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Baller Cal

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The leader of The World Health Organization said on Feb 3. that there was no cause for alarm yet the The fake outrage crowd says Trump should have predicted the future, lol.
 

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That is actually only half true. The director of WHO stated that while they weren't directly offered, they were made aware that if test were needed that WHO would be able to supply them. This was at a time when we had no test, and ,still so now, while we still have an extreme shortage. It would have been a huge benefit to have them. Would have saved lives. So it was effectively refusing them.

Well, we never supported the herd immunity, that was the UK. Any moron could have told them that would be a disaster. I think they are figuring that out now. Since Trump declared a health emergency in January, I would say if there was a desire to utilize that method, it was abandoned before then.

But the government did ship aid. Both donated and provided by the federal government. You just seem to be ignoring the later like it would somehow really make a difference that the federal government still knowingly gave up aid to a foreign country it blames for starting all of this, and is actively blocking investigators and being uncooperative. It was also after we had confirmed cases of our own, a known shortage of supplies and a national health emergency with travel restrictions declared a week earlier. But yea, the fact some of the supplies were donated to the government who then donated them to China is fine.

Again, we were talking about a specific point in time, Feb 7. None of that medical aid was US Gov property, it was from private donors. That’s the date you stated, not me.

What type of immunity do you think we were going for before flattening the curve? That imperial college report is what started the panic of shutting down to flatten the curve.

The WHO did not offer tests to the CDC, and yes the CDC absolutely dropped the ball on testing.
 

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Trumps numbers have come back to where they were. They went up initially because he had convinced enough people at the time this wasn't that serious. However, after mounting evidence the contrary, he has since had to walk that back and admit more than 100,000 could die in the next few months alone. Also, his strongest campaign message of a strong economy is crashing and burning before his eyes. The only person undermining Trump is Trump himself.

Biden's numbers going up because every time he speaks he sounds like a leader with intelligent ideas and experience on handling a crisis like this. And that is saying something considering he isn't even that great of a speaker. However, he conveys empathy, respect, calmness, poise and leadership. That is what the country needs so badly.

Trump has failed every step of the way on this. Both sides have members who have tried to help and he hasn't listened or waited until it was too late. You can believe what you want, but the evidence proved something else entirely.

You lost all credibility on this post. Biden sounds like a leader. Really!! What version of Joe Biden have you been watching.
 
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The head of The WHO said on February 3rd that there was no cause for alarm......yet some are holding Trump to a higher standard than the leader of the World Health Organization. LOL! Trump haters are making fools of themselves (for the umpteenth time.)

Trump cultists never blaming Trump for anything (for the umpteenth time).

Soon, thousands of people will be dying daily from this in the United States. There will never be any honest introspection among the cultists over whether dear leader has any responsibility.
 
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We were always going to be impacted to a degree, but the impact could have been greatly weakened if competent leadership had been directing our response. Our leadership has failed us. It is why we currently have more cases than the 2nd and 3rd most countries combined. And that is very soon to be the next 3 combined. And we currently rank 3rd in overall deaths, quickly catching up to 2nd place.

If we can't control it, how are so many other countries like Singapore? South Korea? Germany? Canada? Austria? Australia? Russia? Japan? India? Mexico? Turkey? And those are just a few. Instead of admitting reality, you are convincing yourself that these other countries just aren't reporting accurately. But have you even considered that they are accurate? And that we are just an outlier because of our poor response time and effort? How will you feel about the administration and their response when that is the only logical conclusion left for you?

We have tested more than any nation. No, I don’t believe some of the other nations reporting, I know all nations aren’t reporting Covid deaths the same, we also don’t have all the data yet.
 

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Again, we were talking about a specific point in time, Feb 7. None of that medical aid was US Gov property, it was from private donors. That’s the date you stated, not me.

What type of immunity do you think we were going for before flattening the curve? That imperial college report is what started the panic of shutting down to flatten the curve.

The WHO did not offer tests to the CDC, and yes the CDC absolutely dropped the ball on testing.
By the 7th it was Chinese property. That is the same day the CDC said we were incredibly low and in need of supplies, like the ones we sent china 2 days earlier.

However, before that, it was in government control and all of it was property of the government as it had been given to them for disbursement. I have yet to see you provide any supporting evidence that says the donated portions were only allowed to be provided to China.... Not to mention a national health emergency had been declared a week prior, which gave the government the authority to decide regardless. As of course was already pointed out to you with sourced info from the health and human services departments website.
 

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I don't enjoy it as a whole, but I am content with watching it under this administration. A good number of the people who are most impacted by this are the same ones who rushed to the polls to vote for someone unqualified and unfit to lead a country. Now they are facing the repurcussions firsthand of piss poor decision making, and I am enjoying getting to witness that. I hope people will wise up and make better decisions for themselves and our country next time around.
Wow. All this time I thought New York, New Jersey and California were blue states.
 

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Trump cultists never blaming Trump for anything (for the umpteenth time).

Soon, thousands of people will be dying daily from this in the United States. There will never be any honest introspection among the cultists over whether dear leader has any responsibility.

Wrong. Get a damn candidate and I’ll vote for them. Your party is a JOKE. PS, what sick person would blame Trump for this and let China off the hook? Answer: all Democrats.
 
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By the 7th it was Chinese property. That is the same day the CDC said we were incredibly low and in need of supplies, like the ones we sent china 2 days earlier.

However, before that, it was in government control and all of it was property of the government as it had been given to them for disbursement. I have yet to see you provide any supporting evidence that says the donated portions were only allowed to be provided to China.... Not to mention a national health emergency had been declared a week prior, which gave the government the authority to decide regardless. As of course was already pointed out to you with sourced info from the health and human services departments website.

You are unbelievable, you were wrong and cannot admit it.
The medical aid was donated by the private sector to China. The US govt facilitated the transfer.
At that time their was no need for the US govt to commandeer private property.
There were 12 known cases in the US when that was sent. China stated they had over 30000 cases at that time.
 

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When is the hard facts of Russian conspiracy gonna come out and be revealed again?
What the hell does Russia have to with Trump's imcompetence in handling the Covid19 outbreak? Jesus Christ, you frauds are the worst! Yall put politics ahead of the well being of the country and even your own families health. That's a true cult!

People are losing their lives and all you guys care about is scoring political points. Keep drinking the Kool Aid.
 

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What the hell does Russia have to with Trump's imcompetence in handling the Covid19 outbreak? Jesus Christ, you frauds are the worst! Yall put politics ahead of the well being of the country and even your own families health. That's a true cult!

People are losing their lives and all you guys care about is scoring political points. Keep drinking the Kool Aid.

What incompetence? Don’t bother answering unless you got hard data.
 

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Democrats can lie and make up stuff and try to ruin your life but that doesn’t count to them. 2 sets of rules.
Still trying to score political points as people continue to die, people continue to sit unemployed with no end in sight, but who cares because Democrats.
 

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Trump cultists never blaming Trump for anything (for the umpteenth time).

Soon, thousands of people will be dying daily from this in the United States. There will never be any honest introspection among the cultists over whether dear leader has any responsibility.
Good thing the Dems were on top of this thing early taking it seriously...
 

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Good thing the Dems were on top of this thing early taking it seriously...

They were! They pointed out the racial insensitivity of closing the borders. 200,000 lives is such a small price to pay to be politically correct! After all, it’s mostly old people.

Yeah, that the unvarnished logical extension of what they said.
 
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What incompetence? Don’t bother answering unless you got hard data.
Minimizing a pandemic, calling it a hoax. Lying about everyone who needs a test can get a test. Not having mass testing or even a plan for mass testing and contract tracing months into this. Botching and changing small business loans and changing the languague at the last minute to the point that most small businesses are still SOL. The nepotism of using unqualified Jared Kushner in charge of the strategic stockpile, then editing the wording on the strategic stockpile website to hide his incompetence.

I know Trump is your god and you put him ahead of the well being of the country and your family and friends health, but I do not. Anyone who isnt a brainwashed cult member can see this incompetence, ignorance, and habitual lies from a mile away.
 

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Don’t present him with his own Hypocrisy. DEMS hate that.
My hypocrisy? He posted an article that had nothing to do with me but now its my hypocrisy? You guys got called out for put your god and his incompetence ahead of the country and your family and friends health so you're desperate to distract.
 

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Minimizing a pandemic, calling it a hoax. Lying about everyone who needs a test can get a test. Not having mass testing or even a plan for mass testing and contract tracing months into this. Botching and changing small business loans and changing the languague at the last minute to the point that most small businesses are still SOL. The nepotism of using unqualified Jared Kushner in charge of the strategic stockpile, then editing the wording on the strategic stockpile website to hide his incompetence.

I know Trump is your god and you put him ahead of the well being of the country and your family and friends health, but I do not. Anyone who isnt a brainwashed cult member can see this incompetence, ignorance, and habitual lies from a mile away.

Yeah, I said HARD data. If you are going to use the Dim party line, then I’ll say sure. Inciting blind panic in the population is so much more effective. Crash the stock market, create riots in the streets. That’s right up there with racial injustice at closing the border. You got any under ******** you’d like to offer?

Now shut the hell up unless you have hard data. The only early response was to burn Woohan after the first 2 cases.
 
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What the hell does Russia have to with Trump's imcompetence in handling the Covid19 outbreak? Jesus Christ, you frauds are the worst! Yall put politics ahead of the well being of the country and even your own families health. That's a true cult!

People are losing their lives and all you guys care about is scoring political points. Keep drinking the Kool Aid.

Your hilarious, they had him convicted before they thought of any good evidence. A true cult is blindly following a political party I agree, such as saying he colluded before even swearing in the President and promising hard indisputable evidence yet never producing it years and millions late, talking so badly about the President of the United States. Seriously Democrats are saying m'fu#$er on tv and that screams best interest of the American public to you? Saying hes incompetent, spending 22 million dollars and yet producing nothing to show the American people. Don't accuse me of being in a cult, I think for my self, had the democrats produced valuable evidence then I'd say bring up impeachment charges but that's clearly not what happened. What happened was Schiffie boy wanted it all about him, not being professional leaders of the USA. Another example is saying this is his fault when Democrats wanna put in money for abortions in relief fund and threaten to veto, or going on vacation for a week during a pandemic, seriously wtf and then complain Trump took to long to do things. How about noticing Obama had the swine flu happen on his watch but never ensured this would happen again by stockpiling more mask, ventilators etc.

Listen I said I was gonna bow out but clearly this thread will be locked soon so if you wanna cry over elections gone wrong go ahead but all the Dem elected officials wanna do is wanna point fingers and clip sound bites hoping people follow them blindly. Theres a reason MSNBC and CNN ratings are obliterated by Fox, people are moving out of California at a record rate, people leaving the democratic party like it's a sinking ship, and Democrats are promising free money and health care to illegal aliens, which your kids wont be able to get for free. It's called buying votes and truth be told I dont care what party wins if they have our best interest at heart. If only the Democrats had a better product to sell they wouldnt need to buy votes with the illegal immigrants.
 
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Yeah, fake outrage. Hundreds of thousands of people projected to die isn't something one should be outraged about. You cult members are something else.

Fauci said on Jan 21 that the virus was NOT an immediate threat to the US, but Trump should have had more knowledge on the subject than him, right? Your TDS is sad. Funny but sad. Let’s run it back for four more years, lmao.
 

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Your hilarious, they had him convicted before they thought of any good evidence. A true cult is blindly following a political party I agree, such as saying he colluded before even swearing in the President and promising hard indisputable evidence yet never producing it years and millions late, talking so badly about the President of the United States. Seriously Democrats are saying m'fu#$er on tv and that screams best interest of the American public to you? Saying hes incompetent, spending 22 million dollars and yet producing nothing to show the American people. Don't accuse me of being in a cult, I think for my self, had the democrats produced valuable evidence then I'd say bring up impeachment charges but that's clearly not what happened. What happened was Schiffie boy wanted it all about him, not being professional leaders of the USA. Another example is saying this is his fault when Democrats wanna put in money for abortions in relief fund and threaten to veto, or going on vacation for a week during a pandemic, seriously wtf and then complain Trump took to long to do things. How about noticing Obama had the swine flu happen on his watch but never ensured this would happen again by stockpiling more mask, ventilators etc.

Listen I said I was gonna bow out but clearly this thread will be locked soon so if you wanna cry over elections gone wrong go ahead but all the Dem elected officials wanna do is wanna point fingers and clip sound bites hoping people follow them blindly. Theres a reason MSNBC and CNN ratings are obliterated by Fox, people are moving out of California at a record rate, and people leaving the democratic party like it's a sinking ship.

He’s a sore loser. Fun to watch!
 
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Yeah, I said HARD data. If you are going to use the Dim party line, then I’ll say sure. Inciting blind panic in the population is so much more effective. Crash the stock market, create riots in the streets. That’s right up there with racial injustice at closing the border. You got any under ******** you’d like to offer?

Now shut the hell up unless you have hard data. The only early response was to burn Woohan after the first 2 cases.
It is hard data, you just don't want to accept it because you worship an ignorant fat orange makeup wearing habitual lying buffoon who is incompetent at his job and is costing people their lives. Weird hero.

He knows you're a cult member, thats why he says he could shoot a man on 5th Avenue and not lose any supporters. When you're a brainwashed cult member you will support lies, incompetence, and even him shooting a man on 5th Avenue. You even put him ahead of the health and well being of your family and friends.

He absolutely downplayed this for weeks, causing his cult members to repeat the lie and put people in danger. We're months into this and there's still no real plan to combat this other than mixed messagung of some people quarantine, some people not quarantine, some wear a mask, some don't, some maybe wear a scarf. This is all a big joke and his incompetence is unacceptable to real Americans.
 
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Good thing the Dems were on top of this thing early taking it seriously...

Dems are bad too. Both things are true. When this is all said and done, Trump will have presided over one of the worst disasters (quite possibly the worst when you consider physical + economic devastation) the country has ever seen. He downplayed it for weeks/months. Constant shifting of strategy ("Let's open up the country by Easter"), dumbass arguments with governors, blaming states for not being prepared...

The single worst "leader" in the history of the American presidency.
 
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It is hard data, you just don't want to accept it because you worship an ignorant fat orange makeup wearing habitual lying buffoon who is incompetent at his job and is costing people their lives. Weird hero.

He knows you're a cult member, thats why he says he could shoot a man on 5th Avenue and not lose any supporters. When you're a brainwashed cult member you will support lies, incompetence, and even him shooting a man on 5th Avenue. You even put him ahead of the health and well being of your family and friends.

He absolutely downplayed this for weeks, causing his cult members to repeat the lie and put people in danger. We're months into this and there's still no real plan to combat this other than mixed messagung of some people quarantine, some people not quarantine, some wear a mask, some don't, some maybe wear a scarf. This is all a big joke and his incompetence is unacceptable to real Americans.

This will never sink into their brains. They are blinded by party loyalty. Doesn't matter how many examples you give them or even Trump's own words. Won't make any difference.
 
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He’s a sore loser. Fun to watch!
We're all losing. I know this is a game between Democrats and Republicans to you sheep who were manipulated and bought into the tribal war, but there are no winners. Lives being lost, hospital systems being overwhelmed, millions out of work, stock market and retirement funds crashing, and you think there's a winner and a loser. That's how brainwashed they have you.
 

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What is our national strategy to get through this? Can anyone answer? What is the plan to save lives and get people back to work?
 

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We're all losing. I know this is a game between Democrats and Republicans to you sheep who were manipulated and bought into the tribal war, but there are no winners. Lives being lost, hospital systems being overwhelmed, millions out of work, stock market and retirement fund crashing, and you think there's a winner and a loser. That's how brainwashed they have you.

I literally said I was bowing out and you replied with name calling. SmH
 
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We're all losing. I know this is a game between Democrats and Republicans to you sheep who were manipulated and bought into the tribal war, but there are no winners. Lives being lost, hospital systems being overwhelmed, millions out of work, stock market and retirement fund crashing, and you think there's a winner and a loser. That's how brainwashed they have you.

Are you on drugs as you type tonight? I mean this with all sincerity as you sound just like a crackhead on the corner trying to peddle a conspiracy theory. Are you OK?
 

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It is hard data, you just don't want to accept it because you worship an ignorant fat orange makeup wearing habitual lying buffoon who is incompetent at his job and is costing people their lives. Weird hero.

He knows you're a cult member, thats why he says he could shoot a man on 5th Avenue and not lose any supporters. When you're a brainwashed cult member you will support lies, incompetence, and even him shooting a man on 5th Avenue. You even put him ahead of the health and well being of your family and friends.

He absolutely downplayed this for weeks, causing his cult members to repeat the lie and put people in danger. We're months into this and there's still no real plan to combat this other than mixed messagung of some people quarantine, some people not quarantine, some wear a mask, some don't, some maybe wear a scarf. This is all a big joke and his incompetence is unacceptable to real Americans.

No it’s junk science dude. You eat it up. I know. I’m a scientist myself. Your interpretation is a laughing stock. Your over simplistic platitudes are killing people world wide and damaging the economy for years. Because you are simple minded and but into ********. This issue is clearly vastly more complex than can comprehend.
 

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Are you on drugs as you type tonight? I mean this with all sincerity as you sound just like a crackhead on the corner trying to peddle a conspiracy theory. Are you OK?
Nope, I dont do drugs and I don't even drink. I am hopped up on Diet Mtn Dew but that doesn't prevent me from seeing whats in plain sight. Trump poor handling of this and continued incompetence that is costing American lives and hardships.
 

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What is our national strategy to get through this? Can anyone answer? What is the plan to save lives and get people back to work?

What we need is clearly another commission with subpoena power for Schiff and Pelosi right now. That'll fix everything because the 5 they wrote into the relief clearly wasn't enough.
 
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This will never sink into their brains. They are blinded by party loyalty. Doesn't matter how many examples you give them or even Trump's own words. Won't make any difference.

What’s funny is losers blaming Trump for this when Fauci said there was no immediate threat to Americans in January and The World Health Organization said the same in February. There’s nothing more disgusting than people acting like they give a dam about people dying when in reality they blindly hate the President.
 

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No it’s junk science dude. You eat it up. I know. I’m a scientist myself. Your interpretation is a laughing stock. Your over simplistic platitudes are killing people world wide and damaging the economy for years. Because you are simple minded and but into ********. This issue is clearly vastly more complex than can comprehend.
The plan to get out is too complex for my simple mind too. Can you explain the plan to me like in a 12 year old?
 
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