Where are we talent wise now vs 2009

[thatsbaseball]

Not a flame and not trying to make a point....just curious. Going forward I know we are much better off at QB now.

 

[BulldogBlitz]

We have someone better than Chris relf next season?

 

[natchezdawg]

QB and WR are the only two that are obviously better..

Offensive line and secondary is worse.

DL and LB may be equal.

TE is better.

We have some depth and young guys at RB but no Dixon. Wish we had a Dixon.

 

[johnson86-1]

Not a flame and not trying to make a point....just curious. Going forward I know we are much better off at QB now.

Much better at QB, which is the most important position. About the same on the oline. Don't have some of the high end talent like Sherrod but don't have huge gaps either. Better at safety as hard as that is to believe, by we had a starting safety nicknamed toast when croom left. But if we're just as good as when croom left, that's not all that bad. Croom actually left a lot of talent at most places on the field but then had ridiculously bad weak links.

 

[57stratdawg]

That looks about right, although I think if the 2015 secondary is healthy - it would have been fine.

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

2009-2010 the DL was much better. Fletcher Cox, Josh Boyd, Kalleb Eulls, and Pernell McPhee---boy I miss dominating the line of scrimmage.

2009-2010 the OL was much better too. Derek Sherrod, JC Brignone, Tobias Smith, young Gabe Jackson, young Blaine Clausell, young Dillon Day, and a young Ben Beckwith---did I mention that I miss dominating the line of scrimmage!

2009-2010 the LB were a little better too. KJ Wright, Chris White, Deontae Skinner, and even Emmanuel Gatling. Power and deceptive speed.

2009-2010 the Secondary was way better too. Banks, Broomfield, Wade Bonner, Charles Mitchell, Nickoe Whitley, and Maurice Langston. Loved the pass coverage back then.

2009-2010 we also had something that helped our running game tremendously, something that we do not have anymore FULLBACKS. Patrick Hanrahan and William Shumpert were fantastic at crushing LBs and giving Vick Ballard and Perkins clear lanes to run through.

So yeah. Basically we are better at QB and WR now but we have definitely taken a step back at other positions.

 

[00Dawg]

I think the question was limited to 2009 so as to compare the roster Mullen inherited plus his first recruiting class.
You listed some folks who were signed in 2010 and redshirted (Eulls, Beckwith, Clausell) and one who was signed in 2011 (Day).

 

[Bulldogg31]

Could we beat Michigan 52-14 in the Gator Bowl this year?

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

Sigh, go to hailstate.com, then go to Football, then go to Roster, then enter 2009. Swear to God these are the names on the roster.

DL---Kyle Love, Pernell McPhee, Fletcher Cox, Josh Boyd, Nick Bell. So 4 NFL guys and Nick who passed away.

LB---KJ Wright, Chris White, Deontae Skinner, Jamar Chaney, and Emmanuel Gatling. 4 NFL guys and 1 Engineer.

SECONDARY---Banks, Broomfield, Wade Bonner, Charles Mitchell, and Nickoe Whitley. I realize that we played Zach "Toast" Smith but all these guys listed are on the 2009 roster.

OL---Derek Sherrod, JC Brignone, Tobias Smith, Quinton Saulsbury, Gabe Jackson, and Addison "False Start" Lawrence. So not as good as 2010 but I would venture to say that these 2009 guys > 2015 guys.

FB---Still had Hemphill and William Shumpert. Plus I noticed Marcus Green this time, guy played 16 years for us it seemed like.

Now the 2010 roster has Dillon Day, Ben Beckwith, Blaine Clausell, and Kaleb Eulles on it but they all redshirted. And those 3 listed OL guys are probably the top recruiting class for Hevesey.

So in review my conclusion is pretty much the same. Our current QB and WR group is better than 2009, but our 2009 OL and DL and Secondary was way better than their current counterparts. I will call LB to be the same---Gerri Green, Leo Lewis, and the 2 Browns are good enough to be NFL guys.

Side note---with Mark Richt in the news I am reminded that Richt basically gave us Jamar Chaney. Chaney was a UGA commit but Richt was not gonna have room for him. So Richt called up Croom and worked out a place for Jamar Chaney here at MSU.