Will Frost fire a coordinator

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I thought Callahan's offense was very effective. I thought we had some very good o-line play. His relationship too Cosgrove was more important to him evidently. I think he could have been more successful than the following coaches. I wonder about the character and traditions of our team had he been successful.

After Suh's pro bowl self left Pelini's roster, his defense allowed a short lived rushing record. Their was nothing wrong with his defense, it was obviously the fans. His ego was vested in a defense that he believed he invented ( he didn't) and he would not change. Don't get me started on the offense, dysfunctional. His ego was more important than the Huskers.

Riley is a thief.


Will Frost fire a friend? If he stays, he will undoubtedly have to fire a friend.

Excluding Riley who seems like a man without allegiance, we have had coaches with too much ego that was more important than the iron N. I view Riley as a the Tolkien character (shmegul sp?) so he is not included.

Our previous coaches placed ego and relationships above our team. Will Frost make the hard decisions? What say you.
 

red scowl

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Gonna have to let things play out a little.......

I understand that. I have been fully behind each of our coaches. I chided my father when he was upset about the Riley hire. I'm a dumbass.

I have never personally met a person as celebrated or accomplished as HC Frost. I have met generals and admirals, but they haven't had news coverage about moving from one place to another.

I hope he is as strong as he seems and doesn't get lost within himself. We will see.
 

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Verduzco is a strange one. Weird hair, weird sunglasses, and calling his players “cats”. Also, there’s some indication he mishandled the Gebbia situation, didn’t have the rapport with the QB room he thought he had, and then made excuses when it fell apart. Unless, the QB play is impeccable, he’s one on my watch list..
 

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Verduzco is a strange one. Weird hair, weird sunglasses, and calling his players “cats”. Also, there’s some indication he mishandled the Gebbia situation, didn’t have the rapport with the QB room he thought he had, and then made excuses when it fell apart. Unless, the QB play is impeccable, he’s one on my watch list..

 

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Verduzco is a strange one. Weird hair, weird sunglasses, and calling his players “cats”. Also, there’s some indication he mishandled the Gebbia situation, didn’t have the rapport with the QB room he thought he had, and then made excuses when it fell apart. Unless, the QB play is impeccable, he’s one on my watch list..
Beatnik, think Dobie Gillis!

 
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Verduzco is a strange one. Weird hair, weird sunglasses, and calling his players “cats”. Also, there’s some indication he mishandled the Gebbia situation, didn’t have the rapport with the QB room he thought he had, and then made excuses when it fell apart. Unless, the QB play is impeccable, he’s one on my watch list..
Plus his uncanny resemblance to Bernie Lomax makes me question weather he is actually even alive.
 

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Verduzco is a strange one. Weird hair, weird sunglasses, and calling his players “cats”. Also, there’s some indication he mishandled the Gebbia situation, didn’t have the rapport with the QB room he thought he had, and then made excuses when it fell apart. Unless, the QB play is impeccable, he’s one on my watch list..

Mario trims more swag off his toe nails than you have ever had in your existence. Take it back sir.
 
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Verduzco is a strange one. Weird hair, weird sunglasses, and calling his players “cats”. Also, there’s some indication he mishandled the Gebbia situation, didn’t have the rapport with the QB room he thought he had, and then made excuses when it fell apart. Unless, the QB play is impeccable, he’s one on my watch list..
At age 59 I am a child of the 60's and 70's. So when I see a man who is probably close to my age with a full head of hair - - hippie style - - and hipster doofus glasses, and who says things like "that cat has it going", I feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Count me as a fan of that Verduzco cat.
 

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I understand that. I have been fully behind each of our coaches. I chided my father when he was upset about the Riley hire. I'm a dumbass.

I have never personally met a person as celebrated or accomplished as HC Frost. I have met generals and admirals, but they haven't had news coverage about moving from one place to another.

I hope he is as strong as he seems and doesn't get lost within himself. We will see.

So why start this thread?
 

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I too also like the hypothetical, so I will answer your question. My gut is Frost will not fire his friends. He seems like a family/friends first type of guy. He speaks constantly on unity, togetherness, brotherhood. He lead by example and trust. If players see he is willing to fire a friend and coach. I don't see them trusting him and believing what he is preaching. While I believe he want to bring Nebraska back, I don't think he will abandon a friend to do it. I see him being ride or die with the group of coaches he has. Now, One of them may see the writing on the wall and step away, but I don't think he will actually fire
 
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Verduzco is a strange one. Weird hair, weird sunglasses, and calling his players “cats”. Also, there’s some indication he mishandled the Gebbia situation, didn’t have the rapport with the QB room he thought he had, and then made excuses when it fell apart. Unless, the QB play is impeccable, he’s one on my watch list..

More than likely he is a P$&%& magnet, and probably has crushed more muff than Wilt.
 

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I thought Callahan's offense was very effective. I thought we had some very good o-line play. His relationship too Cosgrove was more important to him evidently. I think he could have been more successful than the following coaches. I wonder about the character and traditions of our team had he been successful.

After Suh's pro bowl self left Pelini's roster, his defense allowed a short lived rushing record. Their was nothing wrong with his defense, it was obviously the fans. His ego was vested in a defense that he believed he invented ( he didn't) and he would not change. Don't get me started on the offense, dysfunctional. His ego was more important than the Huskers.

Riley is a thief.


Will Frost fire a friend? If he stays, he will undoubtedly have to fire a friend.

Excluding Riley who seems like a man without allegiance, we have had coaches with too much ego that was more important than the iron N. I view Riley as a the Tolkien character (shmegul sp?) so he is not included.

Our previous coaches placed ego and relationships above our team. Will Frost make the hard decisions? What say you.


So Callahan and Pelini were wrong because they didn't fire people. And Riley was "a man without allegiance" because he did fire his friend. Sounds like no way to win.
 

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Verduzco is a strange one. Weird hair, weird sunglasses, and calling his players “cats”. Also, there’s some indication he mishandled the Gebbia situation, didn’t have the rapport with the QB room he thought he had, and then made excuses when it fell apart. Unless, the QB play is impeccable, he’s one on my watch list..

Verduzco. Undefeated in 2017.
 

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I’ll bite here... and for everyone that is bashing just settle down a little and pull your skirts up, the OP said nothing of him HAVING to fire it is all hypothetical.... sooo what I’d say is hypothetically I don’t think he would fire his friends, however I think most of his assistance love NU because of their history that if they see they are not cutting it or if Frost has that heart to heart with them then there will be a “mutual parting” possibly getting them hired some where else. I think Frost ultimately wants NU to succeed and he will do what it takes, I don’t think he will toss any of his friends under the bus but it seems like they all have a good relationship to where there will be a “mutual parting”....now as far as the statement in regards to Riley I don’t agree with that I think he was a man with allegiance I mean seriously he never wanted to leave OSU he came to Nebraska to try and get one championship he canned a friend that didn’t cut it and we canned him when he didn’t cut it and look where he went back to OSU he has plenty of allengence he just knew that working at Nebraska was is last opportunity to try and win and be successful it didn’t happen for him but what ever...
 
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At age 59 I am a child of the 60's and 70's. So when I see a man who is probably close to my age with a full head of hair - - hippie style - - and hipster doofus glasses, and who says things like "that cat has it going", I feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Count me as a fan of that Verduzco cat.
Count me in on the Verdu bandwagon. I don’t care if he looks like Christopher Lloyd (Doc Brown for you youngsters) from ‘Back To The Future’. There’s a reason we’re recruiting some QB studs and it’s not just SF. Oh, and btw I haven’t parted my hair in the middle for about 2 years now.
 
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I thought Callahan's offense was very effective. I thought we had some very good o-line play. His relationship too Cosgrove was more important to him evidently. I think he could have been more successful than the following coaches. I wonder about the character and traditions of our team had he been successful.

After Suh's pro bowl self left Pelini's roster, his defense allowed a short lived rushing record. Their was nothing wrong with his defense, it was obviously the fans. His ego was vested in a defense that he believed he invented ( he didn't) and he would not change. Don't get me started on the offense, dysfunctional. His ego was more important than the Huskers.

Riley is a thief.


Will Frost fire a friend? If he stays, he will undoubtedly have to fire a friend.

Excluding Riley who seems like a man without allegiance, we have had coaches with too much ego that was more important than the iron N. I view Riley as a the Tolkien character (shmegul sp?) so he is not included.

Our previous coaches placed ego and relationships above our team. Will Frost make the hard decisions? What say you.

You mean the coordinators he’ll have to hire to replace the ones we got now when they are given head coaching opportunities due to how great they did at Dear Ol’ Nebraska U?
 

GeorgeFlippin

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I thought Callahan's offense was very effective. I thought we had some very good o-line play. His relationship too Cosgrove was more important to him evidently. I think he could have been more successful than the following coaches. I wonder about the character and traditions of our team had he been successful.

After Suh's pro bowl self left Pelini's roster, his defense allowed a short lived rushing record. Their was nothing wrong with his defense, it was obviously the fans. His ego was vested in a defense that he believed he invented ( he didn't) and he would not change. Don't get me started on the offense, dysfunctional. His ego was more important than the Huskers.

Riley is a thief.


Will Frost fire a friend? If he stays, he will undoubtedly have to fire a friend.

Excluding Riley who seems like a man without allegiance, we have had coaches with too much ego that was more important than the iron N. I view Riley as a the Tolkien character (shmegul sp?) so he is not included.

Our previous coaches placed ego and relationships above our team. Will Frost make the hard decisions? What say you.


Heard Frost fired an assistant coach on the offense side of the ball a half hour ago. Who’d of thought it would be so soon?:rolleyes:
 

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If he has to replace any coordinators hopefully it’s because they leave for head coaching jobs. Has anyone had worse luck with coordinators over the last 15 years than us?
 

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When has firing coaches worked out well? We have to start there first because I am not sure there is precedent or data that it is a sustainable solution. Nu has the experience that each new coach added to a staff leads to multiple losses because of the lack of continuity at best or a different point of view and power struggle at worst. The moment you start firing coordinators to fix a bad season it seems like you are picking scapegoats. Ultimately the HC is responsible for his position guys. You are basically saying "look, I just fired a guy that I chose to hire, invest millions of dollars and thousands of hours of football resources into, and now since I fired the guy I hired I look like a better coach." This is a bad look for everyone. The best you can do is have a 10-2 season, move a guy to another program with respect, and bring in a superstar coach. Blaming a 5-7 campaign on a single coach is bad optics.
 

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Verduzco is a strange one. Weird hair, weird sunglasses, and calling his players “cats”. Also, there’s some indication he mishandled the Gebbia situation, didn’t have the rapport with the QB room he thought he had, and then made excuses when it fell apart. Unless, the QB play is impeccable, he’s one on my watch list..
McKenzie Milton
 

oldjar07

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So Callahan and Pelini were wrong because they didn't fire people. And Riley was "a man without allegiance" because he did fire his friend. Sounds like no way to win.
Riley fired the wrong guy. If he fired Cav and kept Banker, he'd probably still be here.
 
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He'll probably have to fire someone at some point. Bringing his entire staff over does bring concerns that he won't do it when he needs to. It's not necessarily bad that coaches have loyalty to their friends and assistants. Almost every coach does. It's when that loyalty gets into the way of the success of the team is when it becomes a probem.
 
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I thought Callahan's offense was very effective. I thought we had some very good o-line play. His relationship too Cosgrove was more important to him evidently. I think he could have been more successful than the following coaches. I wonder about the character and traditions of our team had he been successful.

After Suh's pro bowl self left Pelini's roster, his defense allowed a short lived rushing record. Their was nothing wrong with his defense, it was obviously the fans. His ego was vested in a defense that he believed he invented ( he didn't) and he would not change. Don't get me started on the offense, dysfunctional. His ego was more important than the Huskers.

Riley is a thief.


Will Frost fire a friend? If he stays, he will undoubtedly have to fire a friend.

Excluding Riley who seems like a man without allegiance, we have had coaches with too much ego that was more important than the iron N. I view Riley as a the Tolkien character (shmegul sp?) so he is not included.

Our previous coaches placed ego and relationships above our team. Will Frost make the hard decisions? What say you.

The real reason pelini failed was because of the bcs. That’s why they made that call.
 

dinglefritz

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Riley fired the wrong guy. If he fired Cav and kept Banker, he'd probably still be here.
In that case he fired the right guy so we could get Frost..... Listening to them interviewed and watching them coach UCF, I do not see any conceivable reason that Frost will ever have to fire any of these guys short of criminal activity. These guys are extremely qualified and area great team. Chinander is going to get some heat because given the style of play they're going to burned at times, but the guy knows what he's doing. Frost has a very good grasp on how to be a D coordinator and he likes Chinander.
 
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There’s no doubt in my mind that Frost would fire someone if need be. He will do whatever it takes to win.
 

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Does anyone have a replacement list of new potential Husker staff members?
Let's have someone google a list of "hot hires" and then talk themselves into thinking that we have to hire someone off that list. It worked so well with Diaco that I don't understand what Frost is waiting for.
 
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