What the ***k Coach Brown!?

Feb 15, 2005
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Just watched the replay of the game. The first half was utter garbage and Doege missed some basic throws, particularly the first 2 attempts to Ford-Wheaton. The line and Doege are absolutely embarrassing at reading pressure as TTU routinely showed where the pressure was coming from and no one bothered to do anything about it. The strip was blatantly obvious where the pressure was coming from and Doege just held the ball out there. On the 4th and 2 that Greene was in on, both O'Laughlin and Leddie missed the protection on TTU's Jeffers has he came up field. Wasted 2 timeouts in the second half due to not having any idea how to exchange personnel and get a play call in which is basic football and shouldn't be a problem half way into a season. Doege missed a wide open Brown AND a Wright walk in TD on that 3rd and goal play on WVU's last offensive drive.

Ultimately the point of the post's title is from the post game presser. Brown just talked about how great Doege played in the 2nd half and Doege did make some decent plays there. But a 5th year senior that has played at MOST one half a game competently across 4 consecutive FBS games is a PROBLEM. I don't care if he shows flashes of brilliance if the rest of the time he plays below average and makes mental errors that erase 10 good plays. I understand the need for coach speak and not trashing your player, but it makes you look utterly stupid and incompetent to point to Doege's mostly decent 2nd half as though it makes up for the 4 points he botched on the last drive and 7 he gave up with an incompetent strip sack in the first half. Not to mention all the garbage play he has had across the other 3 FBS games this season.
 

spartansstink

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I get what you're saying. I'd be ok with Brown giving the ole' coach speak during the post game conference if there was any indication he was riding asses on Sunday's film session. In Monday through Thursday practice. Just don't see that. Too nice a guy. Team has taken on the persona of the coach.

Maybe that's what is needed, though. Throw some kids under the bus. Nestor gets another costly false start he's going to be practicing for the cross country team. Doege's about as mentally tough as an octogenarian trying to figure out a cell phone. You get the idea...

Can't do that now. Too worried about hurting feelings. Worried about transferring. Don't know who, other than maybe Glenville, would want you. Bet you'd make a pretty homecoming queen there.

Retired Talley's number yesterday. Think he'd be saying something to someone? Lighting a fire? He'd probably be kicking some butt on the sideline and telling them its going to get worse in the locker room. Telling them you'd better just walk on home with your pads on - don't come into MY locker room or step foot on MY field again.

Need some of those folks right now.
 

WVUALLEN

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Just watched the replay of the game. The first half was utter garbage and Doege missed some basic throws, particularly the first 2 attempts to Ford-Wheaton. The line and Doege are absolutely embarrassing at reading pressure as TTU routinely showed where the pressure was coming from and no one bothered to do anything about it. The strip was blatantly obvious where the pressure was coming from and Doege just held the ball out there. On the 4th and 2 that Greene was in on, both O'Laughlin and Leddie missed the protection on TTU's Jeffers has he came up field. Wasted 2 timeouts in the second half due to not having any idea how to exchange personnel and get a play call in which is basic football and shouldn't be a problem half way into a season. Doege missed a wide open Brown AND a Wright walk in TD on that 3rd and goal play on WVU's last offensive drive.

Ultimately the point of the post's title is from the post game presser. Brown just talked about how great Doege played in the 2nd half and Doege did make some decent plays there. But a 5th year senior that has played at MOST one half a game competently across 4 consecutive FBS games is a PROBLEM. I don't care if he shows flashes of brilliance if the rest of the time he plays below average and makes mental errors that erase 10 good plays. I understand the need for coach speak and not trashing your player, but it makes you look utterly stupid and incompetent to point to Doege's mostly decent 2nd half as though it makes up for the 4 points he botched on the last drive and 7 he gave up with an incompetent strip sack in the first half. Not to mention all the garbage play he has had across the other 3 FBS games this season.
25-33 for 318 yards 75.9% completion rate 1 TD 1 fumble that lead to a TD. QBT of 66.9

Looks like a great game but the misses he had were mind boggling. Once again missing a wide open man in the end zone. Throwing the ball away instead of spiking it. His 3rd quarter was the best he's played in the 15 games he's started. Do you continue to lose with Doege or put in Greene and lose?

Those stats look impressive but if you're not scoring what good are they.
 
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25-33 for 318 yards 75.9% completion rate 1 TD 1 fumble that lead to a TD. QBT of 66.9

Looks like a great game but the misses he had were mind boggling. Once again missing a wide open man in the end zone. Throwing the ball away instead of spiking it. His 3rd quarter was the best he's played in the 15 games he's started. Do you continue to lose with Doege or put in Greene and lose?

Those stats look impressive but if you're not scoring what good are they.

That's exactly the point. If he plays great in spurts, but completely hobbles the offense outside of that, who cares? The fact that he has not played a complete FBS game competently this season as a 5th year senior is a problem. It's like a business ... even if I bring in more money than any of the other employees but cost twice as much as I pull in, I'm not an asset then. Same with Doege. Flashes of good play are not compensating for his poor play
 

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Obviously Brown has not developed any QBS and doesn't seem to be capable there. Doege must have worse stats now than at Bowling Green.

WVUs Greene can scramble around but isn't particularly tall and we haven't seen much in the way of passing ability.

So even if you bench Doege, then what? Scrambling (unless its Pat White) isn't going to get you too many wins in the BIG 12 without good passing to go with it.
 

WVUALLEN

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Obviously Brown has not developed any QBS and doesn't seem to be capable there. Doege must have worse stats now than at Bowling Green.

WVUs Greene can scramble around but isn't particularly tall and we haven't seen much in the way of passing ability.

So even if you bench Doege, then what? Scrambling (unless its Pat White) isn't going to get you too many wins in the BIG 12 without good passing to go with it.
Shut up dumbass troll.
 
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You can’t much stock into what NB says at presser as to individual players. He’s not going to throw his qb under the bus. And I forgot fact, it would be a bad look to do so. There is plenty of other criticism that is deserved including the other stuff you pointed out. One of the Most disturbing things is the difficulty/ delay in getting plays called in. That’s the underlying cause of wasting so many timeouts. It also seems like when we do make some nice plays, we go to slow and have no rhythm. When we were down 17, we showed we can run vertical routes and throw the ball downfield and score. The ‘metrics’ game is over analyzing. Sometimes you have to open things up to succeed.