Why the left hates ICE

[TigerRagRob]

 

[TigerRagRob]

 

[THE_DEVIL]

 

[Wobmam Rulez!]

But But But, communist, something something

 

[Wobmam Rulez!]

MAGA truly are racist, stupid POS's and they're proud of it.

 

[BrainVision]

I am on the left; this is not why I hate ICE.

 

[Yellowsnow51]

And yet the GOP controls everything. Weird. Maybe Dems forgot to tell the illegals this last time or something.

 

[TigerRagRob]

And yet the GOP controls everything. Weird. Maybe Dems forgot to tell the illegals this last time or something.

and yet you still believe in the gop and dnc narrative. People are waking up on both sides...

 

[Anon1750875978]

ICE is hated because most of the new hires are incompetent, poorly trained, and seem without supervision.

If they're racist pricks, that must just be coincidence.

 

[BelemNole]

Dang, and here all this time I thought I hated them for killing innocent people, raping women in detention, and treating tens of thousands like they were animals.

 

[Bonerfarts1]

ICE murders US citizens in the streets -

MAGA - "DEMS must not like ICE from those census results."

 

[Yellowsnow51]

and yet you still believe in the gop and dnc narrative. People are waking up on both sides...

You said “Illegals help Dems win”. Biden allowed a record number of illegals into the country…and the GOP swept the board. Therefore, illegals didn’t help Dems win. Not hard.

 

[alaskanseminole]

Don't take this the wrong way, but you strike me as a simpleton, Tiger.

I'd venture to say the reality is the vast majority are all for securing the border and enforcing immigration law. And fwiw, I do think the census counting "all" residents for apportionment is a legitimately debatable topic.

That said, your meme goes waaaaaay beyond that. If Democrats' entire power structure hinges on illegal immigrants and fraud, could you explain to the board how Republicans won the WH, both chambers of Congress and are making gains in states that have large immigrant populations? You can't have it both ways...argue that the Dems rely on illegal immigrants to win elections and explain away Republicans winning those same elections.

That really only leaves two possibilities, right? Either illegal immigration has far less impact on election outcomes than your cute little meme claims. OR Republicans are somehow overcoming this supposedly YUGE structural advantage.

The first explanation seems a lot more plausible to me. What say you?

 

[TigerRagRob]

Don't take this the wrong way, but you strike me as a simpleton, Tiger.

I'd venture to say the reality is the vast majority are all for securing the border and enforcing immigration law. And fwiw, I do think the census counting "all" residents for apportionment is a legitimately debatable topic.

That said, your meme goes waaaaaay beyond that. If Democrats' entire power structure hinges on illegal immigrants and fraud, could you explain to the board how Republicans won the WH, both chambers of Congress and are making gains in states that have large immigrant populations? You can't have it both ways...argue that the Dems rely on illegal immigrants to win elections and explain away Republicans winning those same elections.

That really only leaves two possibilities, right? Either illegal immigration has far less impact on election outcomes than your cute little meme claims. OR Republicans are somehow overcoming this supposedly YUGE structural advantage.

The first explanation seems a lot more plausible to me. What say you?

You strike me as a person that doesnt grasp the total concept of whats going on and has a very narrow point of view on the subject. Hakeem Jeffries pretty much admitted this on tv. But just to give you an idea of the plot, its not just votes they get but they also get to pad the House by counting illegals as voters. Cali would lose up to 5 districts if the population was adjusted to what it should be. Thats 5 seats the Dems would lose on the House...

 

[alaskanseminole]

You strike me as a person that doesnt grasp the total concept of whats going on and has a very narrow point of view on the subject. Hakeem Jeffries pretty much admitted this on tv. But just to give you an idea of the plot, its not just votes they get but they also get to pad the House by counting illegals as voters. Cali would lose up to 5 districts if the population was adjusted to what it should be. Thats 5 seats the Dems would lose on the House...

I understand the apportionment argument, hence why I said it's a legitimate topic for debate. But that wasn't my question. My question to the OP was, Democrats' power structure depends on illegal immigration then how did Republicans win the presidency, both chambers of Congress and are making gains in high-immigration states under the same rules?

Oh, and not to be nitpicky but since you called me out for not "grasping the total concept," one small correction...you said the census counts illegal immigrants as voters. It doesn't. The census counts persons for purposes of congressional apportionment, not voters.

 

[TigerRagRob]

I understand the apportionment argument, hence why I said it's a legitimate topic for debate. But that wasn't my question. My question to the OP was, Democrats' power structure depends on illegal immigration then how did Republicans win the presidency, both chambers of Congress and are making gains in high-immigration states under the same rules?

Oh, and not to be nitpicky but since you called me out for not "grasping the total concept," one small correction...you said the census counts illegal immigrants as voters. It doesn't. The census counts persons for purposes of congressional apportionment, not voters.

in some areas yes. The margins are small. When the Dems win by just over 10000 votes and after the election we discover there were 60000 illegal votes counted then yes it matters. Take away the seats that shouldnt be there to begin with the Dems can block the will of the people when they shouldnt be able too....