What if I told you...

Go Budaw

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That, for two years of no bowl games and 13 scholarships over 3 years, MSU could have free reign to amass enough talent to go to back to back NY6 bowls, and would win a division title and SEC title if they could stop one 4th and 26 play? Every MSU fan would take it. Therefore, the cheating in and of itself was definitely worth it.

“But but but....they had to fire Freeze! Their recruiting is in the dumps!”

Both are true. And both are the result of self-inflicted damage by OM by doing the following:

1) Publicly and privately placing blame for the investigation on past administration (leading to Nutt lawsuit, which led to hooker phone call discovery).
2) Lying to recruits about the investigation.
3) Suing student athletes from other institutions.
4) Secretly recording conversations with recruits and their families.

Without all of the above, Hugh Freeze is still at OM right now running the network (missing only the first 2 conference games next season), their 2018 recruiting is slightly behind but able to quickly recover before both signing days, and all they are out is two mediocre bowl game appearances and the lost talent from the 2017 class. That’s it.

The point is that you have to segregate the damage from the NCAA and the damage that OM has done to themselves in this whole deal. The cheating is worth it, and from this point forward it always will be until the current enforcement model is scrapped. Just don’t take turns stepping on your own dicks when the heat gets turned up a bit, and you’ll be fine. That’s my take from all of this.
 

tatedog

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Pretty good summary. If Ole Miss had semi-competent leadership they could have come out of this smelling like a 17ing rose.
 

Ishmael

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State went to a NY6 Bowl, the same number of SEC Championship games, and had more wins over this period. I just don’t see how these penalties would have been worth one more NY6 Bowl and a couple wins over Alabama.
 

wsjmsu75

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Sep 29, 2017
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State went to a NY6 Bowl, the same number of SEC Championship games, and had more wins over this period. I just don’t see how these penalties would have been worth one more NY6 Bowl and a couple wins over Alabama.

Plus, a no. 1 ranking for 5 weeks in 2014, which they have never achieved since the days of Moses.
 

Crazy Cotton

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And Hevesey isn't our new head coach. That one is worth a whole lot to me. I don't know that I believe Freeze keeps his job if they don't screw up or not. And it actually means something to me that the team I root for (because I actually went to school there) isn't known nationally as a blatant cheater willing to lie, cheat and steal to win a few more 17n football games. If State had done what ole miss did, regardless of any penalties, I would stop giving a **** about State football, and probably about the school altogether.
 
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