Where are the "real" Journalists?

atlkvb

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The "collusion delusion" was in part created, promoted, and promulgated by a sycophantic Democrat fawning news media that hates Trump probably worse than the Obama DOJ perpetrators. (hard to believe) They fanned the flames of conspiracy and blared each "fake news" non-story daily (CNN became the "all collusion, all the time" network)

No one was even remotely interested in the hard evidence pointing in the opposite direction toward the Hillary campaign & Obama administration involving "collusion" or the rampant corruption behind the scheme. Now that the facts are known by investigators and their conclusion was "no collusion, no obstruction" on the part of Trump, the same media has shifted tactics and instead of trying to get to the bottom of why they were so wrong, they have doubled down and are now insisting on a new conspiracy to "hide" what they spent two years lying to us about! However here are some questions true Journalists and news media should now be asking of both Obama and Hillary if they weren't so lazy, stupid, biased and wrong. Always wrong.

  • President Obama, were you made aware of your DOJ spying on the Trump campaign while you were in office?
  • President Obama, are you shocked at the possibility of any spying on a political campaign in the post-Watergate America?
  • President Obama, are you supportive of Attorney General Barr’s efforts to fully investigate the reasons for this spying? (we've never been told the what actual security threat was?)
  • President Obama, if FISA courts were deceived in any way by your FBI, would you characterize that as a scandal — and if not, how would you characterize it? Will you demand they testify who directed them?
  • President Obama, who ordered the names caught in that FISA snooping unmasked? Have you ever asked?
  • President Obama, when you said that you learned about Hillary Clinton’s secret e-mail server by reading about it in the papers, were you being honest, Sir? Because we know that you sent her numerous e-mails on that server knowing full well that it had an address that was outside the State Department. (even before you heard about it in the papers)
  • President Obama, looking back, are you shocked/pissed that the Secretary of State would illegally create and maintain a private, poorly secured, e-mail server that processed top secret documents for her entire term without your knowledge?
  • President Obama, was President Trump correct in his assessment that he was illegally surveilled by your administration? How could this have happened without your knowledge in your opinion?
...and here are a few more for Hillary they could ask her (if they wanted the Truth)
  • Mrs. Clinton, when did you first read the Steele dossier that YOU paid for?
  • Mrs. Clinton, what was your reaction when you saw 'BuzzFeed' actually publish the dossier despite their admission that it had not been verified or corroborated?
  • Did you feel successful? Did you call 'Buzzfeed' to thank them or chastise them?
  • As a former First Lady, Senator, and Secretary of State, are you familiar with investigative reports from intelligence agencies? Were you fooled by the information in the Steele dossier? Did you believe what was in the Steele dossier? Did you attempt to warn anyone that it wasn't verified or corroborated? Did you ever talk to Michael Steele or ask him about his information? Did you tell anyone in the FBI, CIA, DNI, or NSA that it wasn't corroborated?
  • Why did you pay for what you knew was not verified or corroborated in the Steele dossier? Who in your organization gave the Perkins-Coie law firm the assignment to secure the dossier from Fusion GPS, and were you aware of the assignment? What did you intend to do with it?
  • If the FBI, DOJ, CIA, and Director of National Intelligence abused their powers, spying on and undermining the Trump campaign, transition, and presidency, do you now condemn those actions? Did anyone in your campaign know the Trump campaign was being "spied on"? Why?
  • Do you believe Trump "colluded" with Russians to steal the '16 election? How?
  • Mrs. Clinton, are you at all worried that the Steele dossier can be tied to your campaign and that it was thus knowingly used to secure four fraudulent FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign, or did you feel like it was a legitimate political operation?
  • What happened to those 33,000 e-mails you illegally deleted from that illegal server?
I could go on and on...and on. Honestly not all of these are my original ideas but when I read a few of them, they were so good I had to pass them along and add a few of my own. The point is anyone can come up with their particular list and NO ONE in the so called major news media is even the least bit curious about the other side of this massive "collusion delusion", which as a reporter I would think is a huge scoop waiting for one of them with any integrity left in telling the American people the Truth.o_O

However we are talking about main news media aren't we? As I've always said about them.....

Media=Lazy, stupid, biased, and WRONG! Always wrong.
 
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atlkvb

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We can hold DOJ weasels like Comey and McCabe accountable. But what do we do with folks in the media who in my mind were just as culpable for spreading this hoax?

My suggestion is to tune them out...listen to nothing else they have to say. They are 100% discredited. Hope Nunes cleans their bank accounts out.:thumbsdown:
 

atlkvb

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Hey @Boomboom521 didn't you once tell me you studied Journalism at WVU? I think you did. (Me too) So do me a favor as a fellow trained reporter OK?

Read my OP in this thread, and as a Journalist put your excellent WVU training to the test. Can you tell me what's wrong with those questions I'd anticipate our fellow trained Journalists should now be curious about or at least now asking since the official 2 year investigation of Trump showed "no collusion" and "no obstruction"?

I believe I received a fabulous education at West Virginia University, and put my training to good use spending 23 years a Broadcast Journalist asking the hard questions like these as I was trained to do.

Weren't you too?
 
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Journalists became nut kissers to the highest bidder....they would tongue punch a dirty fart box for a extra dollar.
 

atlkvb

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Journalists became nut kissers to the highest bidder....they would tongue punch a dirty fart box for a extra dollar.

It isn't so much the facts of the story that matter most to them, it's the story they prefer to tell behind the facts as they see them.
 

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Freedom of speech was meant to protect us from a corrupt government not lead us blindly down the corrupt path ....not say Trump or Republicans are not dirty little bastards, but so aint the left & today's journalists choose to change the name of the Democrats dirty deeds so they sound soft & unintentional crimes...& then they dont report on what they cant soften....sad ..us independent voters see it loud & clear
 

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Freedom of speech was meant to protect us from a corrupt government not lead us blindly down the corrupt path ....not say Trump or Republicans are not dirty little bastards, but so aint the left & today's journalists choose to change the name of the Democrats dirty deeds so they sound soft & unintentional crimes...& then they dont report on what they cant soften....sad ..us independent voters see it loud & clear
Same Techniques used by military units world wide.. It's funny to watch certain individuals on social media try to use the water downed versions they got from taking social media marketing classes, community organizing, and internet searches.
https://www.realcleardefense.com/ar...ical_warfare_can_influence_policy_113669.html
 

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another shout out to @Boomboom521 ....

reposting this from earlier in the year, when you once again refused to accept facts that were being presented on the phony FISA application and illegal spying on the Trump campaign.

https://westvirginia.forums.rivals.com/threads/a-very-good-primer-on-the-memo.167582/

Hey ATL, here is a news flash. Shouting out to the Libs is like shouting at the ocean. You can do it loudly and all day but the ocean doesn’t care.

Thought your questions were very good. Think you need to expand the list of active participants. Lynch and Rosenstein should be added at a minimum. Imho.
 

atlkvb

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another shout out to @Boomboom521

...not picking on you, but I just don't understand your silence or indifference over this "collusion" story as a reporter trained to examine "just the facts" or at least as someone who poses on this board as a seeker of simple Justice?

Imagine what a waste of your time & your Parent's money boomer? They sacrificed to pay your way through College and spent thousands on your training as a Journalist.You too no doubt spent arduous hours traipsing the hallowed floors of Martin Hall, studying, learning your craft, how to apply the skills of the trade! Imagine the disappointment of your Professor(s) Cremer, Atkins, Ours, Stewart, or the esteemed Frank Kearns, who challenged us to never be a "stranger to the Truth" and the others who dedicated their life's work imparting to you fidelity to the facts, to an unbiased, unrelenting search for the Truth, devotion to your readers or viewers and yourself!

The details of this story you simply ignore, overlook, or worse excuse? Your search for Truth is muted by your political allegiance towards one party or ideology over the raw facts? What a shame boomer! What a waste!

Why did you even bother to study Journalism if in the face of all this corruption, lying, disinformation, misinformation, and downright disregard for our cherished Constitutional protections against Government malfeasance you remain silent? Are you that indifferent to the ramifications of what quite possibly could be THE single biggest abuse of political power in our nation's history? For what boomer? Why?

Who has gotten to you boom? Who robbed you of your Collegiate idealism as a cub reporter? Who dulled your sensitivity to the Truth? Who tarnished your zeal for accuracy and devotion to our Constitutionally protected Freedoms? A reporter's pledge is to tell all, relying only on the facts. Your behavior has been to ignore everything, except that which fits your political ideology? This is what your WVU Professors taught you? That is how you reward their efforts?

For shame boom, for shame!

The once Journalist in me aches over what has become of our ex-profession and specifically one of our fellow crusaders pledged as a mere student to maintaining the integrity of the 4th estate! I never thought I'd see the day, when an Orange colored carnival barking moral reprobate from Queens, would render the entire revered Journalistic community nothing but an "enemy of the people" by virtue of a simple proclamation in observation of their refusal to do their Constitutional duty and merely tell the American people the Truth....not feed them a steady diet of "fake news"! [eyeroll]

Instead you have joined the conspiratorial cabal of media=lazy, stupid, biased, and always wrong so called Journalists...who have lied not only to the American people about Trump's "collusion" with a known Foreign adversary, but to themselves about their alleged calling as vanguards protecting American Freedom and the very Constitution which guarantees their right to assure it by holding corrupt Government miscreants accountable.

They and you too boom, have failed.
 
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another shout out to @Boomboom521

...not picking on you, but I just don't understand your silence or indifference over this "collusion" story as a reporter trained to examine "just the facts" or at least as someone who poses on this board as a seeker of simple Justice?

Imagine what a waste of your time & your Parent's money boomer? They sacrificed to pay your way through College and spent thousands on your training as a Journalist.You too no doubt spent arduous hours traipsing the hallowed floors of Martin Hall, studying, learning your craft, how to apply the skills of the trade! Imagine the disappointment of your Professor(s) Cremer, Atkins, Ours, Stewart, or the esteemed Frank Kearns, who challenged us to never be a "stranger to the Truth" and the others who dedicated their life's work imparting to you fidelity to the facts, to an unbiased, unrelenting search for the Truth, devotion to your readers or viewers and yourself!

The details of this story you simply ignore, overlook, or worse excuse? Your search for Truth is muted by your political allegiance towards one party or ideology over the raw facts? What a shame boomer! What a waste!

Why did you even bother to study Journalism if in the face of all this corruption, lying, disinformation, misinformation, and downright disregard for our cherished Constitutional protections against Government malfeasance you remain silent? Are you that indifferent to the ramifications of quite possibly could be THE single biggest abuse of political power in our nation's history? For what boomer? Why?

Who has gotten to you boom? Who robbed you of your Collegiate idealism as a cub reporter? Who dulled your sensitivity to the Truth? Who tarnished your zeal for accuracy and devotion to our Constitutionally protected Freedoms? A reporter's pledge is to tell all, relying only on the facts. Your behavior has been to ignore everything, except that which fits your political ideology? This is what your WVU Professors taught you? That is how you reward their efforts?

For shame boom, for shame!

The once Journalist in me aches over what has become of our ex-profession and specifically one of our fellow crusaders pledged as a mere student to maintaining the integrity of the 4th estate! I never thought I'd see the day, when an Orange colored carnival barking moral reprobate from Queens, would render the entire revered Journalistic community noting but an "enemy of the people" by virtue of a simple proclamation in observation of their refusal to do their Constitutional duty and merely tell the American people the Truth....not feed them a steady diet of "fake news"! [eyeroll]

Instead you have joined the conspiratorial cabal of media=lazy, stupid, biased, and always wrong so called Journalists...who have lied not only to the American people about Trump's "collusion" with a known Foreign adversary, but to themselves about their alleged calling as protected vanguards of American Freedom and the very Constitution which guarantees their right to assure it by holding corrupt Government miscreants accountable.

They and you too boom, have failed.
Journalist >Activist
 

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another shout out to @Boomboom521

...not picking on you, but I just don't understand your silence or indifference over this "collusion" story as a reporter trained to examine "just the facts" or at least as someone who poses on this board as a seeker of simple Justice?

Imagine what a waste of your time & your Parent's money boomer? They sacrificed to pay your way through College and spent thousands on your training as a Journalist.You too no doubt spent arduous hours traipsing the hallowed floors of Martin Hall, studying, learning your craft, how to apply the skills of the trade! Imagine the disappointment of your Professor(s) Cremer, Atkins, Ours, Stewart, or the esteemed Frank Kearns, who challenged us to never be a "stranger to the Truth" and the others who dedicated their life's work imparting to you fidelity to the facts, to an unbiased, unrelenting search for the Truth, devotion to your readers or viewers and yourself!

The details of this story you simply ignore, overlook, or worse excuse? Your search for Truth is muted by your political allegiance towards one party or ideology over the raw facts? What a shame boomer! What a waste!

Why did you even bother to study Journalism if in the face of all this corruption, lying, disinformation, misinformation, and downright disregard for our cherished Constitutional protections against Government malfeasance you remain silent? Are you that indifferent to the ramifications of what quite possibly could be THE single biggest abuse of political power in our nation's history? For what boomer? Why?

Who has gotten to you boom? Who robbed you of your Collegiate idealism as a cub reporter? Who dulled your sensitivity to the Truth? Who tarnished your zeal for accuracy and devotion to our Constitutionally protected Freedoms? A reporter's pledge is to tell all, relying only on the facts. Your behavior has been to ignore everything, except that which fits your political ideology? This is what your WVU Professors taught you? That is how you reward their efforts?

For shame boom, for shame!

The once Journalist in me aches over what has become of our ex-profession and specifically one of our fellow crusaders pledged as a mere student to maintaining the integrity of the 4th estate! I never thought I'd see the day, when an Orange colored carnival barking moral reprobate from Queens, would render the entire revered Journalistic community nothing but an "enemy of the people" by virtue of a simple proclamation in observation of their refusal to do their Constitutional duty and merely tell the American people the Truth....not feed them a steady diet of "fake news"! [eyeroll]

Instead you have joined the conspiratorial cabal of media=lazy, stupid, biased, and always wrong so called Journalists...who have lied not only to the American people about Trump's "collusion" with a known Foreign adversary, but to themselves about their alleged calling as protected vanguards of American Freedom and the very Constitution which guarantees their right to assure it by holding corrupt Government miscreants accountable.

They and you too boom, have failed.
All that journalism training wasted on Boomfizzle and he became a sheeple. Shameful....
 

atlkvb

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Hey ATL, here is a news flash. Shouting out to the Libs is like shouting at the ocean. You can do it loudly and all day but the ocean doesn’t care.

Thought your questions were very good. Think you need to expand the list of active participants. Lynch and Rosenstein should be added at a minimum. Imho.

Typical Leftist reaction to "collusion delusion"


@Boomboom521 on the same story....
 

atlkvb

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Hey Hillary...you care about all that illegal FISA snooping on Trump?


Really Baby Girl? Don't you even care??????
 

atlkvb

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Congratulatons @Boomboom521 ...by your courage and resolute devotion to "the Truth" you have demonstrated to both the board and your fellow Socialist Leftists that the best way to defend your losing efforts and lies is just to not show up or defend your losing efforts and lies!

Way to go boom! Showing the way of getting to the facts by simply ignoring them! :eek:kay:
 
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atlkvb

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Hey ATL, here is a news flash. Shouting out to the Libs is like shouting at the ocean. You can do it loudly and all day but the ocean doesn’t care.

Thought your questions were very good. Think you need to expand the list of active participants. Lynch and Rosenstein should be added at a minimum. Imho.

You're right. @Boomboom521 , @moe @countryroads89 @Keyser76 as well as Rosenfraud and Lyin' Lynch apparently are all out of parsing and excuse making since none of them can answer the tough questions in the thread "where are all the Journalists?"

Can't defend criminality and lawlessness? Just don't recognize any of it?

See how easy that is JW?