Why WVU needs #4 seed or higher

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

How often each seed level reaches the Final Four:

#1 seed 52 times
#2 seed 28 times
#3 seed 14 times
#4 seed 13 times
#5 seed 6 times
#6 seed 3 times
#7 seed 2 times
#8 seed 5 times
#9 seed 1 time
#10 seed 1 time
#11 seed 3 times
#12 through #16 seeds have NEVER made the Final Four.

Where you are seeded has a major role in whether you can reach the Final Four. #1 through #4 have a tremendous advantage, in both talent and level of competition in the early rounds. Yes, there are first or second round upsets, but the odds are stacked heavily with the top 4 seeds (16 teams).


I don’t care as long as WVU is #4 seed or higher in March Madness. That’s critical to a successful run because you don’t play any of the top 16 teams till the regional semifinals. The Final Four numbers by seed prove that.

That’s why the top 4 seeds have reached the Final Four far more than the 5 through 16 seeds. The number of Final Four appearances is in line with the seeding rank through #5. After that, lower seeds make it more times than higher seeds in some cases. It’s almost irrelevant.


As for next Monday's polls:

#17 Duke lost to North Carolina State

#1/#2 Villanova lost to Marquette

#1/#2 Kansas lost badly to #18 West Virginia

#4 Kentucky lost to Tennessee

#6 Florida State lost badly to Georgia Tech


#14 Notre Dame lost to #12 Virginia


#16 Creighton lost by 20 to Georgetown



That’s 7 ranked teams that lost in 3 days! With 4 days left before the next polls.



Also:


#5 Baylor only beat Texas Tech by 4



This may be the craziest March Madness ever!



And the pollsters, IF the Mountaineers beat Texas A&M, probably will be scratching their heads trying to figure out where WVU belongs.

 

[Buster68_rivals]

If we beat tam, we should be about 12 or 13 with a good chance to finish in the top 10 and get a top 4 seed.

 

[Mtneer001]

Ken Pom has us in the top 5. Other RPI sites has us in the top 30. not sure which one is right.

 

[HugoStiglitz_rivals34223]

Id prefer a 11. We play to our opponents potential. The more good teams we play the better.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

Id prefer a 11. We play to our opponents potential. The more good teams we play the better.

History doesn't support your preference. Top 4 seeds make 84% of the Final Fours. 5 through 16 only made it 21 times compared to 107 times by top 4 seeds. I'll stay with #4 seed or higher for a FAR better chance of making the Final Four.


In 2016, #1 seed Kansas, #1 seed North Carolina, #2 seed Villanova, #6 seed Notre Dame made the Final Four.

The first round is when lower seeds do better. 19 higher seeds, 13 lower seeds won that round last year. After that, seeding seems to take over. In the 2nd round, higher seeds won 13, lost 3 games.

 

[KeatonsCorner]

Boy, did NOTRE DAME have a good game in that Final Four last season.......huh?

So good it made it seem like Oklahoma never should have even shown up


This team will be in the 4-7 seed range...

 

[HugoStiglitz_rivals34223]

I would just like to win the damn conference.

 

[wvpaper]

Lol. Higher seeded teams go further because they are typically better teams

Seed only matters in the first game. Although I would not want the 9 or 8 seeds.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

Boy, did NOTRE DAME have a good game in that Final Four last season.......huh?

So good it made it seem like Oklahoma never should have even shown up


This team will be in the 4-7 seed range...

Guilty as charged. I read the brackets wrong. I went back and fixed it, I think.

On the plus side, in golf I average 10 strokes less than my age for 18 holes this year. I'd like to see a 30 year old do that. No, it's not on a miniature golf layout.

 

[xWVU2010x]

Typically a 1-3 seed guarantees you a first round bye and nothing else. But then things like last year happen...

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

Typically a 1-3 seed guarantees you a first round bye and nothing else. But then things like last year happen...

The Final Four numbers don't support that. The top 4 seeds make the Final Four more than the rest of the seeds -- 61 times to 21 for #5 through #16.

How often each seed level reaches the Final Four:#1 seed 52 times
#2 seed 28 times
#3 seed 14 times
#4 seed 13 times
#5 seed 6 times
#6 seed 3 times
#7 seed 2 times
#8 seed 5 times
#9 seed 1 time
#10 seed 1 time
#11 seed 3 times
#12 through #16 seeds have NEVER made the Final Four.

 

[GoWVU]

I must've missed Kansas in the Final Four last year. My TV had Syracuse in their place.

You're getting way too sloppy with the fact-checking these days, Cuyahoga. :wink:

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

I must've missed Kansas in the Final Four last year. My TV had Syracuse in their place.

You're getting way too sloppy with the fact-checking these days, Cuyahoga. :wink:

Yeah, that used to be my strong suit, too. Hope I'm not headed the way of Mickey. I am pleasant to be around, though. And I'm one of the few people who can shoot 10 strokes below my age for 18 holes of golf. That's something, I guess. And I will love my alma mater even after I join my wife at Northlawn Memorial Gardens in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio. And enjoy them till I take the dirt nap.

 

[wvpaper]

So what you're trying to say is we want a 11 seed or better. Yeh that's right