Some of the best mentors I had in high school were my gym teachers and coaches (often they were both). Some great lessons learned from my track coach after practice while bsing in the locker room. They were often the ones who had the flexibility to treat you like men.
Why not a Phys Ed major?
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Some of the best mentors I had in high school were my gym teachers and coaches (often they were both). Some great lessons learned from my track coach after practice while bsing in the locker room. They were often the ones who had the flexibility to treat you like men.
My 80-something year old gym teacher and high school football coach is an RU season ticket holder. He stops by our tailgate every week to check in on us. I consider him a friend at this point.
Just amazing. Obnoxious know-it-alls who get to sit in judgment of other peoples' life choices. Why the f--- would anyone care what someone else's kid chooses to major in?
Based on how knowledgeable they are about the path to "success", one would assume they are hugely successful captains of industry - in reality it's probably closer to non-value-added middle management.
Whatever.
"Why would anyone degrade this job?" The usual reasons: their own inadequacy and they don't put a value on being a good person who impacts others.
Department of Kinesiology and Health at Rutgers University
I think we do have one, essentially, you are just required to really work for it.
I think we do have one, essentially, you are just required to really work for it.
What's funny is they're also the most out of touch on the entire board. As if they have any fkn clue what today's college kids want or should study.
Miserable attention whores.
There are many ways to “get there” and lots of varied but fine definitions of what it means to “get there” or “succeed.” My undergrad at Rutgers was history and I believe it prepared me well for my RU MBA and my career in business. My kids were liberal arts majors at Rutgers, graduated three years ago, and both are making six figure salaries. My point is that while I think STEM is fine, it’s not the only path to whatever is one’s definition of personal “success.” I don’t have any comment on a physical education major but I believe teaching at any level is a fine profession if that is what one wishes to pursue.
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In 2018 there were 1500 PE teachers in NJ
13% made $100k or more
27% made $90k or more
42% made $80k or more
Math, science, English, PE...you're being paid at the same scale because you're a teacher. Give me the PE route over the Calculus route any day of the week
Sorry, don't believe you. PE/gym is the runt of the teaching litter and paid as such.
Piss off.
You are an absolute idiot.
Don’t know why anyone thinks their job makes them better than anyone else.
Wait a minute! I know a Mike Longo who is a retired teacher married to a retired PE teacher. That wouldn't be you, would it?
You don't need to believe me, continue being clueless. It's not like I pulled those numbers from my ***. It's all public information -- and you can even sort it by Physical Education!
Interesting question….I majored in Exercise Science, because I loved the subject matter. Had to take all the basic sciences…Bio, Physics, Calc, Chem, Orgo, before you even get into Systems Physiology and Exercise Physiology then then more specific human anatomy and sports/movement related classes in the major….I’m sure it’s easy for some and it was definitely not nearly as challenging as my friends in Engineering and Pharmacy schools. But you had to study…at least I did.
From an employment perspective I found it was a challenge earlier in my career as it didn’t line me up for anything in particular since I didn’t pursue graduate studies and wanted to work right away.
It took a long time work my way just in the door and start catching up, who knows if it was my major, the economy at the time, lack of network etc…
Now I’m actually in a position that is at the level I want to be at and in an industry where my degree is relevant (medical device supply chain) and my CEO cannot believe how much I know about anatomy.
So many years latter it is working out.
There you have it.
Sample size of 1 probably tells you everything right?
A good friend of mine is a middle school gym teacher in my home town in MA (I’m now temporarily in DC). He’s also the HS swim and cross country coach, which he loves. Makes above 100K. Out of work by 3 p.m., when he takes his dogs for long walks in the town forest. Many holidays and other days off, summers off, great benefits. I remember passing the athletic fields in front of the middle school while about to get on the highway to start my lengthy morning commute to Boston for my professional job, to return home at 8 p.m. I would see him on those athletic fields playing with the kids on a nice fall or spring morning and think that’s a pretty darn good gig.
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Really??
I went the route of the big major, was fortunate to get in at a big company, moved up the ranks, went back part time for a MBA, have the fancy job…
Honestly, if I could do it all again, I’d go the gym teacher and coach route. I know a few guys/girls who have done that, and it’s more rewarding, more fulfilling, and provides a life closer to what I would like my life at 42 years old to look like.
nothing at all wrong with being a gym teacher.
Gym teachers are the smartest people in my building. Same salary and benefits to play spike ball, and volley ball every day.
A lot of them that I know had the extra time to get a masters and whatever else they needed for administrative positions as well. Not to mention all of the extras they can get paid for- coaching, crowd control at sports events, summer camps, etc. Can make a killing if you hustle.
Have a buddy that makes $120k as a PE teacher and coaches basketball and lacrosse. He must make $130k-$140k a year with the added coaching duties and will receive an amazing pension along with health benefits. In the summer, he runs his own lax camp as well. What a great living!
Walk in with an empty briefcase, leave with an empty briefcase because there's virtually no papers to grade lol
They must have something similar. I knew a girl on the gymnastics team at Cook who graduated and became a PE teacher. I think she took most of her classes on Douglass.
Just checked her Linkedin and she has a BS in Education
I recall the gymnast saying the same thing anytime anyone made fun of her. Lots of science and bio classes
I know people in every department who do all of those things. We go home and grade essays, but the PE teachers..dont. Brilliant people.
Also our Functional Human Anatomy class required a ~14 week lab program where we got to disect two human cadavers. It was awesome. Supposedly (at the time at least) it was one of the few undergrads in the country that offered human cadavers.
A highlight of my time in School.
Will never forget the first time I walked in and smelled “the smell”.
Or the deafening silence from the room and ensuing chuckle when someone accidentally dropped a cerebellum on the floor.
Is the goal here to get easy majors for jucos and not having this major hurts us ?
If that’s the case , it needs to be fixed
If that’s the case , it needs to be fixed
very dissimilar... Sports Management as a job is basically Business Management (Player personnel management, organizational administration, cap management, events, contract analysis, legal, coaching, etc), I presume the major at Rutgers would be covering the same thing.
I heard many graduates of that program were placed into selling gym memberships and promotion departments . Not much personnel management, but I could be wrong
100% that’s what I’m saying. Plus, you get off in chunks when everyone else is off (vs when I take vacation, I’m never fully off)
AD positions as well. Plus it’s nice to be a part of the community, close to home.
Any JUCOs majoring in PE are effectively prevented from transferring to RU because many of their credits won’t be accepted. Even if they want to change majors to an RU degree program.
Ok so that should be addressed. But are guys at junior colleges actually declaring majors ? Aren’t most of these guys not lighting it in fire academically anyway ?
Hey now. I'm arrogant as hell (and a total douchebag to boot).
And I think PE majors and gym teachers are great and RU should offer a major in PE and a Masters and PhD in it, too.
The moral of my post being this: not all know-it-all arrogant douchebags are alike. Don't lump me in with those other jerks. I'm my own special kind of jerk.
Rutgers College definitely had a PE major back in the late 60's, my roommate was a PE major, it was actually a pretty tough curriculum, kinesiology, biology, physiology, looked more like a premed program than a phys Ed program he had a minor in math as well, played football and lacrosse as well. They also student taught their senior year. The program chair was a guy by the name of Mousha Mosston, the phys Ed majors eventually ended up at Cook/Douglass and the program went at least into the 80's, not sure if its still around but it was alive and well back then, but as mentioned above it was no cake walk