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Gunny46

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So you denigrate the working class and now members of the military?

There are plenty of people who had non combat arms jobs in the military. That's actually the majority of the military. We tease each other however we all respect each other. Boot camp and recruit training isn't the hardest thing I had to do. Fat boy sandwich salesman should stay in his lane.
 
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atlkvb

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Taxes - I don’t get benefits from the government, I’m in the top 3% and I pay what is owed. I would rather pay a fair share and see more investment into helping more American communities to become more independent and self supportive.

This is a lie. Communists/Socialists/Leftists/racists favor massive income redistribution in the form of confiscatory taxation of the highest wage earners. If you support that, you do not disagree with them!

What by the way is stopping you from sending in larger portions of your "fair share"? You are not restricted from volunteering whatever additional amount you are ready to vote for Joe Biden to confiscate.
 

atlkvb

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No, just the ones I don’t have respect for and who come at me first.....

You came onto this forum calling names and insulting people strictly based on the opinions they expressed which you disagreed with. You're no paragon of virtue. Plus you lie.
 

dedhoops24

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There are plenty of people who had non combat arms jobs in the military. That's actually the majority of the military. We tease each other however we all respect each other. Boot camp isn't the hardest thing I had to do. Fat boy pretzel seller should stay in his lane.

Respect is earned, not given. I promise you I would take your best shot.
 

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No, just the ones I don’t have respect for and who come at me first.....

You need to stop being a cry baby. Atl is right. You run your mouth calling people names and then get mad when people give it back to you. You need to keep your Focus
 

Gunny46

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No, just the ones I don’t have respect for and who come at me first.....

Tell me about you're military experience. That's right you don't have any. I love the "my friend told me" stories. They're real exciting. (farting sound)
 
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dedhoops24

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This is a lie. Communists/Socialists/Leftists/racists favor massive income redistribution in the form of confiscatory taxation of the highest wage earners. If you support that, you do not disagree with them!

What by the way is stopping you from sending in larger portions of your "fair share"? You are not restricted from volunteering whatever additional amount you are ready to vote for Joe Biden to confiscate.

Yawn! I have no problem paying what is owed by my tax bracket....I don’t need a tax break from Trump to give me an extra 8-10% when that money can be used for other things that help other people....
 

dedhoops24

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He drives a "used vehicle" and makes fun of folks who buy them. [eyeroll]

The last used vehicle I purchased was a Jeep Grand Cherokee from a dealership in Moon Township, PA in 2000....

Nothing against used cars though.....
 

atlkvb

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Abortion - I am pro-life. My ex wife had theee miscarriages and going through that affected my life greatly. There are too many good people in this country who are childless who would adopt in a heartbeat.

This is a lie. You said you are not a "Religious ", so may I assume you do not believe Human Life is sacred, created by Almighty God and worthy of protection? So then on what basis are you "Pro Life" which by definition means innocent Human Life created by Almighty God is to be protected regardless of the circumstances of birth? You said it's because your Wife had 3 miscarriages correct? So what about perfectly healthy babies who's mothers do not want them? You'd still favor restricting their legal right to kill those unwanted Children? Correct?
 

Gunny46

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Respect is earned, not given. I promise you I would take your best shot.

No you couldn't. You wouldn't last 10 seconds. You're disappointed wife knows what I'm talking about. Take your respect and shove it up your ***. I don't need your approval limpdick.
 

dedhoops24

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Tell me about you're military experience. That's right you don't have any. I love the my friend told me stories. They're real exciting. (farting sound)

Correct, I did not serve. My father, two uncles and both grandfathers did though. They dream for me was to go to college and create a new life, I’ve honored them by doing that.

I have many friends I grew up with who served, some gave the ultimate sacrifice, I respect them and love them for their service. Not some guy on a message board who wants everyone to think he was a warrior and talks **** and nonsense to anyone and everyone.....
 

atlkvb

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Yawn! I have no problem paying what is owed by my tax bracket....I don’t need a tax break from Trump to give me an extra 8-10% when that money can be used for other things that help other people....

Liar! You kept every penny of every legal tax break you were allowed to claim under Trump, and I 100% guarantee your lying *** didn't send in a dime extra! You probably claimed more than you can legally prove too.

So if you don't mind paying a "little more" why aren't you sending it in?

Because you're a liar. (And a Socialist income redistributionist who favors the Government confiscating someone's else's money besides your own)
 

dedhoops24

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This is a lie. You said you are not a "Religious ", so may I assume you do not believe Human Life is sacred, created by Almighty God and worthy of protection? So then on what basis are you "Pro Life" which by definition means innocent Human Life is to be protected regardless of the circumstances of birth? You said it's because your Wife had 3 miscarriages correct? So what about perfectly healthy babies who's mothers do not want them? You'd still favor restricting their legal right to kill those unwanted Children? Correct?

Yes, I would rather see those children brought to term, delivered and then adopted to good, loving families willing to create a life for that child.
 

Gunny46

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Correct, I did not serve. My father, two uncles and both grandfathers did though. They dream for me was to go to college and create a new life, I’ve honored them by doing that.

I have many friends I grew up with who served, some gave the ultimate sacrifice, I respect them and love them for their service. Not some guy on a message board who wants everyone to think he was a warrior and talks **** and nonsense to anyone and everyone.....

I did both fatboy. So has many others. Just say you didn't want to serve. It's ok. You bought up my service without any real experience to discuss it. So go screw yourself.
 
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atlkvb

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Yes, I would rather see those children brought to term, delivered and then adopted to good, loving families willing to create a life for that child.

So you disagree with the radical "abortion on demand" Left? You favor de-funding Planned Parenthood? You do not believe abortion is a "choice" but is murder? You'd favor a Human Life amendment to the Constitution?
 

dedhoops24

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Liar! You kept every penny of every legal tax break you were allowed to claim under Trump, and I 100% guarantee your lying *** didn't send in a dime extra! You probably claimed more than you can legally prove too.

So if you don't mind paying a "little more" why aren't you sending it in?

Because you're a liar. (And a Socialist income redistributionist who favors the Government confiscating someone's else's money besides your own)

Now I understand why you have risen to the level of used car salesman.....why would I pay more that I am legally responsible for? I don’t ask for tax breaks and I don’t need tax breaks, I am fine paying the required legally mandated amount. Any money I do save, I typically make donations to organizations like St. Jude, Shriners Hospital and Habitat for Humanity
 

atlkvb

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The last used vehicle I purchased was a Jeep Grand Cherokee from a dealership in Moon Township, PA in 2000....

Nothing against used cars though.....

Then why are you mocking how I earn a living? I told you I do not sell "used vehicles". If that's a bad thing, then why are you driving one?
 
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dedhoops24

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So you disagree with the radical "abortion on demand" Left? You favor de-funding Planned Parenthood? You do not believe abortion is a "choice" but is murder? You'd favor a Human Life amendment to the Constitution?

I would never personally support the abortion of an unborn child, unless risk of death for the mother is involved.
 

atlkvb

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why would I pay more that I am legally responsible for?

Because you're willing to vote for additional income confiscation! Your upcoming vote for Joe Biden is a vote to siphon even more out of your own pocket. You are a fool and a coward. Why give him permission to legally steal money away from you when you can just voluntarily send the additional amounts in?

As I said, you are either a fool or a fork tongued liar.
 

atlkvb

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I would never personally support the abortion of an unborn child, unless risk of death for the mother is involved.

You said you don't personally support the abortion of an unborn child. Fine. That's not my question though. Is it something you oppose with your vote? Is it something you disagree with the radical Left over, and would vote to stop or eliminate?

Lie some more.
 

dedhoops24

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Because you're willing to vote for additional income confiscation! Your upcoming vote for Joe Biden is a vote to siphon even more out of your own pocket. You are a fool and a coward. Why give him permission to legally steal money away from you when you can just voluntarily send the additional amounts in?

As I said, you are either a fool or a fork tongued liar.

I am not voting for Joe Biden because I believe in his beliefs and his policies. I am voting to remove DJT who I believe is a horrible human being and has done so much damage to the fabric of our society that it may take a generation to resolve.....I am an American first, I am not bound to a party or belief system other than my own...
 

atlkvb

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Why are you "Pro Life"? Why can't you explain yourself on that issue? Is Human Life created? Sacred?
 

atlkvb

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I am not voting for Joe Biden because I believe in his beliefs and his policies. I am voting to remove DJT who I believe is a horrible human being and has done so much damage to the fabric of our society that it may take a generation to resolve.....I am an American first, I am not bound to a party or belief system other than my own...

Joe Biden is not Pro Life. Trump is. If that issue is as important to you as you claim, there is NO WAY you hate Trump more than you value innocent Human Life. NO WAY!!!!

Stop your lying.
 

dedhoops24

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Then why do you vote for it?

Lie some more.

I can see why you are such a good used car salesman and how you frustrate the real liberals on this board. You focus on specific topics and try to make your points versus the person you are debating on that specific topic. Here is where I am different, I understand that NO politician or Party is perfect and their will also be certain topics and beliefs that as a person, have to sacrifice on because of the greater focus....this election is exactly that.....you are trying to pin people into a box by specific belief.....that’s the wrong way to look at this election...
 

atlkvb

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.I am an American first, I am not bound to a party or belief system other than my own...
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Stop your miserable lying. Joe Biden is against everything you claim you stand for! Trump supports most of what you claim you honor. Yet you're going to vote for Biden in opposition to Trump because you hate Trump more than you Love America?

You'd better quit now while you're ahead or you're going to get embarrassed.

The only thing lying guarantees is you tell more lies to cover up the ones you keep telling.
 
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dedhoops24

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Joe Biden is not Pro Life. Trump is. If that issue is as important to you as you claim, there is NO WAY you hate Trump more than you value innocent Human Life. NO WAY!!!!

Stop your lying.

How many abortions do you think DJT has paid for over the years....your funny!
 

dedhoops24

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Stop your miserable lying. Joe Biden is against everything you claim you stand for! Trump supports most of what you claim you honor. Yet you're going to vote for Biden in opposition to Trump because you Love America more than you hate Trump?

You'd better quit now while you're ahead or you're going to get embarrassed.

The only thing lying guarantees is you tell more lies to cover up the ones you keep telling.

I bet you there are more people who think and feel the way I do versus how you think and feel.....we will see on November 3rd.
 

atlkvb

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I bet you there are more people who think and feel the way I do versus how you think and feel.....we will see on November 3rd.

You simply cannot be honest and tell the Truth. Why do you vote for someone who opposes everything you claim to stand for and reject a candidate who supports what you claim to support?

What's more important to you than innocent Human Life? Yet, you're voting for Biden only because you hate Trump so much? So you hate Trump more than you value innocent Human Life?

You're sick.
 

dedhoops24

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Stop your miserable lying. Joe Biden is against everything you claim you stand for! Trump supports most of what you claim you honor. Yet you're going to vote for Biden in opposition to Trump because you Love America more than you hate Trump?

You'd better quit now while you're ahead or you're going to get embarrassed.

The only thing lying guarantees is you tell more lies to cover up the ones you keep telling.

Using your same logic:

Do you support postponing the election?

Do you support secret police in the streets attacking and arresting US Citizens?

Do you support the first President in American history to try and take the US military into the streets, forcing the Chairman and Joint Chiefs to publicly state their oaths to the people.

Do you support Russian bounties and pacifying their leadership with moves like removing forces from
Germany?

Do you support the fact that the US has failed miserably in protecting its people from this virus?
 

atlkvb

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How many abortions do you think DJT has paid for over the years....your funny!

You don't know that...how many Abortions does Biden support confiscating your taxes to pay for? You're voting for that, but against Trump who wants a human Life amendment to the Constitution, and ending all taxpayer assisted abortions.

Your lies don't even make sense to you if you really think about what you're saying.
 
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dedhoops24

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You simply cannot be honest and tell the Truth. Why do you vote for someone who opposes everything you claim to stand for and reject a candidate who supports what you claim to support?

What's more important to you than innocent Human Life? Yet, you're voting for Biden only because you hate Trump so much? So you hate Trump more than you value innocent Human Life?

You're sick.

I am curious, how many foster children have you supported over the course of your adult life?
 

atlkvb

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Using your same logic:

Do you support postponing the election?

Do you support secret police in the streets attacking and arresting US Citizens?

Do you support the first President in American history to try and take the US military into the streets, forcing the Chairman and Joint Chiefs to publicly state their paths to the people.

Do you support Russian bounties and pacifying their leadership with moves like removing forces from
Germany?

Do you support the fact that the US has failed miserably in protecting its people from this virus?

All lies 100% unverifiable provable lies communist/Socialist/Leftist/Racist lies. You just don't quit do you? You STILL have not answered my question on is Human Life created, sacred, and to be protected regardless of the circumstances of birth? What's wrong, having trouble lying on Almighty God too?
 

dedhoops24

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You don't know that...how many Abortions does Biden support confiscating your taxes to pay for? You're voting for that, but against Trump who wants a human Life amendment to the Constitution, and ending all taxpayer assisted abortions.

Your lies don't even make sense to you if you really think about what you'e saying.

Trump is a con man and guys like you keep sucking on his little pee pee just like he wants...
 

atlkvb

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I am curious, how many foster children have you supported over the course of your adult life?

That has nothing to do with the question I directly asked you, and just as I predicted rather than be honest and honestly answer the question you deflect, obfuscate, dodge and do everything but tell the Truth.
 

dedhoops24

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All lies 100% unverifiable provable lies communist/Socialist/Leftist/Racist lies. You just don't quit do you? You STILL have not answered my question on is Human Life created, sacred, and to be protected regardless of the circumstances of birth? What's wrong, having trouble lying on Almighty God too?

You are a clown....you just use better grammar and type faster than some of these other clowns on here.......talk about ignoring questions and deflecting...
 

dedhoops24

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That has nothing to do with the question I directly asked you, and just as I predicted rather than be honest and honestly answer the question you deflect, obfuscate, dodge and do everything but tell the Truth.

Sure it does, you are on here rattling about the amount of abortions and deaths in the AA community, a community that you are a vocal part of, my question is valid, what are you doing to be a part of the solution? Do you foster children in your community? Do you
donate to those programs, either with money or things like sheets, blankets, pillows and toiletries??

Or is your vote for Trump the end all be all of your support....?
 

atlkvb

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You are a clown....you just use better grammar and type faster than some of these other clowns on here.......talk about ignoring questions and deflecting...

Why is your hatred for Trump greater than your respect for innocent Human Life? You are voting against Trump but for his opponent who favors taxpayer funded Abortion on demand? But you claim you are Pro Life.

So you hate Trump more than you value Human Life? Even YOU can't explain that and it's your lie!
 

dave

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I am a Democrat. I have also voted Republican. I would put myself between libertarian and liberal.

As for my party, they have sold their soul to the devil. They have been for decades trying to attract a younger following. But those youngsters never vote, so it didn't work. But now, these youngsters aren't "liberals", they are RADICALS and EXTREMISTS with their thoughts and beliefs. They feel pushing their beliefs on to everyone is the right way and use the "liberalism" claim as a mask to hide their true extremist views.

My Democrats are not Marxists or socialists. I think both parties have a little "socialism" in them, but the new younger group of Democrats are flat out nuts with it. Lumping a person like me in to that group is just the same as lumping all Republicans in with the racist idiots that show up with Trump hats on.

EDIT: A college professor said something to class once that I will never forget...."Fair is not always equal, and equal is not always fair". Has always stuck with me.
You will probably hate to hear this but you are probably about the same as me politically.