Will Dabo get his LB back?....

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Yep, if OM gets off scott free with that kind of tampering after a player has signed with another school and already attending classes, then there absolutely are no rules. OM will basically be playing with 2 illegal players this season but nobody cares.
 
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Sankey just openly saying that his entire organization is toothless and that they are too weak and cowardly to enforce their own rules is insane, but also expected.

I fully expect Louisiana Monroe to get hammered by the NCAA for giving recruits excessive amounts of boudin on visits.
 
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OG Goat Holder

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What rules got broken? Seems to me like if the LB couldn't legally leave Clemson, he wouldn't have left Clemson. I'm not getting what the tampering is all about.
 

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Yep, if OM gets off scott free with that kind of tampering after a player has signed with another school and already attending classes, then there absolutely are no rules. OM will basically be playing with 2 illegal players this season but nobody cares.
Honest question. Do you not wish we did the types of things they did, the win at all costs mentality. Can you honestly say with a straight face that you hope we would not try and have gotten Trinidad another year if he was our QB? You would be upset if we got Luke Ferrelli (same “tampering” scenario) to come here?
 

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Honest question. Do you not wish we did the types of things they did, the win at all costs mentality. Can you honestly say with a straight face that you hope we would not try and have gotten Trinidad another year if he was our QB? You would be upset if we got Luke Ferrelli (same scenario) to come here?
I'm a lot more upset that that we're not doing these things than I am that Mississippi is doing them.
 
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Honest question. Do you not wish we did the types of things they did, the win at all costs mentality. Can you honestly say with a straight face that you hope we would not try and have gotten Trinidad another year if he was our QB? You would be upset if we got Luke Ferrelli (same scenario) to come here?
This. I would be DELIGHTED to see this type of innovative approach to our program. There are literally no enforceable rules. Why are we holding ourselves to some standard that doesn't produce wins? There's no "right way" in college football, never has been. But sure as heck isn't now.
 
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This. I would be DELIGHTED to see this type of innovative approach to our program. There are literally no enforceable rules. Why are we holding ourselves to some standard that doesn't produce wins? There's no "right way" in college football, never has been. But sure as heck isn't now.
Yeah I mean this is nothing but Dabo throwing old man anger out about a system that is simply not going to be how it was before. He sounds like a complete idiot.

I mean, I hate it too. It took MSU 100 years to finally figure out the old system and poof, it's gone. And what makes it worse is that Ole Miss is probably the first team that truly figured out the new system.
 

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Yeah I mean this is nothing but Dabo throwing old man anger out about a system that is simply not going to be how it was before. He sounds like a complete idiot.

I mean, I hate it too. It took MSU 100 years to finally figure out the old system and poof, it's gone. And what makes it worse is that Ole Miss is probably the first team that truly figured out the new system.
I’ll put it this way:

If Kamario Taylor was phenomenal in 2028, and he decided you know what I love it here I want to stay another year for 2029, I would hope we sue the 17 out of the NCAA to get another year for him and try it in front of the most MSU homer Oktibbeha county judge there is.

If Luke Ferrelli was still on Clemson’s campus today, and he literally called us on Sept 1 of this year, the Monday before our first game, and said I want to come I’d personally drive to pick him up.
 
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I just wish we would tamper with Memphis, Troy, Tulane, etc. I want their 3-4 best players each year to transfer to State. We can't mess with the big boys yet, but we can eat up some smaller fish. You take the top 2% of Group of 5 rosters. That's a portal strategy that could really work.
 

OG Goat Holder

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I’ll put it this way:

If Kamario Taylor was phenomenal in 2028, and he decided you know what I love it here I want to stay another year for 2029, I would hope we sue the 17 out of the NCAA to get another year for him and try it in front of the most MSU homer Oktibbeha county judge there is.

If Luke Ferrelli was still on Clemson’s campus today, and he literally called us on Sept 1 of this year, the Monday before our first game, and said I want to come I’d personally drive to pick him up.
If it's within the transfer portal windows and within the framework of the school, I don't see the issue at all.
 

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Sankey just openly saying that his entire organization is toothless and that they are too weak and cowardly to enforce their own rules is insane, but also expected.

I fully expect Louisiana Monroe to get hammered by the NCAA for giving recruits excessive amounts of boudin on visits.
Rightfully so. Serving boudin in Northern Louisiana should be a capital offense.
 

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Yeah I mean this is nothing but Dabo throwing old man anger out about a system that is simply not going to be how it was before. He sounds like a complete idiot.

I mean, I hate it too. It took MSU 100 years to finally figure out the old system and poof, it's gone. And what makes it worse is that Ole Miss is probably the first team that truly figured out the new system.
They were already operating under the new system. I am just surprised at how slow Auburn has been at getting up to speed in the new system.
 

maroonmania

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What rules got broken? Seems to me like if the LB couldn't legally leave Clemson, he wouldn't have left Clemson. I'm not getting what the tampering is all about.
NCAA rules got broken but they are toothless anyway. At the time OM contacted the player in question and got him to transfer, he was not a 'recruitable' athlete. But even if the NCAA ruled him ineligible to play at OM I'm sure an OM judge would overturn that. Its kind of like if we do away with police where you can have all the laws you want but really doesn't matter if there is no enforcement. Or, if the police try to enforce them, but the arrests just keep getting thrown out of court on a technicality.
 

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NCAA rules got broken but they are toothless anyway. At the time OM contacted the player in question and got him to transfer, he was not a 'recruitable' athlete. But even if the NCAA ruled him ineligible to play at OM I'm sure an OM judge would overturn that. It’s kind of like if we do away with police where you can have all the laws you want but really doesn't matter if there is no enforcement. Or, if the police try to enforce them, but the arrests just keep getting thrown out of court on a technicality.
Under the current situation, the NCAA has about the same power to enforce their rules as an unarmed security guard has to stop a bank robber with an AK47.

Until this thing gets something passed by Congress or there is a legitimate collective bargaining agreement with rules and enforceable contracts, there are no rules. We should be doing literally everything we can to win until that happens, including tampering, suing to get extra eligibility, whatever it takes.
 

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Honest question. Do you not wish we did the types of things they did, the win at all costs mentality. Can you honestly say with a straight face that you hope we would not try and have gotten Trinidad another year if he was our QB? You would be upset if we got Luke Ferrelli (same “tampering” scenario) to come here?
So if the question is would I rather win with illegal players than lose with legal ones? Yea, would probably rather win, but my first choice would be that when people blatantly break the rules, they are punished to the point where its more advantageous to follow the rules. If there is going to be no punishment, then I just wish the NCAA would come out and say to do what you want because we aren't able to enforce anything. I still can't for the life of me understand how courts have any say in the eligibility of a player in a voluntary organization? I understand the NIL piece given that's 'commerce' I guess. But an organization can't set its own rules and judgements for when a player is or is not eligible to play at a university? That's just seems asinine.
 

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If Luke Ferrelli was still on Clemson’s campus today, and he literally called us on Sept 1 of this year, the Monday before our first game, and said I want to come I’d personally drive to pick him up.
To be fair, Ferrelli didn't call Mississippi. They called/texted him after he was already enrolled in and taking classes. They absolutely should get hammered for this and the player should lose his eligibility for 1 year. But nothing will happen.
 

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So if the question is would I rather win with illegal players than lose with legal ones? Yea, would probably rather win, but my first choice would be that when people blatantly break the rules, they are punished to the point where its more advantageous to follow the rules. If there is going to be no punishment, then I just wish the NCAA would come out and say to do what you want because we aren't able to enforce anything. I still can't for the life of me understand how courts have any say in the eligibility of a player in a voluntary organization? I understand the NIL piece given that's 'commerce' I guess. But an organization can't set its own rules and judgements for when a player is or is not eligible to play at a university? That's just seems asinine.
I too would prefer the rules be enforced and punishments doled out. But actions speak louder than words and time and time again, it has been shown the NCAA is powerless and cannot enforce anything. So if this is the new way to play the game, until it’s fixed, we should do whatever it takes to win too.

A lot of us on this board are just sitting here hoping for Ole Miss and Golding to get hammered by the NCAA. That is never going to happen.
 

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This. I would be DELIGHTED to see this type of innovative approach to our program. There are literally no enforceable rules. Why are we holding ourselves to some standard that doesn't produce wins? There's no "right way" in college football, never has been. But sure as heck isn't now.
100%! Instead we self report and self impose harsh penalties.

We self imposed harsh penalties after the cheating scandal (SloMo's last year, IIRC), while other universities had much bigger scandals, but fought the NCAA and received no punishment.
 
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