what was the jet that flew over at halftime?

[BigMotherTucker]

and where were they out of? Does anyone remember?

 

[msugrad2003]

I believe it was a C130 out of Dyess AFB TX

 

[BigMotherTucker]

Thanks for the info

 

[GloryDawg]

Yes it was a C-130 and it was a prop not a jet. However it was Turbo. I am just happy the engine didn't fall off while it was flying over. Those things first saw action in mid 1950's.

 

[ShrubDog]

Yes it was a C-130 and it was a prop not a jet. However it was Turbo. I am just happy the engine didn't fall off while it was flying over. Those things first saw action in mid 1950's.

Those birds lasted longer than the F22 Raptor

 

[garndawg]

Those birds lasted longer than the F22 Raptor

Worked on both aircraft, both are fabulous at what they do. Apples/Oranges

 

[Palos verdes]

Yes it was a C-130 and it was a prop not a jet. However it was Turbo. I am just happy the engine didn't fall off while it was flying over. Those things first saw action in mid 1950's.

I think that might have been a C-130J. If so, it's probably less than 5 years old.

 

[blacklistedbully]

Still going strong, with a new upgrade just released.

The funnest versions are the, "Attack" versions...the gunships. The new one, known as the AC-130J Ghostrider is an unreal gun platform. Even it's predecessor (The Spooky) has awesome firepower, with 25mm, 40mm, & 105mm guns, and is still in service.

The one prior to Spooky, the Spectre was just recently retired. It had 25, 40 & 105mm canons.

And I'm not even getting into the Gatling guns they've carried. Bad-***!

 

[MaroonNation]

A turboprop is a jet engine. It just happens to be driving a propeller.

 

[blacklistedbully]

I believe "J", Ghostrider was just designated IOC (Initial Operating Capability) this past month.

Could have been a J, but more likely was an, "H", Spooky.

 

[thf24]

One of the pilots was a former student and member of the FMB.

 

[ShrubDog]

Worked on both aircraft, both are fabulous at what they do. Apples/Oranges

Serious question. If it is so fabulous why was it scrapped?

My cousin was trained specifically for mechanical work on the F22 and he would probably disagree with you.

All I know is he was going down a long list of issues with the F22 and didn't like it all. That was his opinion. You worked on them as well and I don't know anything about them.

 

[RocketDawg]

Yes it was a C-130 and it was a prop not a jet. However it was Turbo. I am just happy the engine didn't fall off while it was flying over. Those things first saw action in mid 1950's.

Yeah, it's an old design but they're still building them. Chances are when you see one it's relatively new, and almost certainly not made in the '50s. One of the best planes ever made, and there are several different versions of them.

Speaking of which ... did they ever find out what happened to the one that crashed in the Delta a few months ago?

 

[fedxdog]

the pregame flyover was cancelled due to the low cloud ceiling that moved in prior to the game...after the clouds cleared enough they did the flyover...i saw picture of the crew the night before on FB...the C-130 was fairly new because it had the new style props.

 

[DAWGS1.sixpack]

Since it's a night game I think we should have 3 man parachute team jump into the stadium. The last time we beat a highly ranked uat squad at night that worked well for us, just not for one of the parachutist.

 

[Hugh's Burner Phone]

Since it's a night game I think we should have 3 man parachute team jump into the stadium. The last time we beat a highly ranked uat squad at night that worked well for us, just not for one of the parachutist.

I was at that game. It was that night I realized a human body could bounce.

 

[garndawg]

Serious question. If it is so fabulous why was it scrapped?

My cousin was trained specifically for mechanical work on the F22 and he would probably disagree with you.

All I know is he was going down a long list of issues with the F22 and didn't like it all. That was his opinion. You worked on them as well and I don't know anything about them.

Like any good systems engineer, the answer to your question is: It Depends.

Politics played a huge role killing the program. JSF was advertised as 'almost as good for half the price' back circa 2009, so what do we need this Gold Plated Swiss Army Knife of an airplane? How's that working out, BTW? Last I checked, the flyaway costs for JSF are now in the ballpark of what Raptors were delivering for back in 2010...

Early on in Raptor, there were a couple of subsystems that didn't have the service life they were designed for. The heat exchanger comes to mind. Those components were supposed to last the life of the airframe, so were squirreled away in areas very difficult to access. Took a couple of years to fix the reliability issues, but by 2008 a pretty good aircraft was rolling off the line.

Raptor does what it was designed to do better than anything else in the <acknowledged> sky.

Raptor clears the skies with a capability to drop certain bombs. It's role is air superiority, first, foremost, always.

JSF is a stealthy bomb truck with self defense capabilities. One caveat, the "B" variant is a truly fabulous aircraft.

Roles and missions: A four-ship of Raptors vs a four-ship of JSF isn't really a fair fight, as JSF isn't designed or intended to be an air superiority aircraft. Doesn't really matter if we're bombing camel-drivers in the desert, but against a near peer, we'll wish there was more than 184 F-22's.

 

[MrBigStuff]

Don't forget the multi-national aspect of F-35 (politics, source of funds). Regarding "high" maintenance of F-22s. Keeping super stealth at peak performance in the field is very difficult. It's one of the reasons we have such an advantage over our potential adversaries. Performance of the F-22 (stealth, supercruise, battlespace management) is unmatched. Most folks don't realize a supersonic airspace corridor runs from eastern Tennessee just west of Chattanooga into northeast Alabama. Each F-22 had to demonstrate the supercruise performance before USAF delivery in this corridor. These flights usually took place on Sundays. The blue hairs kept complaining about the sonic booms which really were not too severe given the high altitude these flights were conducted. The Chinese and North Koreans get really agitated when only 4 F22s deploy to Okinawa and with good reason.

From the MSU banner pic, the aircraft is indeed a C-130J-30, the "stretch" version.

 

[RocketDawg]

It needs to be windy, and the parachutist try landing downwind so he can be sure to stall the chute.

 

[BulldogBlitz]

Stingray could jump.

 

[ShrubDog]

Like any good systems engineer, the answer to your question is: It Depends.

Politics played a huge role killing the program. JSF was advertised as 'almost as good for half the price' back circa 2009, so what do we need this Gold Plated Swiss Army Knife of an airplane? How's that working out, BTW? Last I checked, the flyaway costs for JSF are now in the ballpark of what Raptors were delivering for back in 2010...

Early on in Raptor, there were a couple of subsystems that didn't have the service life they were designed for. The heat exchanger comes to mind. Those components were supposed to last the life of the airframe, so were squirreled away in areas very difficult to access. Took a couple of years to fix the reliability issues, but by 2008 a pretty good aircraft was rolling off the line.

Raptor does what it was designed to do better than anything else in the <acknowledged> sky.

Raptor clears the skies with a capability to drop certain bombs. It's role is air superiority, first, foremost, always.

JSF is a stealthy bomb truck with self defense capabilities. One caveat, the "B" variant is a truly fabulous aircraft.

Roles and missions: A four-ship of Raptors vs a four-ship of JSF isn't really a fair fight, as JSF isn't designed or intended to be an air superiority aircraft. Doesn't really matter if we're bombing camel-drivers in the desert, but against a near peer, we'll wish there was more than 184 F-22's.

Appreciate the information man.

Sounds like he was complaining about the issues when it was first launched, then some of them got ironed out a few years later.

 

[Palos verdes]

The Marine Corps is getting a performance upgrade with the JSF. It's a massive upgrade over the old AV-8B. The F-35 wouldn't win many gun fights against the Sukhoi family of fighters, but it's technology makes it an unparalleled strike package.

 

[T-45fixer]

You could have asked me!

 

[Longtime Lurker]

Since it's a night game I think we should have 3 man parachute team jump into the stadium. The last time we beat a highly ranked uat squad at night that worked well for us, just not for one of the parachutist.[/QUOTE

Yes! I was there too. When he was near the top of the goal post (From my perspective) his parachute lines were parallel to the ground. It was ugly. Article from the reflector attached.

 

[garndawg]

The Marine Corps is getting a performance upgrade with the JSF. It's a massive upgrade over the old AV-8B. The F-35 wouldn't win many gun fights against the Sukhoi family of fighters, but it's technology makes it an unparalleled strike package.

Completely concur. The "B" is simply marvelous. Unfortunately, the design compromises forced upon the "A" and "C" are pretty daunting. Foreign Military Sales (FMS in gov speak) are a huge driver for the decision, too. LockMart would much rather sell 2k JSF's than another 500 Raptors.

 

[AssEndDawg]

It needs to be windy, and the parachutist try landing downwind so he can be sure to stall the chute.

You can only land in Davis-Wade from the South side, so if the wind is out of the South it's either land downwind or not jump. My brother and I were both at the game and both long time skydivers (not any more, too old and too smart) and the second they announced the divers we looked at each other and said "WTF?". The conditions were not right to come into the stadium that night and the jump should have been cancelled. If I recall correctly, one diver bailed and landed somewhere else on campus entirely, one came in from the North side and just barely missed some power lines, and Mr. Famous came bouncing on in because he took the proper route just with horrible conditions. They are all lucky it wasn't worse.