Whoever "MSU Uniform Tracker" is on Twitter

[57stratdawg]

Will have a breakdown of Nike vs ADIDAS later today. Taking into account $$$ and exposure.

Could be an interesting read if he can find good information.

 

[codeDawg]

Will have a breakdown of Nike vs ADIDAS later today. Taking into account $$$ and exposure.

Could be an interesting read if he can find good information.

If the answer isn't Adidas is the far and away best option for MSU, then the analysis is wrong.

MSU is an important school to Adidas. We're just another school to Nike. Adidas is becoming an important part of our success.

 

[ArcherSPS]

Ben Howland + Adidas = Life

 

[57stratdawg]

I agree. No complaints here with the Football uniforms we wore last year. Baseball is fine too.

 

[Bulldogg31]

We could wear potato sacks and cowboy boots for all I care as long as we win.

 

[tatedog]

We could wear potato sacks and cowboy boots for all I care as long as we win.

As long as the potato sack is black I'm good with it.

 

[pscf3]

Working on it as we speak.

 

[thepalehorse]

Ben Howland + Adidas = Life

Yep exactly.

 

[pscf3]

Here it is:

http://msuunitracker.blogspot.com/2015/06/nike-vs-adidas-which-supplier-is-better.html

 

[57stratdawg]

Good stuff. I think that spills it out pretty well.

I have no complaints with:

 

[ChillbillyRock]

Here it is:

http://msuunitracker.blogspot.com/2015/06/nike-vs-adidas-which-supplier-is-better.html

Well said. I pretty much agree with all of it. I also heard that after our F--k Tsun fiasco, Adidas paid us an ungodly amount, making us the TOP dawg in the country, including Nike schools. If someone can get the scoop on that, I'd love to hear the details.

 

[ChillbillyRock]

Well said. I pretty much agree with all of it. I also heard that after our F--k Tsun fiasco, Adidas paid us an ungodly amount, making us the TOP dawg in the country, including Nike schools. If someone can get the scoop on that, I'd love to hear the details.

Except Oregon of course.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

Mmm. Arizona State will be getting over $4 million yearly from Adidas until 2023 when its contract begins next month.

 

[121Josey]

But the article didn't mention that this was originally a Nike concept. For the record, I have no problem with the MState on the bottoms. I fully believe that ADIDAS could have done worse.

 

[ArcherSPS]

You heard wrong. Do you honestly believe we're getting more money than Duke in hoops? What about UNC ? Our fans believe anything.

 

[pscf3]

But the article didn't mention that this was originally a Nike concept. For the record, I have no problem with the MState on the bottoms. I fully believe that ADIDAS could have done worse.

Well, yeah, but that's not the point. I think everyone agrees that Nike is cooler, better at designs, etc.... The point of the article was to show why we're sticking with Adidas regardless.

 

[Shamoan]

maybe signing with umbro could really bring their brand back.**

 

[121Josey]

Well, yeah, but that's not the point. I think everyone agrees that Nike is cooler, better at designs, etc.... The point of the article was to show why we're sticking with Adidas regardless.

When I buy clothes, I want that 1) they look good and 2) are good quality for the price. The inverse ADIDAS argument is that we are paying less (i.e., taking more money) for cheaper quality (worse designs, lagging tech). Where is the point where they offer State something of quality - that Nike hasn't already designed and not named Ben Howland - to keep State pimping their logo.

My argument is that ADIDAS is batting somewhere around the Mendoza line on offerings to State. And when you compare what other schools are getting from ADIDAS, I'm not sold that we're getting a good deal. Alas, that was not the point of your argument.

 

[ChillbillyRock]

You heard wrong. Do you honestly believe we're getting more money than Duke in hoops? What about UNC ? Our fans believe anything.

i did hear wrong. It was only Adidas. ... Making us their #1 school.

 

[ArcherSPS]

You are out your mind if you believe that, dude. Do you really think we're over Indiana, Lville, and UCLA in basketball? In football we've got TAMU, UCLA, ASU above us. We are not their number one school. We're high up, but not number one.

 

[JacksonTiger.sixpack]

I think these deals are a lot more complicated. It's not a straight cash payout or free crap. And, even though this article is a couple of years old, there are some teams with ginormous deals (Michigan's Adidas deal $67 mil for 8 years). Outside of Oregon's deal with Nike, I've got to think that the contracts are influenced in part by the amount of apparel the schools can sell.

http://www.lsureveille.com/sports/f...cle_d321c354-65e0-11e2-a0d4-0019bb30f31a.html

 

[Dawgg]

Well, yeah, but that's not the point. I think everyone agrees that Nike is cooler, better at designs, etc.... The point of the article was to show why we're sticking with Adidas regardless.

Actually, I don't agree with that. I think Nike has come up with some pretty hideous uniforms and accessories over the years and were really the ones that got the 'alternate' uniform thing started.

 

[Thrl595]

Champion unis and Bike helmets**

 

[Sam Adams Dog]

The last 16 years, only one non-nike school, Auburn has won a championship


Adidas gave us TAM leftovers. We basically got the same stuff as them. Two schools in the same division and we/they couldnt come up with something more "MSU"'. The how many unis can we wear in a season makes us look like we just got cable.

 

[dawgstudent]

If Adidas makes us the most $$ - I'm fine with staying them. But the funny thing about Adidas - I think everyone can agree that our favorite uniforms they have provided are last year's home jerseys. Which is based off a Nike design.

 

[ChillbillyRock]

You are out your mind if you believe that, dude. Do you really think we're over Indiana, Lville, and UCLA in basketball? In football we've got TAMU, UCLA, ASU above us. We are not their number one school. We're high up, but not number one.

Lol, No need to get erect, dude. I never said I believed it. Just wondered if we were their #1 baby now after that F--K TSUN stunt. Considering the severity of that incident, it doesnt seem one would have to be "out of his mind" to believe its in the realm of possibility. I was curious if anyone simply had the FACTS on the matter.

 

[ArcherSPS]

So you think that situation would jump us above UCLA and Texas A&M? It's all about merchandise sales. They wouldn't make us their #1 priority just because of a t shirt in sport that literally just the south tends to care about.

 

[ChillbillyRock]

So you think that situation would jump us above UCLA and Texas A&M? It's all about merchandise sales. They wouldn't make us their #1 priority just because of a t shirt in sport that literally just the south tends to care about.

Well, could you at least shine some light on just a few things you guys discussed at your last Adidas Board Meeting? You don't have to expose everything, obviously (I'm sure you signed an agreement of some sort) and I sure don't want you to risk your job. Besides, I doubt the Merchandising/Sales Dept. at Adidas even reads this board. Maybe some key notes?

 

[ArcherSPS]

I want you to go to the Adidas website and look around and count how much UCLA, A&M, IU, and Nebraska gear you see that we don't get. We've been their number one baseball program for a while obviously but we aren't their #1 athletic program. just look at numbers of students enrolled at those schools or look at the winning traditions they have that we don't. If you believe UCLA (a national brand) is below Mississippi State (a regional brand) then you're being obtuse as ****.
ETA: Go to the adidas website and search Mississippi State, UCLA, Nebraska, and Texas A&M. Count how many MSU products you find. I'll give you a hint and you wont find anything MSU on the adidas site.

 

[archdog]

The last 16 years, only one non-nike school, Auburn has won a championship


Adidas gave us TAM leftovers. We basically got the same stuff as them. Two schools in the same division and we/they couldnt come up with something more "MSU"'. The how many unis can we wear in a season makes us look like we just got cable.

The number of uniforms alternatives do make me feel like we just got cable and the guy across the street has DirecTV. I am not a big fan of the uniform changes every game. Just give us a maroon setup, white setup, and a dark grey setup with maroon stripes. Call it a day. Where the grey's against the no name schools. Where our standard on high profile games because I want to watch those over and over again and I want us to look like MSU.

Let's get the equipment in order so our running backs don't slip making a cut 4 times a game. We do not need to waste downs and get out of rhythm because our cleats are not set up appropriately for the turf. Now if the RB is clumbsy and can't handle a cut without slipping, take them out of the game.

 

[Palos verdes]

Any State fan that wants us to move from Adidas to Nike at this point is an idiot.

 

[pscf3]

Interesting note: According to Bjork on H2H, Ole Miss is looking to almost double their $2.05M /year contract. That would change the Nike vs Adidas argument substantially from a $$$$ perspective. (We get $2.5M a year until 2020.)

 

[Bucksnort_Dawg]

What are the odds we get to switch our baseball equipment manufacturer? Ie: Wilson/DeMarini, Easton, Louisville Slugger.

 

[pscf3]

What are the odds we get to switch our baseball equipment manufacturer? Ie: Wilson/DeMarini, Easton, Louisville Slugger.

No, but we can use any of the bats you mentioned if we wanted to. Players (or at least the ones the past two years) preferred Adidas.

 

[uptowndawg]

I've always assumed schools have contracts with bat manufacturers to only use their bats. I've never actually seen a contract, but when you look at how every college baseball team in america only uses one brand of bat it's hard to think otherwise.

 

[Bucksnort_Dawg]

I've always assumed schools have contracts with bat manufacturers to only use their bats. I've never actually seen a contract, but when you look at how every college baseball team in america only uses one brand of bat it's hard to think otherwise.

That's assumption I am under. I would love to see a change in the brand of equipment. Maybe it does nothing for our program. But it's worth a try.