When is someone going to ask the question

[DudyDog]

If the reports of Denzel are true, and even if they aren't, I think we've seen enough over the past month that somebody needs to look at the drug testing that OM has done over the past 3 years. Now I know it is highly likely OM can cook the books with the best of them, so you may never know the truth about anything that goes on up there, but somebody needs to start looking around and asking some questions. It's one thing to let a round one talent slide on some things, but when it comes to using drugs, that needs to be handled. Heaven forbid a guy have his personal transgressions swept under the rug just to win a few more ballgames and he end up so messed up he has to be treated for his addiction in a medical facility.

You will never make me believe someone all of a sudden starts jumping out of 4th story windows, even if he happened to "make a bad personal decision" on one occasion. This was not the first time RN used drugs.

And if not, when, how many times, and what were the results of his drug testing that OM administered over the past 3 years since he has been a student athlete?

When is someone going to ask that question?

 

[BulldogBlitz]

No one cares. If they do, they are too busy worrying about a tire discount given to a bench QB at state.

 

[patdog]

This may be the tipping point where people start to look at the way UM has run their program and all the stuff they've swept under the rug.

 

[ShrubDog]

Their drug usuage is no higher than our player's usuage. The statistics would be close across the board for most teams. I have no idea how they perform drug testing on players.

Some high profile incidents have shed more light on drug abuse amongest college athletes. Smoot sold crack and Ashley Cooper smoked like a champ.

 

[coach66]

I think the drug testing field is pretty

Level now but for years Ole Miss was more lenient than most programs in the past.

I agree that drugs are a problem everywhere but I would bet you everything I own that Ole Miss is in the upper echelon in drug and alcohol abuse if it could be accurately measured, hell their proud of it, never lost a party.

 

[BiscuitEater]

Posted in another thread ..

Their drug usuage is no higher than our player's usuage. The statistics would be close across the board for most teams. I have no idea how they perform drug testing on players.

Unless OM has changed it in the last two years, their drug policy has been described as ..

"perhaps the most embarrassing part of any drug policy in the NCAA, not only does Ole Miss not suspend players for a second failed drug test, they justify it by no longer giving the student-athlete complementary game tickets for family and friends. Their atrocious polices don't get much tougher on the third violation. A third failed drug test only requires a player to miss three games."

Another take .. "According to an Associated Press report from June of last year, Georgia, Kentucky and Mississippi State were the only schools that carried mandatory suspensions for a first-positive marijuana test (10 percent of the season). Second offenses are 50 percent of games, and the third is dismissal.
Compare that to the atrocities that are Ole Miss and Florida.

Ole Miss had no mandatory suspensions for the first or second offenses, according to <a href="http://www.aolnews.com/2010/12/20/fanhouse-report-bcs-football-program-drug-policies-revealed/" target="_blank">open records obtained by aolnews.com. For the Rebels, a second positive may mean (gasp!) the loss of free tickets or required community service. The third test failure would result in just a three-game suspension.

 

[Joe Schmedlap]

Wow, well that just about nails the problem. There are essentially little to no repercussions on the plantation for spending all that lawyer monthly stipend money on illegal drugs. I fear for their souls...

 

[ShrubDog]

Biscuit with some good fact checking. I was saying the statistics how many players use drugs would be close across the board. Apparently the Bears have a lack luster testing program.

 

[aTotal360]

And it's a huge selling point.

 

[121Josey]

If someone inquires about TSUN's drug testing policy, then TSUN will only investigate State's steroid program. You definitely don't want anybody snooping around State's illegal diabolic steroids lab.**

 

[Arthur2478]

I assume the reason these guys are smoking spice instead of weed is because it isn't an illegal substance and doesn't show up on drug tests.

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

I think drug use is pretty common among SEC teams---with most teams it is Marijuana maybe some Pep pills and some Alcohol. The difference in these 2 Nkemdiche cases is that they seem to be using harder drugs--we assume Spice but the jumping out of windows thing is really reminiscent of stories from the 1960s of folks high on LSD believing they could Fly and jumping off buildings.

Basically the Ole Miss drug choices are worse than the other SEC schools---Spice is worse than regular Marijuana, chugging Mouth Wash is worse than just drinking Beer, etc.

 

[121Josey]

I assume the reason these guys are smoking spice instead of weed is because it isn't an illegal substance and doesn't show up on drug tests.

Someone posted last week that it does appear on drug tests. It doesn't appear on the drug tests that don't want know anything.

 

[Arthur2478]

Someone posted last week that it does appear on drug tests. It doesn't appear on the drug tests that don't want know anything.

Maybe so, but would it be punishable if you tested positive for spice? It's a legal substance you can buy at gas stations.

 

[os62]

If if what you say is true, why did Bear Wilson only miss the first half of the USM game this year? Was he not charged with marijuana possession?

"All four men admitted they couldn't pass a drug test."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ver-wilson-arrested-on-drug-charges/24755781/

I'm not saying there isn't necessarily a problem with Ole Miss. However, I just question the validity of your info you provided. I know some of you will respond with "well that wasn't an MSU drug test". I will give you that, but isn't this just a case of semantics? And, isn't that what many MSU fans blame ole miss of---semantics??

Unless OM has changed it in the last two years, their drug policy has been described as ..

"perhaps the most embarrassing part of any drug policy in the NCAA, not only does Ole Miss not suspend players for a second failed drug test, they justify it by no longer giving the student-athlete complementary game tickets for family and friends. Their atrocious polices don't get much tougher on the third violation. A third failed drug test only requires a player to miss three games."

Another take .. "According to an Associated Press report from June of last year, Georgia, Kentucky and Mississippi State were the only schools that carried mandatory suspensions for a first-positive marijuana test (10 percent of the season). Second offenses are 50 percent of games, and the third is dismissal.
Compare that to the atrocities that are Ole Miss and Florida.

Ole Miss had no mandatory suspensions for the first or second offenses, according to open records obtained by aolnews.com. For the Rebels, a second positive may mean (gasp!) the loss of free tickets or required community service. The third test failure would result in just a three-game suspension.

 

[BossDawg78]

Basically the Ole Miss drug choices are worse than the other SEC schools---Spice is worse than regular Marijuana, chugging Mouth Wash is worse than just drinking Beer, etc.

Memphis, the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[KurtRambis4]

I would imagine

their drug usage by players is probably similar to ours.

What I find ridiculous, however, is this image that Freeze portrays. OM fans and nafoomers eat it up. They think the guy is some deity that is clean as a whistle. If you suggest otherwise, you get vehemently attacked. Hell, just look at how they responded to Wolken suggesting that Freeze is a farce.

The truth is, Freeze is a lying, cheater that has the OM fanbase all fooled, and he is "all-in" with it. At some point, the **** is going to hit the fan with the shenanigans going on.

It's going to be hilarious when it does, too.

 

[BiscuitEater]

Good question ..

If if what you say is true, why did Bear Wilson only miss the first half of the USM game this year? Was he not charged with marijuana possession?

And answer is .. Bear Wilson didn't fail a University administered drug test. Apparently, Denzel and Robert haven't failed more than two OM administered drug tests each .. while at OM.

 

[os62]

And answer is .. Bear Wilson didn't fail a University administered drug test. Apparently, Denzel and Robert haven't failed more than two OM administered drug tests each .. while at OM.

Fair enough.

 

[Sandman.sixpack]

I assume the reason these guys are smoking spice instead of weed is because it isn't an illegal substance and doesn't show up on drug tests.

Bingo! I've never done any drugs and don't know much about them, but apparently both Nkimciche brothers use Spice, because it doesn't show up on drug tests. Reports are that neither has ever failed a drug test, but that's apparently because they figured out how to get around it with Spice. I think that's the same drug that Honey Badger at LSU was using. I've heard Spice makes you do weird stuff (like jumping off balconies... LOL). So it's obvious to me that RN was using Spice, even if they never found it in the room. Apparently freeze came to same conclusion.
I agree that Pot use is rampant across the board at all SEC schools. I've heard estimates that about a quarter of all SEC football players smoke pot. I've never done pot, but to me it's not much different than drinking beer or Jack Daniels back in my day.
Drugs are a problem everywhere. Freeze has now kicked four players off the team this year for drugs (both Nkimdiches, Harris and Epps), so they're no different from anybody else.

 

[os62]

their drug usage by players is probably similar to ours.

What I find ridiculous, however, is this image that Freeze portrays. OM fans and nafoomers eat it up. They think the guy is some deity that is clean as a whistle. If you suggest otherwise, you get vehemently attacked. Hell, just look at how they responded to Wolken suggesting that Freeze is a farce.

The truth is, Freeze is a lying, cheater that has the OM fanbase all fooled, and he is "all-in" with it. At some point, the **** is going to hit the fan with the shenanigans going on.

It's going to be hilarious when it does, too.

Are you suggesting IT is coming???****

 

[KurtRambis4]

Based on

the current position of discipline, rampant allegations (some proven) of cheating, players having no repercussions, it is only a matter of time before something happens.

Do you believe that the lack of discipline is a good thing?

 

[DudyDog]

their drug usage by players is probably similar to ours.

What I find ridiculous, however, is this image that Freeze portrays. OM fans and nafoomers eat it up. They think the guy is some deity that is clean as a whistle. If you suggest otherwise, you get vehemently attacked. Hell, just look at how they responded to Wolken suggesting that Freeze is a farce.

The truth is, Freeze is a lying, cheater that has the OM fanbase all fooled, and he is "all-in" with it. At some point, the **** is going to hit the fan with the shenanigans going on.

It's going to be hilarious when it does, too.

The fan base at OM eats up Freeze just like they did Tubberville, Coach O, and Nutt. Once they leave, the fan base realizes how stupid they were....until the next one comes along and the cycle begins again.

 

[campshelbydog842003]

I think they are taking acid, which is out of one's system in about 24 hours.....really hard to fail that piss test. That's what a guy who hangs out with them told me anyway.

 

[memphisbulldog]

No one cares. If they do, they are too busy worrying about a tire discount given to a bench QB at state.

I assume you are talking about Kevin Fant. He was our starter.