Why do the parents like Duke?

[CarolinaCatsFan]

Because..

Brotherhood!

Set for Life!

Or.. something like that!

 

[CarolinaCatsFan]

Because if you choose Duke you can reclassify over a year early, finish all high school classes AND be academically eligible to a top tier academic university in the matter of like 19 days.

Just ask Bags

Yep no questions or Pat Forde articles either. Amazing.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

It may be speculation, but think of just HOW much speculation is around recruiting. You never end up finding out how far back schools 2, 3 and 4 were, or if they were even factors. We'll never for CERTAIN find out that a kid went to school inpart/mostly/entirely because of parents.

But to act like his Mom was pushing Bolden to Duke is laughable.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

Well, you’re wrong. Which isn’t exactly uncommon for you.

Fake news...

 

[tw3301]

I mean, that's not how the Bolden recruitment went down. Mama wanted Duke and he was certainly persuaded to some extent. That's not all recruits, but yes, it's confirmed to have happened.

confirmed where?

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Google it. Literally, three words: Duke, Bolden, Mom.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

***** practically collapsed in tears when he picked Duke.

I don't know why some of you are burying your heads in the sand. In fairness to Duke, it IS a great school, and Calipari is slandered to no end. I guess when I think about it, I'm not surprised that a layman would want their son to go to Duke.

But yes, it does happen. These rumors aren't coming from fans.. we're reading and hearing reports from writers and media members.

 

[morgousky]

Academics. Something like, 'If your son doesn't make the NBA, he'll still be set with a 4-yr degree from Duke'...

I don’t think they types of jobs where this would matter are looking to hire Duke basketball players. The basketball team doesn’t really have academic standards, if you can play ball you can get into Duke.

Notice there’s never a Duke fan to even try and dispute this. Duke has crazy admission standards before coach K became the head man. When he leaves it’ll be easier for a basketball player to get into Duke than a high school student with a 4.2 getting into Kentucky.

The issue is right now, coach K is selling a legacy and the kids to be a part of it. Cal missed the chance to sell this barely, but he still has time if he can put it together and win another title. Believe it or not, that really sells. Kids might not understand it now, but their parents do. It’s history. Simple as that.

So Duke is tough to recruit against right now. There’s always another program besides us in the journey. We are the only constant.

We need to slightly alter the amount of OAD’s and stabilize our roster with some needs and balance, we are so close to continuing Cals dynasty. Coach K will retire eventually and Duke will go back to moderate recruiting and success. Like many others before them.

It’s not about prestige. Kentucky sells excellent connections in the state, and you can always live in Lexington as a former player and do very well. Duke is a private city institution in a state that has lots of support in other areas.

 

[Blueblood410]

K puts on a facade and coddles the kids in front of the parents. Probably even reads from the bible.

Cal tells them the truth straight up.

 

[seccats04]

Lots of soccer moms on campus for the dads to flirt with? imp:

 

[Montana81]

They're selling a type of social status that UK can't.

I really believe that's the part of their pitch and "set for life" that cal hasn't figured out how to counter yet.

And there might not be a counter to it. I think he just has to hope when it's us or them it's the type of kid and family that won't go for that sort of thing.

The Patterson's come to mind. Obviously Knox and his dad. Quade Green. Didn't seem to work on Bamba either but I truly believe Texas did something dirty to get him.

 

[anon_013cn8yrfncx2]

One thing I have noticed when a kid picks Duke or is considering them you always here something along the lines of "the kid likes UK but the parents love Duke." Why? Surely these people can't believe the "set for life" crap from K. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

It's the Duke elitism. They see themselves in the stands as they've seen many other parents, some of them very high profile. Guaranteed they're selling "you're better than everyone else"

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

This right here

Terrence Jones initial decision proves both of you wrong.

 

[BoneToPick]

The irony is Capel would have been a much better player had Cal coached him.

 

[uky8unc5]

Dook is the closest to Ivy League you'll find south of the Mason Dixon Line. There is no denying that.
But when K retires, their basketball program will slide from the top tier pedestal.
That combo + Dookie V's love affair with the Crazie Crap explains the Dook appeal.

 

[Ben101er]

It's that quality education they get. What a bunch of baloney. Take Kyrie Irving. He takes all freshman courses, just like a freshman at Morehead would. English 101, American History, a math course, and some course of choice. Then he leaves to play basketball for a living, and when he wants to show off his Duke education, he tells everyone that the world is flat. Parents are idiots.

 

[ZakkW]

Academics, lol. They(Duke U) funnel these guys through some sketchy Sociology course major that ensures their eligibility. On one hand it's genius manipulation, on the other it's loosely akin to UNC's fraud. And any Dookie who says otherwise is full of ****.

And **** Duke...

 

[tw3301]

Google it. Literally, three words: Duke, Bolden, Mom.

I did, the only thing close to what you're saying is in this article and it also has quotes from Bolden saying he made the decision for him and the relationship with the Duke coaching staff was the deciding factor.

https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/hi...five-star-recruit-marques-bolden-commits-duke

 

[LineSkiCat14]

How do some of you have legitimate jobs (assuming you don't work at a gas station, which I'm not entirely sure isn't true) and lack this much critical thinking? How can you not see the forest through the trees?

A direct quote, from the Mom:

As a mother I want to support him, but I still gave him my thought and opinion.

There's no way you can read that and say his Mom 1. didn't have a clear preference. 2. didn't try, on some level to influence his decision and 3. said attempt didn't have some sort of success.

 

[BlueDevilWildcat]

It's that quality education they get. What a bunch of baloney. Take Kyrie Irving. He takes all freshman course, just like a freshman at Morehead would. English 101, American History, a math course, and some course of choice. Then he leaves to play basketball for a living, and when he wants to show off his Duke education, he tells everyone that the world is flat. Parents are idiots.

Ha, ha, this made me laugh. He really does think the world is flat. Or at least that it's never been proven to be otherwise. Then I read today he loves Brad Stevens because he's an intellectual. I can't imagine what torture those "intellectual" conversations are for Stevens...

 

[Hoskins91_rivals]

One thing I have noticed when a kid picks Duke or is considering them you always here something along the lines of "the kid likes UK but the parents love Duke." Why? Surely these people can't believe the "set for life" crap from K. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

Much better school, so parents who care about that obviously lean that way. They will have their fair share of good pros in the league, especially after this year. Plus a smart thing he’s done is not be so overt about the one and done thing, and acts like the idea of a “student-athlete” isn’t bs anymore. That helps his image with a lot of people.

 

[Ben101er]

Much better school, so parents who care about that obviously lean that way. They will have their fair share of good pros in the league, especially after this year. Plus a smart thing he’s done is not be so overt about the one and done thing, and acts like the idea of a “student-athlete” isn’t bs anymore. That helps his image with a lot of people.

But, that is the hypocrisy of it all. Much better school? Maybe, if they go to law, or medical school, but they are planning to be in the league after 2 semesters. Let's be honest, they are attending class to be eligible to play basketball, and English 101, for freshmen, is no different at Duke, than it is at UK, or a community college for that matter. It's all smoke and mirrors.

 

[BigKari]

They're selling a type of social status that UK can't.

I really believe that's the part of their pitch and "set for life" that cal hasn't figured out how to counter yet.

And there might not be a counter to it. I think he just has to hope when it's us or them it's the type of kid and family that won't go for that sort of thing.

The Patterson's come to mind. Obviously Knox and his dad. Quade Green. Didn't seem to work on Bamba either but I truly believe Texas did something dirty to get him.

Patterson's dad told me that he wanted Pat to go to Duke. They both really liked Tubby Smith though, but his mother adores Billy Donovan and she wanted him to go to Florida. This was a case of a young man who really respects his parents, I've spent time with the three of them and they are as close a family as one can imagine. But at the end of the day they let him make the decision and he was UK all the way.

 

[Mike-D]

K puts on a facade and cries to the kids in front of the parents. Probably even reads from the bible.

Cal tells them the truth straight up.

Fixed

 

[FLawLesS_NoLe]

They paint themselves as the complete package.

According to them, Cal and Kentucky only care about the NBA, whereas Duke can produce the top pick in the draft AND give you one of the best educations in the world and the opportunity to be part of a network of successful alumni.

It's a small, private school that probably makes parents feel safer, and it's impossible to deny the media coverage, protection, hype, etc. that comes with wearing the Duke jersey. Factor in playing for the best coach in the history of college basketball and it's quite a sell job.

Their major victory was convincing kids the NBA preparation is equal or close to equal. Once K embraced one and done and had success with it, they were going to be hard to recruit against.

Especially with the good cop/bad cop routine of K and Capel. The Saint keeps his hands clean and his image wholesome, Capel does the dirty work and spreads the lies and rumors.

Not to mention, it's a bit of a status symbol/upper class badge of honor.

Spot on. I believe this hit a lot of the changes that occurred.

 

[Cardsstink]

SOME parents are all about being able to tell their friends that their son goes to Duke. It's a selfish dynamic.

 

[DelkBowl]

The downward spiral of human depravity

 

[JoeBeeHall]

Ever visit the Hamptons? Ever visit there, mingle, and be told this lifestyle could be yours? That's Duke's basic pitch.

I go to the Hampton Inns does that count ?

 

[Cindog28]

I dunno... I have two sons. While I would LOVE for them to have a college degree (from anywhere), then I don't think either one of them would "feel those guys."

Btw... Here's an old article:

http://www.slate.com/articles/sport...n_the_history_of_blue_devils_basketball_.html