When we get a vaccine.............

[L4Dawg]

be prepared to have to have regular boosters. It's looking increasingly likely that there will be no such thing as natural herd immunity. This would be very similar to the way the flu behaves so it should be no surprise to anyone.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.09.20148429v1

 

[Xenomorph]

Ok

 

[DoggieDaddy13]

So you're saying Bill Gates will be injecting us with multiple tracking chips. NOOOOO!

 

[horshack.sixpack]

So you're saying Bill Gates will be injecting us with multiple tracking chips. NOOOOO!

It'll be the only way you can pay for goods and services once we are cashless, unless you also have your forehead bar-coded.***

 

[My Bru]

I never get the flu shot. I also never get the flu. I've never worn a mask either before this year. I naturally semi-socially distance, just not an in-your-face type, especially during the winter. I also wash my hands religiously (never been big on sanitizer, but use it sometimes). What exactly is the difference here?

L4, I'm honestly interested in your end game. Do we simply mask up indefinitely?

 

[40 acres and a mule]

be prepared to have to have regular boosters. It's looking increasingly likely that there will be no such thing as natural herd immunity. This would be very similar to the way the flu behaves so it should be no surprise to anyone.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.09.20148429v1

So, we won't be having any more shutdowns or mask wearing either, right? Just like we don't with the flu, right?

 

[40 acres and a mule]

Do we simply mask up indefinitely?

No, we shut down indefinitely. Only those who get a check from the government get paid. Sort of**

 

[L4Dawg]

I never get the flu shot. I also never get the flu. I've never worn a mask either before this year. I naturally semi-socially distance, just not an in-your-face type, especially during the winter. I also wash my hands religiously (never been big on sanitizer, but use it sometimes). What exactly is the difference here?

L4, I'm honestly interested in your end game. Do we simply mask up indefinitely?

When we have a vaccine/treatment that is the endgame. Then you can be stupid as you want to be and it will on affect you and those like you.

 

[L4Dawg]

So, we won't be having any more shutdowns or mask wearing either, right? Just like we don't with the flu, right?

Why would we if we have a vaccine and a treatment. We have that for the flu.

 

[RocketDawg]

Just look at the boosters as regular technology updates.

Hopefully the booster is no more than annually, like the flu shot.

 

[RocketDawg]

Since every lab in the world is working continuously to get a Covid vaccine, I wonder if they've diluted the effort for this year's flu shot?

 

[BELdog]

I don’t get a flu shot. Why would I get a COVID vaccine?

 

[RevWGL]

Maybe because you want football back more quickly. It may be demanded by your school/employer. But the real result will be that vulnerable people can get the vaccine and not have to worry about your choice.

 

[Dawg1976]

As you age your immune system diminishes. Maybe you are young and bullet proof.

 

[THE Bruce Dickinson]

This would be very similar to the way the flu behaves so it should be no surprise to anyone.

You don't say.....

 

[J-Dawg]

My neighbor was directly involved in running several of the mobile testing centers over the past couple of months in Mississippi. The scuttlebutt he's hearing as of late is, to paraphrase:

-Regarding antibody testing, nearly everyone that has been tested multiple times for antibodies will show the antibodies on the 1st test, but not the follow up some period of time later. They began to notice this when they first started antibody testing in the early stages, mainly of the nurses and workers. His anecdotal opinion is that the antibodies won't be lifelong, or even for an extended period, which falls in line with how other coronaviruses behave. The reason you don't get them all the time is constant exposure i.e. letting your immune system do it's job.

-His opinion, like you alluded to, is that this will in fact (like many people mentioned in the early stages) become just another disease we must contend with as we do other diseases. Once it burns through (hopefully controlled) the population as a big wave, hopefully it will become more of a seasonal thing with less impact.

 

[ckDOG]

That's right

My neighbor was directly involved in running several of the mobile testing centers over the past couple of months in Mississippi. The scuttlebutt he's hearing as of late is, to paraphrase:

-Regarding antibody testing, nearly everyone that has been tested multiple times for antibodies will show the antibodies on the 1st test, but not the follow up some period of time later. They began to notice this when they first started antibody testing in the early stages, mainly of the nurses and workers. His anecdotal opinion is that the antibodies won't be lifelong, or even for an extended period, which falls in line with how other coronaviruses behave. The reason you don't get them all the time is constant exposure i.e. letting your immune system do it's job.

-His opinion, like you alluded to, is that this will in fact (like many people mentioned in the early stages) become just another disease we must contend with as we do other diseases. Once it burns through (hopefully controlled) the population as a big wave, hopefully it will become more of a seasonal thing with less impact.

We won't make it go away. We will probably get some combination of recurring vaccine and better viral treatments to get society comfortable with how to live with it and recover from it - just like we do for the seasonal flu.

And for the jackasses that want to reply "see it's the flu!". Think before you reply. We can call this a similar risk as the flu after we have a reasonable preventative and treatment. We can't say that right now. 17 off with that nonsense.

 

[ckDOG]

Vaccines require minimum amount of people to work as intended.

I don’t get a flu shot. Why would I get a COVID vaccine?

They aren't really solutions solely for the individual. You're free to make that decision, but you also have to acknowledge that you are a mooch. It is what it is. I've done it a few flu seasons. But fortunately, vaccines still work with only partial utilization. 60% utilization at 60% efficacy can be a mother 17er for a virus.

 

[L4Dawg]

The new numbers just came out for MS. The hospital numbers are terrible. We are probably headed back to a lockdown soon. Tate has been making veiled references to that recently.

 

[johnson86-1]

My neighbor was directly involved in running several of the mobile testing centers over the past couple of months in Mississippi. The scuttlebutt he's hearing as of late is, to paraphrase:

-Regarding antibody testing, nearly everyone that has been tested multiple times for antibodies will show the antibodies on the 1st test, but not the follow up some period of time later. They began to notice this when they first started antibody testing in the early stages, mainly of the nurses and workers. His anecdotal opinion is that the antibodies won't be lifelong, or even for an extended period, which falls in line with how other coronaviruses behave. The reason you don't get them all the time is constant exposure i.e. letting your immune system do it's job.

-His opinion, like you alluded to, is that this will in fact (like many people mentioned in the early stages) become just another disease we must contend with as we do other diseases. Once it burns through (hopefully controlled) the population as a big wave, hopefully it will become more of a seasonal thing with less impact.

Not sure how reasonable the hope is, but apparently some people are banking on immunity or at least being able to knock it out easily after infection based on memory t-cells.