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frankluv

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My Brother in law lives in Bismark N.D. and he said that most days are hazy because of the fires in the west and when the wind shifts, it's hazy from fires in British Columbia, Canada. Fires are almost everywhere.
 
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HUSKERFAN66

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We had a couple days where the smoke filtered out the sun here in Nebraska but the jet stream definitely took the smoke north of here.
 
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Cleveland has had haze and red sunsets from the fires and its passing on to PA and western NY too.
 
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Droughts are no fun that's for sure, are people allowed to clear dead trees or brush away or is that prohibited. I'm pretty sure in the 70's and 80s some of the western states it was required to remove dead brush and trees. Heck here in Nebraska in especially in the spring where there's a lot of no till it creates a problem if it's dry and someone does some burning and it gets into a corn field and the wind picks us look out it can move for miles. To old corn stalks have a lot of fuel for the fire
 
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The_Glove_Man said:
It's almost like the climate is changing.
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If you ever watched the miniseries by ken burns about the dust bowl the wind blowing dust actually created its own climate those people really suffered, But the rains finally came back and they changed there farming practices and with some good government programs planting shelter belts contour farming,but one thing the government couldn't do was make it rain!!!
 
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Visibility in Denver today was the worst I can remember. On a clear day I can see a few high peaks from my office window. Even on a hazy day, I can still see the foothills. Today I couldn't see past the downtown skyline.
 
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Visibility in Denver today was the worst I can remember. On a clear day I can see a few high peaks from my office window. Even on a hazy day, I can still see the foothills. Today I couldn't see past the downtown skyline.
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Same here in northern Colorado. Visibility is less than a mile in spots.
 
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The_Glove_Man said:
It's almost like the climate is changing.
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Article in the Denver Post today said there are 1,600 wildfires in Colorado (so far) this year burning 430,000 acres. In 2002 there were 4,600 wildfires burning almost 1 million acres. Maybe the climate change is getting better.
Or maybe it's just called weather.
 
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Droughts are no fun that's for sure, are people allowed to clear dead trees or brush away or is that prohibited. I'm pretty sure in the 70's and 80s some of the western states it was required to remove dead brush and trees. Heck here in Nebraska in especially in the spring where there's a lot of no till it creates a problem if it's dry and someone does some burning and it gets into a corn field and the wind picks us look out it can move for miles. To old corn stalks have a lot of fuel for the fire
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We aren't really in a drought. Eastern Washington only gets about 5-12 inches of precipitation per year. Closer to Spokane, that is almost in Idaho, gets a little more. There are many factors contributing to the increase in fires. Eastern Washington and Eastern Oregon get hot. Daily temperatures after July 4th (We had a pretty cool and wet June, warmer than normal May) consistently over 90 degrees and most days are over 95 degrees. Our humidity on hot days is less than 20%. There is less logging going on. The Northwest use to have large flocks of sheep that grazed on open range in the summer. I am not an expert but I don't think there are as many cattle grazing on open range as there use to be. Add all that to the increase in population that only puts more dumb people out in the woods. When I moved to Seattle in the late seventies the state's population was just under 4 million. Now we have over 7 million people. It was awful three summers ago. Not much smoke, but some the last two summers. I think it is the new normal. AQI is now at 226. That is not good but it is a lot better than what is was.
 
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The sunsets here have been incredible if you can get out in an open space in the country. The Sun is Crimson red and yes it is an omen.
 
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We aren't really in a drought. Eastern Washington only gets about 5-12 inches of precipitation per year. Closer to Spokane, that is almost in Idaho, gets a little more. There are many factors contributing to the increase in fires. Eastern Washington and Eastern Oregon get hot. Daily temperatures after July 4th (We had a pretty cool and wet June, warmer than normal May) consistently over 90 degrees and most days are over 95 degrees. Our humidity on hot days is less than 20%. There is less logging going on. The Northwest use to have large flocks of sheep that grazed on open range in the summer. I am not an expert but I don't think there are as many cattle grazing on open range as there use to be. Add all that to the increase in population that only puts more dumb people out in the woods. When I moved to Seattle in the late seventies the state's population was just under 4 million. Now we have over 7 million people. It was awful three summers ago. Not much smoke, but some the last two summers. I think it is the new normal. AQI is now at 226. That is not good but it is a lot better than what is was.
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Absolutely lots of reasons but I have lived in Seattle since 87 and the last couple of years have been the worst. We just cancelled our rv trip to Wenatchee because of the smoke. Is it now ok over there?
 
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Spent a quick weekend over in Bremerton/Seattle and I have to say I've never seen it so smoky. The fire damage at I90/Hwy 26 (Vantage) from the fire a few weeks ago is pretty awful and there are other obvious fire spots along I90 as well. The trip home yesterday was awful - everything is a weird yellow/gray.
Fortunately the sky was sort of clear and the sun was out Saturday to watch the Sounders trounce LA Galaxy. ;)
 
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HUSKERFAN66

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Wasker77 said:
We aren't really in a drought. Eastern Washington only gets about 5-12 inches of precipitation per year. Closer to Spokane, that is almost in Idaho, gets a little more. There are many factors contributing to the increase in fires. Eastern Washington and Eastern Oregon get hot. Daily temperatures after July 4th (We had a pretty cool and wet June, warmer than normal May) consistently over 90 degrees and most days are over 95 degrees. Our humidity on hot days is less than 20%. There is less logging going on. The Northwest use to have large flocks of sheep that grazed on open range in the summer. I am not an expert but I don't think there are as many cattle grazing on open range as there use to be. Add all that to the increase in population that only puts more dumb people out in the woods. When I moved to Seattle in the late seventies the state's population was just under 4 million. Now we have over 7 million people. It was awful three summers ago. Not much smoke, but some the last two summers. I think it is the new normal. AQI is now at 226. That is not good but it is a lot better than what is was.
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Some of that is due to the government changing their grazing policies if that was federal government public land . Can't say if it is state land. I have friends that have grazing rights on some national Park service land for generations. They said the feds have been ridiculously jerks to deal with in the last decade. Sometimes I tell them to quit their whining because it is very reasonable rent compared to what I have to pay!!

Also have a friend that has a cousin that is a firefighter in Idaho. He said IF the fire is from natural causes they let it burn to get rid of brush and vegetation which is a good thing. IF it's intentionally or accidentally set, they put it out. Vandel Julie do you have any insight on this?
 
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huskerfan66 said:
Some of that is due to the government changing their grazing policies if that was federal government public land . Can't say if it is state land. I have friends that have grazing rights on some national Park service land for generations. They said the feds have been ridiculously jerks to deal with in the last decade. Sometimes I tell them to quit their whining because it is very reasonable rent compared to what I have to pay!!

Also have a friend that has a cousin that is a firefighter in Idaho. He said IF the fire is from natural causes they let it burn to get rid of brush and vegetation which is a good thing. IF it's intentionally or accidentally set, they put it out. Vandel Julie do you have any insight on this?
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Most of the land is federal. I think rules and regulations have made it harder and harder for cattlemen to open range in the West. In some cases environmentalist have secured leases on BLM lands to prevent grazing
 
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Wasker77 said:
Most of the land is federal. I think rules and regulations have made it harder and harder for cattlemen to open range in the West. In some cases environmentalist have secured leases on BLM lands to prevent grazing
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A friend of mine just returned from california. He said it has changed a lot since the last time he was there. Hills are all covered with what appeared to be knee high vegetation that resembled
brown mature wild oats. Very dry and an extremely high fire hazard. Wasn't that way years ago.

BTW. Hes never going back. What a mess of a state.
 
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huskerfan66 said:
A friend of mine just returned from california. He said it has changed a lot since the last time he was there. Hills are all covered with what appeared to be knee high vegetation that resembled
brown mature wild oats. Very dry and an extremely high fire hazard. Wasn't that way years ago.

BTW. Hes never going back. What a mess of a state.
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I was born in California. Lived outside of Sacramento surrounded my ag lands, mostly tomatoes and rice, until I was eleven. My dad's job required us to leave for the Midwest in '66. California of my childhood was a great place. Now their claim to fame is banning plastic straws. Seattle and Portland have followed California's lead on just about everything. That is why I live in Eastern Washington.
 
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