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"A little improvement from our inside men and a few hot outside players and a steady Briscoe and I like their chances"

So you're telling me there's a chance.
 
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Schwagg

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1). This team is not tough. More like marshmallow soft.

2). Lack of leadership.

3). Shi!!y defense. No hard fouls. How many freakin layups can u give up each game.

4). Boards. No boxing out or winning 50/50 balls. Rebounding is mostly position & effort. Florida dominated the boards & the game.

5). Half court offense. ??????

6). Inability to develop post play. Bam is regressing. Hump is not good. Gabriel is shooting 3's. Sacha is on a milk carton.

7). Lack of consistent outside shooting.

8). Cal's inability to change tactics ingame.
 

CrustyCat

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First off, not firing Cal etc. But something is amiss and really wrong with this team. Sickness has been a part of it, but we are not the same team as before. Not even close. We are so disjointed on offense and defense. Cal is concerned, he said so on post game.

This team was very good, fun to watch and seemed to be having fun. Now it's the total opposite. Something is going on. Everyone lays a stinker, but whatever is going on is not a one game issue.

I think when Cal began forcing the issue with having the ball go thru Bam it took away our free flowing guards and disrupted things.

My thought is the early season was fool's gold and we simply aren't very good as a team. Talent in some areas and some of that talent is one-dimensional. There has been no growth and development in any player's skill set.

It happens. We should all know by now that the all-freshmen thing is not going to work every year. If we had only Ulis back, I think this year is different; he would not allow this crap to happen.
 

Meikeljohn

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Man this sounds like the Lexington I grew up in. In sure pitino is on his way back because why not
 

The_Catfather

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I thought coming into the season that Gabriel and SKJ would be more-talented Marcus Lees and provide some low post scoring, good defense and shot-blocking. Fast forward a few months, and Gabriel would rather camp out on the 3-point line, can't guard anyone on the other end, and SKJ is essentially the 12th man. I still think this team can turn things around defensively, particularly on the perimeter, but the frontcourt is a disaster. It rivals last season, which I never thought would happen again under Cal.
 
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Cbbcrazy2

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If your game plan is to force it into the paint to get points from someone who struggles to do anything other than dunk. You may need a new plan, we have lost 3 of the last 4. Chemistry is shot for this team, major changes need to be made or this team will get an early off season imo.
 

dgtatu01

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Honestly they are the same team I saw in early November. There has been no improvement at all. They don't have any chemistry at all. When they have to deal with offensive adversity they stop playing defense. If you stop playing defense for long stretches when baskets aren't dropping you're going to go on these 10-15 minute stretches they have had all season where the score swings 20-30 points.
 

carolinacat

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I said the same thing. Since Diallo came on, Briscoe started playing like what and it's rolled downhill. Briscoe is jealous of Diallo
How can Briscoe be jealous of a guy who isn't playing? And won't play at all this year per Cal?
 
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OldRed

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I see a team that right now doesn't realize that there is no "I" in it. Because of that they aren't putting out the effort to cover for each other. When Bam got the ball tipped away from him and it lead to a 5 on 1 fast break for Florida, it was pretty obvious they weren't playing for each other. Part of this is they are mostly young. Unfortunately, I don't see that they have an attitude that really hates losing. I see "there will be another (AAU) game to showcase my skills later" attitude. If that continues, the team goes nowhere fast. Hopefully, they've hit bottom and Calipari can get through to them. There was really not much fight out there last night.
 

144catfan

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This team is going to go as far as Fox and a hot shooting Monk can carry it. Which if we are lucky may get us to the sweet 16, but it wouldn't shock me a bit if we were sent home in the first weekend.

There are roughly 5 weeks left in the regular season and Bam isn't suddenly going to develop Olajuwan skills, Willis and Briscoe are what they are, defense suddenly is not going to get better which Cal also realizes since he is now trying zone out to stop the layup lines.
It's quite a mess honestly that this team is racing towards double digit losses.
All we can hope is Monk goes nuclear come March.
 

fabcat

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Our schedule has been brutal for the last few weeks too.
KU
At UF

At UT is never a picnic for U.K.

Factor in the toughness of the schedule and Fox being hobbled and sick as well as Mulder and it's not surprising we have struggled.

Some of you guys are way overthinking the last few weeks.

Seriously.

And we have won what 1 game, and very lucky to do that. UK has had tougher stretches than this and not been manhandled like this team has.
 

KWilt43atbuzz

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And we have won what 1 game, and very lucky to do that. UK has had tougher stretches than this and not been manhandled like this team has.
Tougher stretches with a beat up PG and mono stricken 6th or 7th man?
Don't think so.
 

Randy Bob

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Looks to me there is no leadership starting at the top, Cal is the coach, he has 5 stars players, I know they are fresh. but the have Brisco, Willis, Hawk, Mudler, this did not start last night this was going when they started giving up big leads many games ago, finally catching up with them at Tn. Cal is the coach and he is the only one who can fix it..
 

fabcat

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Tougher stretches with a beat up PG and mono stricken 6th or 7th man?
Don't think so.

Quit making excuses. This team has issues. They are just being exposed. And we weren't relying on Mulder at the beginning of the year. If our season comes down to the health of Mulder then this team is in bigger trouble than even I believe. They don't guard.
 
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KWilt43atbuzz

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Quit making excuses. This team has issues. They are just being exposed. And we weren't relying on Mulder at the beginning of the year. If our season comes down to the health of Mulder then this team is in bigger trouble than even I believe. They don't guard.
Having a hurt and sick PG who by the way is the second best player on the team maybe the best is not an excuse it's a fact.
Stop being so negative and look at the circumstances.

If Fox and Mulder had been 100% the last two weeks ok....

 

shutzhund

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The usual, sofa bound, malcontents of the BBN beginning to turn on their own. Who would have guessed? Who wouldn't have known?
 
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fabcat

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Having a hurt and sick PG who by the way is the second best player on the team maybe the best is not an excuse it's a fact.
Stop being so negative and look at the circumstances.

If Fox and Mulder had been 100% the last two weeks ok....



I'm not being negative. I'm being real. I'm not going to say all is well when it is not. That's complete BS that losers do. We have issues and until they are corrected they will continue to get beat. Plain and simple. And until this team decides it wants to guard someone we will continue to get beat by equal or better teams. If you think all is well that's fine, I'm just not in that camp. If that makes me negative in your eyes that's fine also. Could care less.
 

Big10Cat

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It's all part and parcel of depending on freshmen. Some arrive "as good as advertised" Others, not so much. I would have not anticipated one of our 5-stars would be on a milk carton this far into the season. Couple that with then trying to force players into roles for which they are not suited (Skal as a post-up last year) and it only exacerbates the deficiencies. So now we have a tentative team lacking in confidence. I certainly hope coaches and players can figure it out. We shall see.
 

qwesley

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I think Bam's camp complained to Cal around the break. He mentioned some were worried about their draft projection. That is when we started forcing it into the post.
 
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kevcat

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It's just not a very well rounded squad. We've got two point guards that can't shoot and are turnover prone. We've got a great two guard that never met a shot he didn't like. We've got exactly one scoring threat in the post and he doesn't score unless it's a dunk. He has zero post moves. We've got two stretch fours that prefer shooting from the perimeter. Oh, our best rebounder is a 6'3" point guard. That's NOT a positive. But the biggest problem? Too many players with no heart for the college game. We've got a few that already have one foot out the door and it's very obvious. You can't win titles with this team.

Oh, most importantly, this team couldn't guard a tree stump.
You absolutely nailed it. I read your post and had to look who posted it, because I thought maybe I had, because it's exactly the problems I see with this team.

Nice job.
 
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jc4uk

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Persoally, I see a bad case of prima dona-ism. Particularly from our two most important players, Monk and Fox. Our ridiculous youth with no upperclassmen stepping up in a significant way puts us in a bad position. They have no safety net, no rudder to right the ship. This time of year everyone else has improved. We haven't. The going gets much tougher at this point and when things don't go right for these guys, they revert to AAU ball. I'm pretty sure AAU stands for ALL ABOUT URSELF.

The short answer is we aren't a team, we're a cobbled together group of players. I doubt seriously if Cal can salvage this season. I just don't see the necessary desire, determination or toughness from this group. We'll make the tournament as a 4-5 seed and we'll be lucky to make the sweet 16. I expect a first weekend exit. Next group of freshmen up, I guess, but to be frank, I'm really tired of Cals flawed philosophy for team building.

Oh, one other thing. This idea of positionless basketball isn't helping. We have no center and no 3. We have 3 pf's, 2 pg's and a sg in the first 6. None if them are consistent shooters. I think the team is fatally flawed but I'll root for them every game, same as always
Thank you for this post...nails it IMO. The rest of the season is not going to be pleasant because nothing is going to change.
 
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It's just not a very well rounded squad. We've got two point guards that can't shoot and are turnover prone. We've got a great two guard that never met a shot he didn't like. We've got exactly one scoring threat in the post and he doesn't score unless it's a dunk. He has zero post moves. We've got two stretch fours that prefer shooting from the perimeter. Oh, our best rebounder is a 6'3" point guard. That's NOT a positive. But the biggest problem? Too many players with no heart for the college game. We've got a few that already have one foot out the door and it's very obvious. You can't win titles with this team.

Oh, most importantly, this team couldn't guard a tree stump.
A little harsh, perhaps, but this morning it sounds just about right.

I think after a little scouting it became pretty easy to slow us down and take away our biggest weapon, transition. If the game isn't in the 80s, we don't stand much of a chance against a very good team.
 

throatpoker

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I think Bam's camp complained to Cal around the break. He mentioned some were worried about their draft projection. That is when we started forcing it into the post.

Pebble's camp wasn't the only one calling for us to force the ball to him. There was thread after thread on this board about it. Problem is he has zero basketball skills.
 

UKCatNnc

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For one Jed our AA PG has been hobbled by injury and sickness for two weeks and during that time we have played tough teams, some very tough.

Plus Mulder has been out during that stretch.

I don't think it's much more than that.
I hope you are right KWilt43atbuzz. Go Cats!!
 

UKCatNnc

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A little harsh, perhaps, but this morning it sounds just about right.

I think after a little scouting it became pretty easy to slow us down and take away our biggest weapon, transition. If the game isn't in the 80s, we don't stand much of a chance against a very good team.
Last night's game was in the 80s. - Just not for the Cats. Go Cats!!
 

Chuckinden

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We go as far as Monk takes us. There is no one else to go to for scoring when Monk is having an off night. It's amazing to me that some of these guys are 5* players.

Cal's strategy, or lack thereof, is not hard to figure out. Transition and pushing the ball up the court is our strongest point and opponents know what they have to do to stop it. We certainly don't have any half court offense.
 

throatpoker

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Last night's game was in the 80s. - Just not for the Cats. Go Cats!!
 
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allabouttheUK

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This is a title team, if I've ever seen one. They are superior athletically to everyone so they get bored sometimes. this is all part of the master plan to take focus off the team so they can sneak up on people in the tourney!
 

qwesley

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Pebble's camp wasn't the only one calling for us to force the ball to him. There was thread after thread on this board about it. Problem is he has zero basketball skills.
yep but catpaw threads don't influence anything
 

BlueRunner11

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Cal let the cat out of the bag in his post game presser against UT? KU? When he said certain guys were worried about their futures.

Cal puts himself in almost damn near impossible situation because he has to "make it happen" for certain guys on the team but he also has to "make it happen" for the University and the BBN. The problem is, sometimes those two things can't coexist in a particular season. I think Cal tries to straddle the line between the two and then you get what youre seeing.

99 percent of this board realizes Briscoe should be backing up Fox. Common sense we need more than one shooter on the floor at all times, but this will never happen.

Bams post moves or lack thereof has been an eye opener. We have zero post presence and are trying run our offense like we have KAT down there. Craziness.

Last year, Skal shouldn't have sniffed the floor being out rebounded all year by Tyler Ulis. Those minutes should've went to developing Hump/Tai and maybe they would be further along this year, but that never happened.

Love the idea of being a players first program. The problem seems to be imo, its only certain types of players that qualify.
 
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RACdad

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I said the same thing. Since Diallo came on, Briscoe started playing like what and it's rolled downhill. Briscoe is jealous of Diallo
If this is the case, i dont understand why? Diallo isnt playing. But maybe he does
 

turkeywildturkey

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First off, not firing Cal etc. But something is amiss and really wrong with this team. Sickness has been a part of it, but we are not the same team as before. Not even close. We are so disjointed on offense and defense. Cal is concerned, he said so on post game.

This team was very good, fun to watch and seemed to be having fun. Now it's the total opposite. Something is going on. Everyone lays a stinker, but whatever is going on is not a one game issue.

I think when Cal began forcing the issue with having the ball go thru Bam it took away our free flowing guards and disrupted things.

They don't rebound, play defense, or play extremely hard. Until that changes, we're in for a short NCAA run.
 
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Before the season started I watched the videos of the players on CoachCal.com.

One thing stood out that made me think "uh-oh"

Both Fox and Briscoe more of less stated that they were planning on being the team leader. At this point I don't know if either is capable of being the team leader. But it just may be that the lack of a defined leader for this team has caused some bad chemistry with everybody on it.

This team has never formed into a cohesive unit--and doing so is always a determining factor for success. Especially for these young teams that Kentucky fields every year.

This team is 5 individuals playing out on the floor. That's not a team.

It's the same thing wrong with Duke. Any other Duke team with that much talent, playing at home, with it being Krybabyshitski's first game back, would have annihilated a 10-loss Pitt.