/15, Petteway's final year, right? Total collapse, we stayed home.
2. Last year's OU season - year end collapse but OU's early success earned them RPI cred and resume cred which carried them thru the collapse.
3. We return to winning ways and finish plus .500 in conference.

2 & 3 will get us a bid. Here's the thing, the numbers favor us. Five of our next seven games are at home, our NET is strong and will survive multiple hits, the conference is strong and will get multiple at large bids (8-10).

Last year's model does not apply this year. Last year the B1G was weak (5th in conference RPI) and the B 12 was on top. OU's early success and conference strength got them in.

I'd put our minimum necessary success similar to OU"S last year. 18-14 (8-10) and losing 7 of their last 10 games. Of course they were one 'n done in both the B 12 and NCAA tourneys.
 

schuele

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Three models...
1. 2014/15, Petteway's final year, right? Total collapse, we stayed home.
2. Last year's OU season - year end collapse but OU's early success earned them RPI cred and resume cred which carried them thru the collapse.
3. We return to winning ways and finish plus .500 in conference.

2 & 3 will get us a bid. Here's the thing, the numbers favor us. Five of our next seven games are at home, our NET is strong and will survive multiple hits, the conference is strong and will get multiple at large bids (8-10).

Last year's model does not apply this year. Last year the B1G was weak (5th in conference RPI) and the B 12 was on top. OU's early success and conference strength got them in.

I'd put our minimum necessary success similar to OU"S last year. 18-14 (8-10) and losing 7 of their last 10 games. Of course they were one 'n done in both the B 12 and NCAA tourneys.
Arizona State also finished 9th in the Pac-12 last year and got bounced in the first round of the conference tournament - but still got in based on a strong non-conference schedule. Huskers don't have a non-conference resume as good as ASU's was, but I agree NU still has a good chance to make the field.
 

Harry Caray

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Looks like 10-10 is the unanimous record prediction for the Huskers and it has us in the tourney. I am likely wrong on my above posts. I'm just very pessimistic after getting left out last year and getting beat by Rutgers last night.

We won't win 10 conference games. I think 8 is more likely, and that will not get us in unless we make a run in the conference tourney.
 
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Spartanhusker

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We did not lose to the Rutger because they are the better team, we lost only because we were shooting so badly. Missing shots all over the place. We shoot like we normally do or like regular, wed won that game with easy.
BUT WE DIDN'T!!!! THAT'S the point with this team...IF they don't shoot well, they have no other great calling card...
 

dinglefritz

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BUT WE DIDN'T!!!! THAT'S the point with this team...IF they don't shoot well, they have no other great calling card...
We have to shoot well because we're too small down low. We get moved around wherever other team's bigs want us to go. IMO, Rutgers appeared to me to have a much deeper and better roster than us. Miles would sell his soul to have a big like one of theirs.
 

Spartanhusker

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We have to shoot well because we're too small down low. We get moved around wherever other team's bigs want us to go. IMO, Rutgers appeared to me to have a much deeper and better roster than us. Miles would sell his soul to have a big like one of theirs.
That’s on Miles then to have a big kid.... WSU has 4 6’11 or bigger.... all developing but you got to have them to teach them