What does MJ do next week ?

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If the rumors are true about Whip, does he make move now?

What can you do in an off week to improve the O-line? Do you start getting the unknowns ready for the gauntlet?

This bye-week will stamp his candidacy for the permanent spot.
 
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If the rumors are true about Whip, does he make move now?

What can you do in an off week to improve the O-line? Do you start getting the unknowns ready for the gauntlet?

This bye-week will stamp his candidacy for the permanent spot.
The trouble with firing any more coaches right now is that it is impossible to go out on the open market and get a new coach to step in. Especially since there is a high likelihood of getting fired at the end of the season. You need to simply rearrange the deck chairs and promote from within. Which means you cannot fire Whipple and Raiola right now unless you have another coach already on staff who can be the offensive coordinator, O-line coach, AND whatever it is they are currently coaching (e.g. running backs).
 
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The trouble with firing any more coaches right now is that it is impossible to go out on the open market and get a new coach to step in. Especially since there is a high likelihood of getting fired at the end of the season. You need to simply rearrange the deck chairs and promote from within. Which means you cannot fire Whipple and Raiola right now unless you have another coach already on staff who can be the offensive coordinator, O-line coach, AND whatever it is they are currently coaching (e.g. running backs).
Probably bad wording on my behalf, if Whip steps down, what does he do?
 

Husker.Wed._rivals

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Maybe we should wait to see how the Purdue game goes before looking for a new OC. I'm not sure what people want Whipple to do differently. Run the damn ball? That is hard when the back runs into a brick wall each time. Run the ball wide? We could probably try that more. More screens? One screen I recall Friday was one piss poor block from being a huge gainer. More trick plays? The reverse halfback pass they tried Friday got blown up. More quick passes? Maybe. More ZRs and QB runs? CT is already walking wounded. Maybe put Smothers in for a few series.

Whipple has forgotten more about offense than most of us will ever know. I'm sure if getting the O to work better were easy he would figure it out. I'm not real high on his style of football, but the guy is competent IMHO.
 

Tjlskers526

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Maybe we should wait to see how the Purdue game goes before looking for a new OC. I'm not sure what people want Whipple to do differently. Run the damn ball? That is hard when the back runs into a brick wall each time. Run the ball wide? We could probably try that more. More screens? One screen I recall Friday was one piss poor block from being a huge gainer. More trick plays? The reverse halfback pass they tried Friday got blown up. More quick passes? Maybe. More ZRs and QB runs? CT is already walking wounded. Maybe put Smothers in for a few series.

Whipple has forgotten more about offense than most of us will ever know. I'm sure if getting the O to work better were easy he would figure it out. I'm not real high on his style of football, but the guy is competent IMHO.
I think he's more talking about the health concerns that have been rumored and if Whipple will step awy
 

BleedRed78

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They might just need to simplify the offense more for now like defense did.

Ask the players what plays they generally like thus far into the season. Compare to film. Are they high percentage plays? If so, return and structure the whole O around those key plays.

Seems crossing routes have been key for CT who is rather short behind a bafoonishly tall oline. Pop pass to the TE has worked well too at times.
 

inWV

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If the rumors are true about Whip, does he make move now?

What can you do in an off week to improve the O-line? Do you start getting the unknowns ready for the gauntlet?

This bye-week will stamp his candidacy for the permanent spot.
Busch had previous experience in coordinating defenses. I do not believe there is anyone other than Whipple with play calling experience. Dude is older with some mobility issues. It's not like he has dementia.
 

inWV

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Maybe we should wait to see how the Purdue game goes before looking for a new OC. I'm not sure what people want Whipple to do differently. Run the damn ball? That is hard when the back runs into a brick wall each time. Run the ball wide? We could probably try that more. More screens? One screen I recall Friday was one piss poor block from being a huge gainer. More trick plays? The reverse halfback pass they tried Friday got blown up. More quick passes? Maybe. More ZRs and QB runs? CT is already walking wounded. Maybe put Smothers in for a few series.

Whipple has forgotten more about offense than most of us will ever know. I'm sure if getting the O to work better were easy he would figure it out. I'm not real high on his style of football, but the guy is competent IMHO.
B1G Ds generally are good at stretching the stuff to the sidelines out. But with Grant's jump cutting abilities, there may be creases to be found. Grant catching stuff on the perimeter has potential if the WRs get their blocking done. And yes, Thompson has to take more yardage with his feet. In order to beat the teams that remain, I see that as an option that must be employed. I doubt Whipple feels comfortable with calling them, but there are aspects of the run game from Frost's playbook that could be very useful.
 

TruHusker

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If he could actually fix the OL problem, don't you think he would have done it by now? It is the Achilles heal of this team.
 

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More moving the pocket, more TE help in pass pro. can we throw an extra back in there to help? Throw in some early QB draw or designed runs. Keep them honest. Maybe Fidone comes back this week or before the next game and can help us out a little?
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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More moving the pocket, more TE help in pass pro. can we throw an extra back in there to help? Throw in some early QB draw or designed runs. Keep them honest. Maybe Fidone comes back this week or before the next game and can help us out a little?
Moving the pocket is risky when it's 75/25 at least one guard and 50/50 the guard and tackle will both whiff?

The NU pocket moves because the pocket disintegrates in 3,2,1.
 

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I'll just take one QB keep to the outside fir 3 yards as a threat to slow the flow of the Dse and linebackers.

Just one.
 
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If he could actually fix the OL problem, don't you think he would have done it by now? It is the Achilles heal of this team.
Watched a video today where it showed they are pulling lineman to do pass blocking... not sure this is sound fundamental football. I think they need to get back to KISS football. They are also moving the lineman to different positions in the same drive.
 

TruHusker

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Watched a video today where it showed they are pulling lineman to do pass blocking... not sure this is sound fundamental football. I think they need to get back to KISS football. They are also moving the lineman to different positions in the same drive.
Part of the pulling is to get the DL to slow and wonder why the OL is pulling and where is the play headed. If the guy you are heads up on leaves to go away from you, you automatically suspect something is up. Obviously you don't have multiple OL pulling in any given play. It actually becomes more of a trap situation. Not sure we have the fundamentals, body control and overall ability to break down and operate in space.
 
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Part of the pulling is to get the DL to slow and wonder why the OL is pulling and where is the play headed. If the guy you are heads up on leaves to go away from you, you automatically suspect something is up. Obviously you don't have multiple OL pulling in any given play. It actually becomes more of a trap situation. Not sure we have the fundamentals, body control and overall ability to break down and operate in space.
they whiffed on their blocks and let CT get smacked... This is why the play calling is suspect, you have to play what you are dealt or go down in flames when you bluff. Keep It Simple Stupid...
 

dinglefritz

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Part of the pulling is to get the DL to slow and wonder why the OL is pulling and where is the play headed. If the guy you are heads up on leaves to go away from you, you automatically suspect something is up. Obviously you don't have multiple OL pulling in any given play. It actually becomes more of a trap situation. Not sure we have the fundamentals, body control and overall ability to break down and operate in space.
Charlie McBride talked a little about moving the O linemen in order to slow down the pass rush on the radio a few days ago.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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Charlie McBride talked a little about moving the O linemen in order to slow down the pass rush on the radio a few days ago.
Charlie would know about different tactics teams used over the years to slow down the Huskers pass rush and what made it harder to rush their QB.

Milt and Tom used different blocking schemes from week to week that was specific to the type defense an opponent played or while trying to neutralize a dominant type defender.

Tom wasn't opposed to changing the gaps in the OLmen against certain teams.

NU just has to commit to running the ball. Yes, NU struggles but the closer the OLmen stay in physical contact with the DL the better the chance of moving the ball.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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Charlie McBride talked a little about moving the O linemen in order to slow down the pass rush on the radio a few days ago.
I think Bando at LT and Corcoran at LG is a much stronger combo than Corcoran at LT and Piper at LG.

I'm shocked that Piper is the best LG NU can come up with. He's done nothing but whiff for a year and a half. Good kid, was athletic when he got here, but has seemed to have lost a lot of his athleticism.

If, in fact, Benhart had narrowed it down to NU and Michigan it tells me that Benhart has a lot more than he's shown.

Michigan has developed a really good OL in the last 2 years, so their coaching has to be far superior to what we are seeing here week to week.
 

dinglefritz

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I think Bando at LT and Corcoran at LG is a much stronger combo than Corcoran at LT and Piper at LT.

I'm shocked that Piper is the best LG NU can come up with. He's done nothing but whiff for a year and a half. Good kid, was athletic when he got here, but has seemed to have lost a lot of his athleticism.

If, in fact, Benhart had narrowed it down to NU and Michigan it tells me that Benhart has a lot more than he's shown.

Michigan has developed a really good OL in the last 2 years, so their coaching has to be far superior to what we are seeing here week to week.
Michigan has been landing top4 and 5 star O linemen for a decade. Their issue had been QB until recently
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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Watched a video today where it showed they are pulling lineman to do pass blocking... not sure this is sound fundamental football. I think they need to get back to KISS football. They are also moving the lineman to different positions in the same drive.
I'd still like to see NU line up with a wide out on each side, slot a TE on each side of the formation. That would allow a TE to help either OT, help block the perimeter or chip block a defender and slip out and catch the ball on a flare pass.

Any way you slice it, the defense has to man up on Palmer and Washington/Brown/Hill, and they still need support from the safety or safeties.

It's no different than when TO used to run the pitch plays to the short side of the field, the defense was always going to be one man short.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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Michigan has been landing top4 and 5 star O linemen for a decade. Their issue had been QB until recently
That's why I'm saying Michigan was after Benhart so they seen something more than what we've been seeing from him. And they do typically put out good OL's, they seem to be improving their OL as time goes on.

(I go back to Dan Dierdorf and Tony Mandarich, so I know what you mean).
 

timnsun

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That's why I'm saying Michigan was after Benhart so they seen something more than what we've been seeing from him. And they do typically put out good OL's, they seem to be improving their OL as time goes on.

(I go back to Dan Dierdorf and Tony Mandarich, so I know what you mean).
Wasn’t Mandarich at Michigan State? And yes, I remember Benhart being courted by Michigan as well.