When do we shut down the Citadel and VMI?
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Robert E. Lee was the most decorated soldier in the U.S. Army. He was a man of unimpeachable integrity. Lincoln offered him command of the Union Army, but Lee refused only because his loyalty was to Virginia. Lee opposed both secession and slavery. And yet to the historically illiterate left, a man who opposed both slavery and secession has come to symbolize both slavery and secession. Instead of truthfully confronting American history, the left-wing media and the Democratic Party are trying to pin the blame for slavery on those who don't deserve it. To me there’s a bigger story here – the left’s attempt to blame slavery entirely on the American South. This is a big lie, because number one, most Southerners did not own slaves, nor did most Confederate soldiers. Number two, the Northern Democrats in the preceding 40 years before the Civil War aggressively protected slavery. And they worked in cahoots with Southern Democrats. The fight over slavery wasn’t between North and South. It was between a pro-slavery Democratic Party and the anti-slavery Republicans. This entire controversy, and the larger effort to remove Confederate memorials all over the South, is an attempt to cunningly conceal the Democrats’ historic role in protecting slavery as an institution.
- Dinesh D'Souza
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I'm sorry, I don't understand the correlation you're trying to make. Explain it for me, use crayons so I'll be able to understand it.
Hell the uneducated white people surely don't know they exist. But to Dog's point this is beyond stupid. Here in Richmond:
Our schools are awful
Murder rates continue to increase
Infrastructure is deteriorating
School buildings are falling apart
Yet the discussion is about monuments that nobody talked about until this year. They weren't an issue. I can't even tell you which statue is Lee or Jackson.
We have real problems in this country and the right wants to spend money to build walls and the left wants to spend money to eradicate anything that makes them feel uncomfortable. Stupid on both sides. We so badly need real leadsership in this country at the national and local level and instead we get asshats.
Ummmm, I haven't disputed what the war was fought over. Moreover, that video doesn't explain the correlation you were trying to make, rather, it strengthens my argument.
VMI carried the battle of New Market aka The Battle of Lost Shoes. To this day VMI celebrates the victory and VMI's role in it with an annual Muster Call to which they read off the names of the 10 cadets who were killed fighting in it. Hell with statues, that's a living and breathing remembrance.
And the Citadel? Cadets from the Citadel fired the opening shots of the civil war when they stormed Ft. Moultrie and fired on Ft. Sumter. Again, the Citadel celebrates this "act of courage and defiance against the tyranny of the Northern aggressors".
Why quibble over statues when these institutions celebrate their part in an attempt to ensure slavery continued and yet, they're allowed to remain open? Seems like a slap in the face to the people descended from slavery over a 150 years previous, that is, if we're being consistent.
And seriously, can you dumb your post down a little for my obviously inferior intellect? I truly didn't get the correlation you were trying to make. Anyone else on here?
Robert E. Lee was the most decorated soldier in the U.S. Army. He was a man of unimpeachable integrity. Lincoln offered him command of the Union Army, but Lee refused only because his loyalty was to Virginia. Lee opposed both secession and slavery. And yet to the historically illiterate left, a man who opposed both slavery and secession has come to symbolize both slavery and secession. Instead of truthfully confronting American history, the left-wing media and the Democratic Party are trying to pin the blame for slavery on those who don't deserve it. To me there’s a bigger story here – the left’s attempt to blame slavery entirely on the American South. This is a big lie, because number one, most Southerners did not own slaves, nor did most Confederate soldiers. Number two, the Northern Democrats in the preceding 40 years before the Civil War aggressively protected slavery. And they worked in cahoots with Southern Democrats. The fight over slavery wasn’t between North and South. It was between a pro-slavery Democratic Party and the anti-slavery Republicans. This entire controversy, and the larger effort to remove Confederate memorials all over the South, is an attempt to cunningly conceal the Democrats’ historic role in protecting slavery as an institution.
- Dinesh D'Souza
So the Rebublican and Democratic parties of the mid 19th have the same agendas and principles as they do today? Nobody ever blamed slavery on the south. Slavery existed throughout the U.S. at the start of the Civil War except for a handful of states if I recall correctly. The southern states seceeded to protect the institution of slavery from the movement to end slavery. Simple as that. Lee was a traitor. He lost.
- Dinesh D'Souza
Dinesh Joseph D'Souza is an Indian American political commentator, author and filmmaker.
The Big Lie is an explosive new book from Dinesh D’Souza, author of the #1 New York Times bestsellers Hillary’s America, America, and Obama’s America.
What is “the big lie” of the Democratic Party? That conservatives—and President Donald Trump in particular—are fascists. Nazis, even. In a typical comment, MSNBC host Rachel Maddow says the Trump era is reminiscent of “what it was like when Hitler first became chancellor.”
But in fact, this audacious lie is a complete inversion of the truth. Yes, there is a fascist threat in America—but that threat is from the Left and the Democratic Party. The Democratic left has an ideology virtually identical with fascism and routinely borrows tactics of intimidation and political terror from the Nazi Brownshirts.
To cover up their insidious fascist agenda, Democrats loudly accuse President Trump and other Republicans of being Nazis—an obvious lie, considering the GOP has been fighting the Democrats over slavery, genocide, racism and fascism from the beginning.
Dinesh Joseph D'Souza is an Indian American political commentator, author and filmmaker.
The Big Lie is an explosive new book from Dinesh D’Souza, author of the #1 New York Times bestsellers Hillary’s America, America, and Obama’s America.
What is “the big lie” of the Democratic Party? That conservatives—and President Donald Trump in particular—are fascists. Nazis, even. In a typical comment, MSNBC host Rachel Maddow says the Trump era is reminiscent of “what it was like when Hitler first became chancellor.”
But in fact, this audacious lie is a complete inversion of the truth. Yes, there is a fascist threat in America—but that threat is from the Left and the Democratic Party. The Democratic left has an ideology virtually identical with fascism and routinely borrows tactics of intimidation and political terror from the Nazi Brownshirts.
To cover up their insidious fascist agenda, Democrats loudly accuse President Trump and other Republicans of being Nazis—an obvious lie, considering the GOP has been fighting the Democrats over slavery, genocide, racism and fascism from the beginning.
Since you like this Prager U video, how do you feel about the countless others?
really?.......you're smarter than that ....your liberal green eyed monster is showing
- Dinesh D'Souza
Dinesh Joseph D'Souza is an Indian American political commentator, author and filmmaker.
The Big Lie is an explosive new book from Dinesh D’Souza, author of the #1 New York Times bestsellers Hillary’s America, America, and Obama’s America.
What is “the big lie” of the Democratic Party? That conservatives—and President Donald Trump in particular—are fascists. Nazis, even. In a typical comment, MSNBC host Rachel Maddow says the Trump era is reminiscent of “what it was like when Hitler first became chancellor.”
But in fact, this audacious lie is a complete inversion of the truth. Yes, there is a fascist threat in America—but that threat is from the Left and the Democratic Party. The Democratic left has an ideology virtually identical with fascism and routinely borrows tactics of intimidation and political terror from the Nazi Brownshirts.
To cover up their insidious fascist agenda, Democrats loudly accuse President Trump and other Republicans of being Nazis—an obvious lie, considering the GOP has been fighting the Democrats over slavery, genocide, racism and fascism from the beginning.
Not only hateful but stupid too.
Nah. I don't think Nazis will be pushing for local decisions on these things anytime soon, so I'd be safe anyway. Now if I pushed the agenda that all these statues should stay up because these men were heroes of the white race...I could see me being called a Nazi. Even if I didn't believe a word of it and I was only trying to make a few bucks off their ignorance.
Pretty sure I did. It wasn't rocket surgery, and unlike some ITT, you're pretty logical and easy to follow.
Hypothetically......a lot of funk should be funkier, and a lot of scap should be scitterly whip on the wham wham.