I know a lot of people on here blame the offensive line and running backs but I think it's something else. We started this skid at the end of last year. Remember bama, arky, tsun, Georgia tech? Did mullen change his philosophy or were we just fortunate at the beginning of last year? The year before last we didn't look great offensively either. Just wanted some of you guys take on it. I'm talking some serious thorough research or something. Dan used to be known as a offensive guru but I believe defense coordinators have figured him out. He needs to talk to some guys during the summer and figure this out. Maybe we need to hire a offensive coordinator.
what has happened to the offense?
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No offense needed today, just win.
The Oline is not very good, Running backs are not good either (to go with it)
When all of the glitter is gone, it just comes down to blocking and tackling.
We can expect an up and down year.
The Oline is not very good, Running backs are not good either (to go with it)
When all of the glitter is gone, it just comes down to blocking and tackling.
We can expect an up and down year.
Bingo. We did a ****** job of recruiting in 12 and 13 on the OL.
Between Carter, Thomas, and Senior, somebody should have been good enough to start at LT.
Yes it is bad but last year we struggled and the end. Last year people were saying our line was great. We had Jrob too. So why the drop off? Personally I think it comes down to play calling and not playing the best players. Play calling being the biggest factor. Seems like we never attack vertically. We take that 5-7 yard pass all the time but we never go deep, maybe once or twice a game. We need to be throwing it deep constantly. I'm talking on first down go deep. It would make the defense have to worry about it then it would loosen up it up front and give us a lot of options. We just play TOO safe. I want a attacking offense, score in bunches type. I really think that's our problem. Pisses me off when we have the players to do just that. Gray, Ross, heck let Holloway go deep (isn't he one of the fastest on the teams).
Play calling still baffles me.
Against Auburn we had lots of success with bubble screens, got 4 to 5 yards every time. We have not used it much at all since.
Against Arkansas in 2012, 2013, and 2014 we have thrown a lot of seam routs with our RBs out of the back field, but we NEVER use those plays for any other opponent.
Against Kentucky we seem to always go into the game wanting to run the ball 70% of the time---screw balance. We never really take that game plan with another opponent.
I know we are trying to "exploit" something we see on film but it is so damn frustrating to see something work so well one weekend and then NEVER see it again the rest of the year.
Against Auburn we had lots of success with bubble screens, got 4 to 5 yards every time. We have not used it much at all since.
Against Arkansas in 2012, 2013, and 2014 we have thrown a lot of seam routs with our RBs out of the back field, but we NEVER use those plays for any other opponent.
Against Kentucky we seem to always go into the game wanting to run the ball 70% of the time---screw balance. We never really take that game plan with another opponent.
I know we are trying to "exploit" something we see on film but it is so damn frustrating to see something work so well one weekend and then NEVER see it again the rest of the year.
Walley is our 3rd leading receiver in # catches and he's only played in 3 games. He's missed the last two. Hutcherson isn't targeted at all. That short throw to the tight end gets positive yards and keeps you moving on third down. I'm interested to see if it changes things when we get him back.
It seems like every throw to Donald Grey is either a TD or a 50 yd gain. How is not a starter continues to baffle me. I swear, if MSU had the 90's version of Jerry Rice as a 1st year WR, he wouldn't see significant playing time.
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You can complain about anything and you pick the WR Corp? I know Fred Brown hasn't done a ton this year, but that's less an indictment on him and more of a result of having two REALLY good receivers playing along side of him. I've never been one to use my vast knowledge of offensive philosophies, my countless hours of practice preparations, and my track record of success to question million dollar coaches. But it's time for Dontavion Lee to be our starting running back. I don't care if we have to employ a blocking TE, we need the inside running game threat.
The WR corp is not the point of my criticism. My point is that more talented players ride the pine. It's the same point you made about Dontavian Lee being our starting RB. Also, while our WR's did well against Troy, a game-changer like Grey didn't see much PTagainst A&M. Even with our most talented players on the field, I don't know if it can overcome our play calling.
Gray played a good bit against A & M. He just wasn't open or targeted but was playing more than you think I believe.
As evidenced by many on this board, throwing deep is a wasted play. Dak is the greatest all round Qb state has ever had, but he struggles badly with a deep ball. He way overthrows. I would rather see more passes like we threw to #4 last year. The deep ball has put us in 2nd and long situations that always seems to be Shump or Holloway up the middle for 0 and 3rd and long that goes for 2 yards.
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