Jackson's only like 6'9 as well. All of our guys have good length though, which is the real benefit of height, typically.
Wheeler announcement today?
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Pippin went 5-19 against the worst UK team in history in Nashville. And that is about as meaningless as Wheeler’s stats against UK.
It's his overall shooting and turnover stats that worry me.Just because he's coming to UK doesn't mean his warts will disappear.
Always so negative. Who hurt you?
We're talking about a 2nd team SEC PG who will be our backup. I'm good with it.
I have been a focal critic of Wheeler and I will say that my main gripe is I don’t understand why the staff let so many other options from the portal go by and focused on this guy? I personally wanted Marreon Jackson but with the portal there were more potential guard options then at any point in college basketball history available and yet this player is the guy we choose to put all our chips on. I just want to understand why? Is it because he played in the SEC last year and we don’t want a smaller conference player? After watching Carlik Jones at UL transfer in last year taught me great guards play in every conference in college basketball even the small ones.
I do wonder if he was going to Duke what people here would be saying about him.
If wheeler happens to choose somewhere else it will be funny to see some posters totally reverse course on him
Every player has warts. We have the shooters now that sagging off of him won’t be the issue it was this year because they will be able to reverse the ball for the open shot. I think the turnovers will drop also because he will be playing with an infinitely more talented team in which the pressure on him will be less.
He's second team all Sec?I hadn't hear that and it changes everything.Always so negative. Who hurt you?
We're talking about a 2nd team SEC PG who will be our backup. I'm good with it.
PG was our biggest weakness last year. If we start the season with our best PG from last year + proven SEC PG who was SEC's #1 in Assist/TO ratio + #2 ranked freshman PG and a 3-pt threat to boot. I would be happy!
Crying that Cal passed on a veteran who averaged 8 assists in his own conference and beat us last year in favor of another unproven 5 star he can promote on draft night.
No.Saying Duke is so low now they had to go for a midget.You know Rupp's Rafters better than that.
I really don’t get the negativity. He is veteran player who provides depth. Is he John Wall? Of course not. But he doesn’t need to be.
He's coming here to start for UK. Zero doubt. He starts at 1 and Ty at 2
I would be thrilled if he was our backup.But he will start and Tyty will movie to the 2 which hurts our shooting advantage.
My god. Can people not have a difference in opinion than some of you without you bitching it’s for this or that reason? What a society we live in.
Well I’m not sure that is the case. However, Cal may try to do something with the team like they did Hagans, IQ and Maxey. I could be wrong but I think he puts three guards on the floor a lot this year.
I don't think many have read the Interviews with Wheeler and his dad.He actually thought he might be NBA ready this season but decided for one more year.He really thinks he is a star and I just can't see him coming here for a backup role.
He probably will get a ton is of minutes. But playing three guards provides him the opportunity. It appears we have the players now to hit shots from the shooting guard and small forward positions. We simply didn’t last year.
People on this board have said that about every transfer, and no one knows what has been discussed with Cal.
Love to add a waterbug quick super passing and ball handler. Strong for his size. We sure have had problems defending players like him. Loved Tyler U. Shot the 3 decently his first year and prior to that. Hopefully don’t need him shooting 5 per game to win. He’s an A1 distributor and will be a joy to play with for the team. Can really pass and handle pressure. Fast.
Eagerly awaiting the cricket applause when he commits to the G.
Hard to say. Maybe Cal really wanted TyTy over some of these other guys, and TyTy wouldn't have committed if we'd have already accepted another PG. Would Marreon have been better than TyTy plus Wheeler? Again, hard to say.
I know it very well. You can be absolutely sure that the complaining is the default and everything else is adjusted to fit that.
Every time a guy like Wheeler cooks us, we get a dozen threads about how Cal would never play a guy like that because he's not a lottery pick but he's an actual good college player.
Granted, the shooting weakness is consistent with what this place typically values, but otherwise, Wheeler is exactly what people have been wanting for years.
I sure haven't been waiting years for a 5'8 guy who can't shoot and is a turnover machine.
We know. You've said it 80 times.
Do you think he'll average 4 turnovers per game and shoot 22% from 3 here? In what way do you think his height will be a problem, especially since you insist on using his original high school profile height and not his measured college height?
Exactly. I’ve said it 100 times, but I hope he proves me wrong. I have no vendettas, but I just don’t care for guys 5’10 and under running the ship. That height is an automatic liability and it’s non debatable. It’s at the very least not my preference.
I get it, we can’t always have a John Wall or a Fox at PG. He can clearly play and I’m fine with him on the team if we have another serviceable option, which we do. I just don’t like all my eggs in a got damn 5’8 inch bucket.
I guess this means Mintz is gone.I would have rather had him back instead of this guy.
Last year our guards couldn’t stay in front of a lamp post on defense. From what I can tell, both he and Washington have good lateral quickness to prevent their man from penetrating which is obviously a big help.
Just because he transfers to UK doesn't guarantee his numbers will be better.Just look at Sarr from last season.Cal has actually said you are what your numbers say you are.
Last years team was 9-16, so yea, he’s for sure an upgrade from what we had.
OK. How about :
@ Bama 16 pts. / 3 reb. / 3 assist / 3 steals
Bama 18 pts. / 10 assist / 3 steals
@ Florida 27 pts. / 4 reb. / 4 assist / 5 steals
Florida 10 pts. / 10 assist
@ Auburn 13 pts. / 7 assist / 3 steals
Auburn 19 pts. / 5 assist / 4 steals
@ Arkansas 14 pts. / 4 reb. / 4 assist / 2 steals
@ LSU 21 pts. / 3 reb. / 10 assist / 2 steals
LSU 14 pts. / 11 reb. / 13 assist. Just your average run of the mill triple double, but, but he is only 5-8.
Do those games impress you ? And he had several other games with 17-18 points and over 10 assist.
I watched one of those Bama games.He was I believe 7 for 17.He can't shoot but he thinks he can.
They aren't going to sag
And there is a reason for that.
I'll say this, I could put a great ball handling, non shooting, PG on the floor against you with 2 guys that can fill it up, and if you sag, I'll beat you by 50. It is the reason UK gave up back to back 3s against Miss St.
As soon as you decide to sag, I'll have my PG throw it to a wing, and then go pick for him, with no help, that shooter is going to get wide open 3 after wide open 3. Which is what Miss St did. they sent a non-shooter to pick for a shooter, because UK sagged off the non-shooter, and there was no help to stop the wide open 3.
The issue may be in making the puzzle pieces actually fit together. You have Washington, Grady, Fredrick and Allen to play on the wings. All those guys can really score the basketball and are good to great shooters. Probably makes more sense to add a player whose impact isn't actually scoring, since that is what these other guys are good at.
While this is true, Wheeler's freshman year when he played with another star, Anthony Edwards, his stat line was a lot more efficient. He shot 47% overall, and 32% from 3, scored 9 points on 7 shots, while leading the team in assists (and turnovers) during his 27+ minutes per game of playing time. During that season, he had a 1.5 assists/turnover ratio, this year he led the SEC at 1.68.
At UK, while his role may be a bit different, he will be playing against the same type of players he did at Georgia. That and Sarr not beign much of an inside presence on a teams that needed one were his biggest downfalls. I would expect Wheeler to be solid, but not a star. I do expect he will actually be better than Hagans, who was the PG for 2 straight top 10 teams at UK, 1 that lost in the Elite Eight, and another who had a chance to make a deep run.
Let's make a bet then.
If he averages 4.5 turnovers or more and shoots 22% or worse from 3, you two can choose what goes in my signature (within board rules) for the entire next season. Madness to One Shining Moment.
If he averages less than 4.5 turnovers or shoots better than 22% from three, I get to pick both of yours for the same duration.
7/17 is a better percentage than Mintz shot from the field last year and everyone would love to have him back.
Wheeler is an infinitely better facilitator and defends better.
Just from what I saw last season(I try and watch all the SEC games)Wheeler is not a good defender at all.The thing that bugged me about him was he would go running into a group of trees and throw up a wild shot that got blocked or was a turnover.He just seems to think he is better than he is and trys to take over games IMO only.
I guess Gonzo woke up and decided to make things up today. Knight was in no way lamented and nobody was clamoring for Lamb to play the 1? Knight is one of the top 3 PGs under Cal and was the key to that whole team. Absolutely nobody wanted him to play off the ball we were ranked all year and went into the tourney as a 4 seed. Grandstand much? lmao
Yeah, I remember that much differently from Gonzo as well. The year we had several clamoring to let Lamb play the 1 was the following year when Lamb was a sophomore, and Teague was struggling a bit early in the season. That was definitely a common conversation here. I don't recall anyone asking for Knight to be replaced by Lamb at the 1 the year before.