Will Clark for HC

blacklistedbully

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Rafael would probably be a great HC...just think the extra baggage of the steroids debacle makes it impossible at this point.
 

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Rafael would probably be a great HC...just think the extra baggage of the steroids debacle makes it impossible at this point.

Nah, he might be a good tactician and I think he would be a very good hitting coach but I think he'd suck at recruiting.
 

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People. Just because someone was a good player at MSU or the pros doesn’t mean they’ll be a good coach. Especially with no experience.
 

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Will Clark spent 5 years as an adviser for the Arizona Diamondbacks and is now working in the front-office for the SF Giants. What Will has done for his autistic son Trey is inspiring. Will had plenty left in the tank, enough to get him in the MLB HOF, but hung up his spikes to spend time with Trey.

Dude has his priorities in order, and has no doubt learned great patience as a teacher, given his situation.

I'm not guaranteeing he would be a great coach, but I do think his credentials are enough for consideration. If he turned out to be a great coach, he's another guy who would likely consider the job his dream job.
 
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Will Clark spent 5 years as an adviser for the Arizona Cardinals and is now working in the front-office for the SF Giants. What Will has done for his autistic son Trey is inspiring. Will had plenty left in the tank, enough to get him in the MLB HOF, but hung up his spikes to spend time with Trey.

Dude has his priorities in order, and has no doubt learned great patience as a teacher, given his situation.

I'm not guaranteeing he would be a great coach, but I do think his credentials are enough for consideration. If he turned out to be a great coach, he's another guy who would likely consider the job his dream job.
No doubt, I just don’t think he has the energy to do what it takes to land top recruits at a university that already has a scholarship disadvantage.
 

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Speaking as a guy who grew up with a mentally-handicapped sister, I can tell you there is no way Will lacks energy, given what he has experienced with Trey.

And a guy like Will Clark is already gonna be a natural draw to cocky, elite ball-players.
 

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If you want a serious name, how about Chris Maloney? He has been managing for a long time now. Not sure if he would be interested, but he has won as a manager in all level of the minors.
 

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I love Will Clark, but I think you might be giving his name among current recruits a little too much cache.
 

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Bruce, I get from your post you don't think Will would be a serious candidate. But let me ask you as a former player...if you were coming up now as a recruit, would you really not consider the chance to be coached by Will Clark at least something you'd be very interested in considering?
 

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I am not implying anything negative about Will. I know just about all there is to know about Baseball, but I haven't been coaching or managing for many years. I doubt I would be very good right away. Chris has been managing and coaching at all levels of pro ball and has multiple World Series rings that he has earned. I just think someone who has been doing the job all these years is a better candidate. He has the weight of all that pro ball experience to sell to kids coming to State.

Plus he has deep roots in Mississippi with his family. Maybe he would like to settle down for awhile back home.
 
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6× All-Star (1988–1992, 1994)
NLCS MVP (1989)
Gold Glove Award (1991)
2× Silver Slugger Award (1989, 1991)
NL RBI leader (1988)
Golden Spikes Award (1985)

I live in Cali. When I wear my Miss State baseball cap, I am often approached by people who ask if I went to school with Will Clark, and will mention that team with Will, Raffy, Brantley & Thigpen.

People have not forgotten, and any big-time baseball recruit...if they don't already know and respect what Will accomplished, would look it up if he was recruiting them.

How many programs could boast of a HC that was a 6-time MLB All-Star, NLCS MVP, etc? How many can say their coach was a starting every day player for 15 seasons, despite numerous injuries?

How many recruits could not see he was one of the most clutch players in the league during his time?
 

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6× All-Star (1988–1992, 1994)
NLCS MVP (1989)
Gold Glove Award (1991)
2× Silver Slugger Award (1989, 1991)
NL RBI leader (1988)
Golden Spikes Award (1985)

I live in Cali. When I wear my Miss State baseball cap, I am often approached by people who ask if I went to school with Will Clark, and will mention that team with Will, Raffy, Brantley & Thigpen.

People have not forgotten, and any big-time baseball recruit...if they don't already know and respect what Will accomplished, would look it up if he was recruiting them.

How many programs could boast of a HC that was a 6-time MLB All-Star, NLCS MVP, etc? How many can say their coach was a starting every day player for 15 seasons, despite numerous injuries?

How many recruits could not see he was one of the most clutch players in the league during his time?

The latest date you mentioned on his resume was 1994. That is seven years before guys he would be recruiting were born. He won't be recruiting guys who remember the 85 team or care about the 85 team like we do. They won't look him up. They won't care. Doesn't mean you shouldn't or I shouldn't. But trust me, they won't.
 

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I agree that successful HC experience is a big plus to consider, but just one factor. Chris may well be a better overall candidate at this point. I'm just surprised some on this thread dismiss the idea of Will out-of-hand, as if it's absurd.

Cann had no HC experience, yet had he not screwed-the-pooch with his personal life, I think he would have eventually become a legendary coach at State.

Aside from Clark not being a top choice for you...I do still wonder what a stud college ball-player like yourself might have thought if recruited by someone like Will Clark when you were coming up.

BTW, I got to watch you play from the LFL my first year at State. You hit some monster HR's my man!
 

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You don't think current recruits know their baseball history? You think they don't still admire players from the past? Baseball, more than any sport, is one that those passionate about it remain aware of past players, and to a significant degree.

I guarantee you the vast majority of these kids know and admire what Clark did than more than perhaps a handful of guys who are more recent. Six-time All-Star in 15 seasons, in spite of injures. Ball-player recruits know who Will Clark is, and respect what he did a helluva lot more than any number of players recently-retired, or even still playing.
 

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I guess it could help. I am not a good one to ask because I was not highly recruited in the south. I had offers all over the northeast. Being a NY boy I was just wanting to go south for the better weather and MSU was the best opportunity I had. I would have gone to Arizona if they would have made an offer, but it was so hard to get out of the northeast as a baseball player.
 

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On a side note. The LFL back in those days could get really nasty for the opposing outfielders. Not that it hasn't always been the case, but I remember not just the extreme verbal abuse, but that an opposing outfielder having to run to the fence would often experience a beer-shower, especially if he came across as a dick, or was from Ole Miss.

Yes, after the game, we'd invite them over to party, etc. But during the game it was absolutely brutal. How did you and your teammates feel about the **** we fans would rain down on them out there? Did you or your teammates experience anything close to that as an opposing player at another ballpark?
 

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Truth. Low-hangin' balls that say, "Chicks dig towering home runs". Someone who ***** the prom queen and makes the opposing pitcher toss the condom in the trash.
 

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Truth. Low-hangin' balls that say, "Chicks dig towering home runs". Someone who ***** the prom queen and makes the opposing pitcher toss the condom in the trash.

That is certainly a vivid picture. Our team would probably be better if it had been recruited by more of an alpha male.**
 

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C'mon, man. Was not referring to the HC. Was responding to Hump saying we could use a couple hard-nosed, HR bangin' bats like Bruce's was in his time. Could have said another Rooker, but we were exchanging with Bruce and reminiscing a bit. Dude got 98 RBI's in '81. Think we could use a bat or two like that?
 
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Will Clark is also a punk. He didn't autograph baseballs for kids at the old timers game. Why isn't it the Will Clark center instead of the Palmeiro center? oh yeah because he didn't pay for it and doesn't care about his alma mater nor its fans. I would be willing to bet he has every nickleback album and secretly wants to move to canada
 

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I don't know about that, but I do know he used to sign plenty of autographs for kids at Giant's games, and I know he is on video praising Miss State as the Taj Mahal of baseball. That documentary showed him telling his autistic son Trey what a great place it was and is to play.

As far as the money goes, perhaps he has chosen to sink it into research and treatment for autism, and/or is making sure there will always be plenty to take care of Trey when he and his wife are gone. I do know he donated significant $ to the improvements we made in '89. And how certain are you of what other charities he may have supported in SF, Arlington, Tx and Baltimore?
 
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