Listen, Rutgers didn't deserve to win today. They played terrible offensively, but they had cut to 12 or 10 and got a stop on a crazy block by Austin Williams. From my vantage, it looked like he just celebrated the block and then got a T for it, which basically creamed any hope for a comeback. No Tech, if RU scores, it's potentially single digits and all the pressure is on Maryland... but that T got them refocused. Was it a BS call?
What did Austin Williams say?
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It was an absolutely stupid technical but bolded is absurd IMO. He blocked it out of bounds so MD was getting the ball back anyway. Maryland made 1 of 2 FT. The technical cost us exactly one point. It's not the reason we weren't able to sustain a comeback from more than 20 points down.
Also there was a similarly stupid technical called on Maryland earlier in the game and we made both FTs.
Sorry, I couldn't remember the exact circumstances in a blow out and I apologize for being "absurd." I thought he blocked it and caught it and they called the T.
Your response makes it sound like you took my post to be meaner than I meant it to be. Perhaps absurd is too strong a word. But it really didn’t cost us much and I don’t think the rest of the game is attributable to that at all. We made a good run, it was never likely we were going to able to sustain all the way coming back from 21 down.. that’s almost half the points we scored in the entire game lol
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Absurd is a pretty strong word. Let's say we get a stop there after the block. The crowd is going wild and we go down and score... pressure is on MD. I'm not saying we win, but it probably turns into a much closer game.
It was one point...we stopped them and blew an easy layup in transition..game over
You guys are right, it’s totally not possible that humans gets deflated for reasons. I think analytics help but I think momentum and emotion exist too.
I didn’t say we would win. But it felt like the turning point/last gasp for RU.
You have to wonder if Maryland hit both free throws instead of only 1 they might’ve went on to win by 30.
The RAC and players really starting to come on - I disagree that momentum is an illusion. That call seemed to stop what momentum we did have - YES we were a hot mess on offense and in no way did we deserve to win. However if you make that call on Austin Williams, you could have made that call on Julian Reese like 15 times over - guy was a head case the last time he was here, and it doesn't seem much has changed.
it one was tech, they made a stop and then blew an easy layup so no I dont see how the tech played a role really....i think blowing a layup was more important but I could count a hundred thing in this game
It stopped the crowd, gave them a chance for points without defense. And the energy RU was playing with deflates because now they’re mad at the refs.
it didnt stop the crowd..the crowd was louder than ever at that point booing the refs and helping us make back to back blocks
it was blowing a layup, then fouling 2x then missing another layup and then its 52-37
bottom line is the team wasnt putting the ball in the hoops...a perfect comeback would save seen a J Will layup after back to back blocks, once that didnt happen, yes momentum was gone but i dont really see what the technical did but give them one point. RU would go 3:40 with a point
I encourage people who think momentum in sports is very important to do some gambling (please play responsibly). Spend some time playing poker or blackjack or whatever. You will FEEL the momentum in the cards. You will have times when you feel like your flush draw is 85% to hit and times when you feel like it is basically 0%. Even if you know better, this will feel real.
This doesn’t disprove the existence or importance of momentum in sports, because sports are not a series of pure random events. But what it does do is show you how easy it is to perceive momentum even when you know it doesn’t exist. This would hopefully encourage you to look in data for signs of momentum (the data is not supportive) rather than relying on feelings.
The block was a great play, 10 out of 10....the bench gave the team a boost and better play, but it couldn't be sustained for 10 to 14 minutes. The starters have to play better, so when those game changing, momentum plays happen with players off the bench, we're not down 12 to 15, we're down 3 to 5 points.
It would have taken a total Maryland collapse to cough up an 18 point lead. We got down 13 to Northwestern and JWill made a similar block, but 18 point deficits rarely get erased.....12 to 13 point deficits with 14 minutes left is also extremely difficult to overcome.
It would have taken a total Maryland collapse to cough up an 18 point lead. We got down 13 to Northwestern and JWill made a similar block, but 18 point deficits rarely get erased.....12 to 13 point deficits with 14 minutes left is also extremely difficult to overcome.
if only RU brought that same energy in the first half or coming out of the lockeroom
to me going 11 minute without Gavin/Oskar during that 0 point run from 6 minutes in the first half to 15 in the second was coaching malpractice..have to shake up the lineup with guys that can score...Pike decided not to do that in the first half
On TV he definitely said something directly to the MD player, with the ref standing right there.
Not a just random yell into the air.
It was an obvious call - based on how they have been calling Ts the last couple of games.
Not a good call but definitely consistent with how bad they have been calling Ts.
Not a just random yell into the air.
It was an obvious call - based on how they have been calling Ts the last couple of games.
Not a good call but definitely consistent with how bad they have been calling Ts.
It changes the way the crowd is booing/reacting. It deflates the team. I think this was the turning point of the game. Rutgers played crummy up to that run and play crummy after it, but that moment could have changed somethings.
This is why those free throws are so important. When you start a game 5-14 and miss three front ends you’re probably going to lose.
After Williams scored , he got into the face of Maryland player and trash talked.
This has Been going on forever but I guess the refs recently got a memo advising them to T up players when this occurs a la the Purdue game etc.
No it didnt...rutgers block 2 shots with a wild crowd..grabbed the board for what should have been an easy layup to cut it to 9 with crowd going wild and J Will blew the layup
That is your turning point of some miracle rally
It was the inflection point or the Jwill going behind the back on a 2 on 1.
A bigger issue was players, especially Jwill, complaining to refs when Reese and others celebrated after their good plays
I agree with you but I don’t think any Ts should have been called on either team.
Your comment doesn't seem right to me. Whether you get the right card in poker or blackjack is pretty much a matter of luck: your emotions don't affect it. But whether you score on the next possession also depends on your self-confidence and your sense of whether the game is still winnable. Fans may overestimate the importance of emotion in sports (if there weren't any, why would any of us root?), but I think it's a factor all the same.
I am in the minority but like getting celebrations aimed towards the opponent out of the game.
I dont think Austin directed his celebration at MD
I dont think Austin directed his celebration at MD
Today was one of the first days I can remember refs trying to ham hand eliminating emotion from the game. It was complete BS. And I do think it had an impact at an important point of the game. I’m generally someone who doesn’t ***** about refs, but the Ts today were ridiculous.
You’re missing my point; I’m not saying that cards and sports are the same. What I’m saying is that it will demonstrate your ability to feel momentum in a situation where you (should) know there is no such thing. Once you accept that, you can look more critically at your assumptions of momentum in sports.
It’s two short paragraphs. If you can get bored in that span you have bigger issues.Condescending and boring at the same time. Great job!
Completely agree !
Edict definitely coming down to the refs to haul in the trash talk which I think is unfortunate
Crossing the line is one thing which Williams did not do
It’s literally an eight sentence post. You’re an idiot.
1st time all season i was angry at officials.
If you are going to make that call you have to be certain the celebration was directed at MD. I am almost certain it wasnt