Who took over a worse program? Ben or Vic?

[Walter White.sixpack]

Neither program was in good shape. But who has had the harder job?

 

[The Usual Suspect]

Neither program was in good shape. But who has had the harder job?

Historically Vic did. Our women's program was terrible forever. Our record vs OM was abysmal before Vic got here.

 

[dickiedawg]

Women were 2 years removed from back-to-back tournament appearances, including a sweet 16. No comparison to the abyss the men's team was in.

ETA: There was no history of real success whatsoever though, so for Vic to get us to the level we're at is really miraculous.

 

[skydawg1]

Ben, all day.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Ben did and it’s not even close. Go look at that roster Ray left him with.

 

[Seinfeld]

Definitely Ben, but it’s not like their accomplishments since taking over are even in the same stratosphere at the moment.

 

[Drewbowski]

the fact ask you makes me think you are trolling

 

[MSUDC11]

Women were 2 years removed from back-to-back tournament appearances, including a sweet 16. No comparison to the abyss the men's team was in.

ETA: There was no history of real success whatsoever though, so for Vic to get us to the level we're at is really miraculous.

I actually think the situations are closer than most realize. Yes the women were in the Sweet 16 in 2010 but that group was long gone by the time Schaefer arrived, and Sharon Fanning’s last two teams were horrendous, as were her last couple of recruiting classes.

Howland didn’t inherit a good roster but at least he had Sword, Ware, and Q. Vic inherited one quality talent in Martha Alwal, another decent talent in Kendra Grant, and then basically a SWAC roster elsewhere. Nobody was paying attention to the women from 2011-2014 but they were every bit as bad as the men until Vic’s second year. The WNIT run was a spark that year and then Vivians and that class changed everything.

Both inherited a mess though, no doubt.

 

[GTAdawg]

Ben by a mile. I couldn’t for the life of me figure out at the time why he wanted to dead end his career here.

 

[jdbulldog]

Ben. Remember Rick Ray?

 

[mount lefroy]

Neither program was in good shape. But who has had the harder job?

Ben