FSU fan but I’ve always liked Duke and watch 90% of the games. He’s killed you guys down the stretch the last two Saturday games. I know Alex O’Connellhas been sick but it seems like Grayson to PG and him at the 2/3 makes sense. At least in the last 10 minutes.
Why is Duval starting?
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Trevon kept us in the game today when he was allowed to attack the basket the last eight minutes of the game.
Alex O isn’t nearly as good and plays poorly on defense.
Allen was 1-7 today and played piss poor defense and offense.
Alex O isn’t nearly as good and plays poorly on defense.
Allen was 1-7 today and played piss poor defense and offense.
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How about you worry about what FSU is or isn't doing first off. Second thing, instead of watching 90% of Dukes games(if you say so) and trying to analyze, or take a shot at our freshman point guard, try watching 100% then you will probably see that it's just not Duke's freshman point guard costing Duke games. You will surely see one other player, who is playing at times worse then Duval, as well as some guys sitting on the bench who probably should get a few of the minutes. You must have missed a few games in which he was a huge part in Duke winning, like against your FSU team. Did that help you out? If not, you always have your board to talk about which one of Dukes players is costing the team. GTFO!!!!
You're right about Duval. He played well down the stretch.
I couldn't disagree with you more on Allen though. His defense isn't bad. There is something not right with him and the team, because he only took 4 shots the first 39 minutes.
How many screens do you see the other guys setting for him? If you watched the game, he stands on one side, will cut over but hardly ever be free. He needs to shoot more! I don't care what anybody else says, there is a big problem when a guy like him is only shooting 4 times during the main flow of the game.
For the hundredth time, we will go as far as #3 can take us. Wendell needs more touches too, and Bagley needs a few less.
Dude, WTF is wrong with you? Not only is it a reasonable question, but your reply was beyond obnoxious.
To Ignore you go.
Mac, couldn't agree with you more. We need Allen to get back to being himself.
Dude, WTF is wrong with you? He is a FSU fan, but his 2nd post is here talking about Duval costing us games. I could care less about 2 things. 1- your opinion of my reply to him. 2- You putting me on Ignore. I can assure you that I won't loose any sleep over it. Now get back over to RR and continue posting there. Seems you have a lot more post there than here.
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I really want to pull my hair out. Why is he taking so few shots? It's like watching a boxer just stand there and get popped repeatedly and do nothing, while his corner man begs him to punch back.
Trust me, I'm sure most if not all Duke fans are feeling the same way. I still believe at some point he's going to pull through and start being Grayson. It just seems like something is off with him. I still have faith that he will get it together. Love me some Grayson, and feel bad for the way he is playing his last year at Duke so far.
Don't look like we are going to go far because Grayson has looked pissed poor. Scoring wise he is giving us absolutely nothing. His defense and playmaking isn't good enough to overshadow his non scoring. Maybe Grayson should come off the bench and let Jack or O'Connell start. Just for a game to see if he can get a rhythm. Grayson isn't giving us much
Because Coach K says he's our starting pg and that's good enough for me. He makes mistakes like the rest of our team but if we do win the natty he will be a big part of the reason why. Don't even understand why you started the thread unless you want to troll a bit. It's a blown thread and troll. OFC
Dac, I've said the same thing, let him come off the bench and see if that works. He has no business playing 40 min (not sure anybody does) the way he is performing. He was outstanding last year coming off the bench providing that huge spark of energy and scoring ability. I still think he will pull it together before it's too late. Grayson is just to good of a player to stay in this funk all year. Duke truly needs him or we are in trouble.
Sky, if you read my post above, I treated him like a troll. Only 2 message's period and the second one is on a Duke board talking about how Duval cost us games. But yet he is a FSU fan and like duke. Wonder how many post he has on FSU's board? I'll go out on a limb and say maybe one.
Considering Nolebra Kai only has ONE post on DI, his post was definitely nothing more than a weak attempt at being a troll, especially since he started the thread over an hour ago and hasn’t made another post in the thread yet.
Pisgah, I thought so, but I was doing my research before I came to that conclusion.
I’m not a troll. I’m a big Duke fan. I read these boards weekly for years and like posts a lot. Coach K is my favorite coach in any sport. I didn’t get into Duke. Wish I had.
I’ve watched 90% of Duke’s game since ‘90. I was asking because although he is talented he made a poor pass last week against UVA that could have cost the game and today he misses clutch free throws.
Duke has two of the best big men in the country who create mismatches but most of the time they don’t have enough shooters on the floor.
K has been known to ride his starters. Just asking if getting Grayson time at the point like Scheyer in 2010 might he better down the stretch in games. At least Grayson can be counted on to make FTs late in games.
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Hey you a**! Don’t talk to him that way! Like he said why don’t you venture back over to RR and kiss a** to them like you do. U like to make fun of Duke an awful lot with them over there you jerk.
So you think Grayson needs to run the point in order to get to the free throw line late in games? lol
They are so sensitive over at RR. They’re quick to ban you over there. I’m glad this board is more laid back
The problem is not Duval. It's Grayson not being the focal point of the team.
I think you touched on something very important and interesting. I think Grayson thrives much more in a system like '16 when he's expected to carry much of the load. (his best overall year). Think of the adjustment from his sophomore year (alpha type along w/Brandon) to this season (senior captain but more of a facilitator to others w/exception of MSU game when Bagley got injured).
It would be difficult for anyone. I would submit his shots per game are probably down from what he's been used to, and consequently his ability to get in the flow of things offensively has suffered. Should we get him involved more by picking for him, calling his number in sets more? Should the low post (mostly Bagley) relocate to him on the wing more when he's doubled yet tries to take it anyway?
Sure Grayson took 3 shots in final 30 seconds, but what 4 in the first 39 minutes?
I think Duval does some tremendous things, and some not so smart things, but he's not the problem. I think we have about another month to get Grayson INVOLVED MORE, and that will tell the tale on how far we advance.
OFC
This is stupid. Duval is our starting PG because he is our best PG, and should be one of the best in the country, just needs to figure things out.
I'm at a loss with Grayson, I wont say his defense his terrible, but it's definitely below average. The issue is, I don't think our guys need a leader on offense, they are fine on that end, they need someone to lead them defensively, and I don't believe Grayson is the man for that job. Quinn was never a great defender (still was better than Grayson) but it seemed like he found a way to get the rest of the team to play team defense in 2015.
I'm at a loss with Grayson, I wont say his defense his terrible, but it's definitely below average. The issue is, I don't think our guys need a leader on offense, they are fine on that end, they need someone to lead them defensively, and I don't believe Grayson is the man for that job. Quinn was never a great defender (still was better than Grayson) but it seemed like he found a way to get the rest of the team to play team defense in 2015.
I know I will get hammered for this post. I don't post much but Allen needs to act like the Captain and leader of this team instead of acting like he is the freshman. I know K is the coach but Allen is the coach on the floor and need to get in their face and tell to get their head out of their *** and play ball.
Actually like goldwire better seems like our offense is just stagnant with duval most the time and so predictable with 1 on 1s ...yet we’re top 5 in offense! Man we could be good! Hope figure it out .
Allowed?! Lol his shots been horrible and can’t beat the D off the dribble like that ..when he gets to the basket the opposing team is well fumbling like we do on defense ...lol
Grayson’s defense no matter how bad you think has been some of the best on the team...think about that lol and our offense is stagnant with talent having to carry..looks like we can’t even play as a team there either! ...”let’s swing it around dangerously and try to get it to bagley “ ok I’ve let it out on to next
IPSYCHOSISm is right. It's like Duval only sees half of the court and we rarely swing the ball to the weak side of the court like we would do in previous years and that is where Grayson usually is.
I feel like the reason Grayson is still struggling is he is still fighting demons in his mind. Everywhere he goes except CIS he is booed and I think he is more focused on doing everything so right that he can’t be himself which is a very emotional and amped up player. If he starts being himself the crowd really gets on his back and rides his ***. I don’t know if he will get over this or not in college. It has to be hard knowing wherever you go play on the road you are under the microscope and opposing fans push your buttons trying to get you to snap. It’s pathetic but it’s the world we live in. It’s easy to sit here and post for him to get over it and play, but it’s not so easy living it.