What can you do when your competition .....
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Rupp’s point shaving team? Rupp has nothing to do with it.
AD’s dad shopping him. Prove it. If that did happen, ncaa would’ve already punished UK.
Also for the record, we’ve had 3 players names brought up during the fbi/adidas trials. Bam, Vanderbilt and Hagans.
All that was said of Hagans and Vanderbilt were plans were in place to pitch to Hagans and to play travel expenses for games for Vanderbilt’s family. Neither ever happened because the people involved were busted before it could.
And it eventually was made public that adidas gave money to Peartree to try and use his relationship with bam to get him to commit to nc state There was no bidding war for bam. Bam picked Kentucky and the security of his future as a pro prospect and since Peartree wasn’t able to deliver Dawkins marked it as a bad loan.
Anyone at Kentucky getting directly involved in bidding wars for players makes no sense. First of all we’ve missed on nearly every top 5 prospect we’ve offered during the time this stuff has supposedly taken place. And its doubtful Cal is going to risk anything for second and third tier prospects like pj Washington, Quade Green, Nick Richards etc when he could have just ponied up the money for guys like Ayton, Little, Walker etc. Skal was the only one and supposedly his handler was indeed shopping him. But the NCAA investigated Skal pretty thoroughly(spent nearly an entire year between when he committed and when he was cleared) after Memphis ran to them and tried their best to submarine his eligibility.
You see, we know all this because Kentucky and Calipari have been so diligent in their own vetting and recruiting process they can afford to be transparent. It doesn’t matter what the media runs with because in the end the NCAA can investigate all they want and they’re not going to find anything because there’s nothing there. It’s to the point the media has given up on trying to uncover recruiting violations at Kentucky because they’ve gotten tired of wasting their time.
I know that’s hard for Duke, UNC and Kansas fans to understand because they can’t afford to be transparent. The NCAA doesn’t want to punish these programs but they at least need it to look good.
All that was said of Hagans and Vanderbilt were plans were in place to pitch to Hagans and to play travel expenses for games for Vanderbilt’s family. Neither ever happened because the people involved were busted before it could.
And it eventually was made public that adidas gave money to Peartree to try and use his relationship with bam to get him to commit to nc state There was no bidding war for bam. Bam picked Kentucky and the security of his future as a pro prospect and since Peartree wasn’t able to deliver Dawkins marked it as a bad loan.
Anyone at Kentucky getting directly involved in bidding wars for players makes no sense. First of all we’ve missed on nearly every top 5 prospect we’ve offered during the time this stuff has supposedly taken place. And its doubtful Cal is going to risk anything for second and third tier prospects like pj Washington, Quade Green, Nick Richards etc when he could have just ponied up the money for guys like Ayton, Little, Walker etc. Skal was the only one and supposedly his handler was indeed shopping him. But the NCAA investigated Skal pretty thoroughly(spent nearly an entire year between when he committed and when he was cleared) after Memphis ran to them and tried their best to submarine his eligibility.
You see, we know all this because Kentucky and Calipari have been so diligent in their own vetting and recruiting process they can afford to be transparent. It doesn’t matter what the media runs with because in the end the NCAA can investigate all they want and they’re not going to find anything because there’s nothing there. It’s to the point the media has given up on trying to uncover recruiting violations at Kentucky because they’ve gotten tired of wasting their time.
I know that’s hard for Duke, UNC and Kansas fans to understand because they can’t afford to be transparent. The NCAA doesn’t want to punish these programs but they at least need it to look good.
I love how many UK fans act like it's stupid to suggest that UK is the only blue blood not cheating:
#1 UK is the only blue blood that has not had something very incriminating come out in this FBI trial.
#2 The NCAA has shown favoritism to KU, UNC, and Duke in recent years.
#3 The same NCAA has shown to have a double standard for UK compared to the other 3 mentioned bluebloods in recent years. Enes Kanter and UK celebrating Cal's 500th win are both prime examples of that.
#4 UK seems to be the only blueblood program that backs off questionable recruits time and again.
It's not at all a stretch to believe that if there was any dirt on UK, the NCAA would quickly investigate based off their past actions. It doesn't make anyone who believes that a crazy conspiracy theorist or stupid to think that way.
If UK does get caught up in this investigation to be shown to have done wrongdoing or highly likely to have done something, I will change my opinion on how clean UK is. Until then I won't be grouping Kentucky in the same basket as UNC (the dirtiest program of all time), Duke, or Kansas.
#1 UK is the only blue blood that has not had something very incriminating come out in this FBI trial.
#2 The NCAA has shown favoritism to KU, UNC, and Duke in recent years.
#3 The same NCAA has shown to have a double standard for UK compared to the other 3 mentioned bluebloods in recent years. Enes Kanter and UK celebrating Cal's 500th win are both prime examples of that.
#4 UK seems to be the only blueblood program that backs off questionable recruits time and again.
It's not at all a stretch to believe that if there was any dirt on UK, the NCAA would quickly investigate based off their past actions. It doesn't make anyone who believes that a crazy conspiracy theorist or stupid to think that way.
If UK does get caught up in this investigation to be shown to have done wrongdoing or highly likely to have done something, I will change my opinion on how clean UK is. Until then I won't be grouping Kentucky in the same basket as UNC (the dirtiest program of all time), Duke, or Kansas.
I don't know that. You may, but I don't.
Your statement does not make a whole lot of sense.
Right. I don’t think Memphis started recruiting Bledsoe till Cal left. And if I remember correctly he was likely cincinatti bound had he not chosen Kentucky. But it’s been a while and it’s entirely possible I’m mis remembering.
I do remember Memphis reporters shoving cameras in Bledsoe’s face the instant he got off the plane when he went on his ov there. They asked him if he was enjoying the attention and he told them no. It was also a violation. Media aren’t allowed to interview prospects on a visit.
I was speaking of how he structured what he stated (It didn't make sense.) but I think you are also correct.
-Bledsoe was being recruited to Kentucky by Glenn Cyprien, who was probably paying the family's phone/light bill.
-Cyprien went to Memphis when Cal took over here and tried to take that Bledsoe relationship with him but Cal sealed the deal for us.
-In whatever capacity, Wes was our foot in the door for a lot of kids, and networked for us in recruiting. Whether he knew guys who were handing out cash and had them do so on behalf of him and therefore the university of Kentucky, we'll never know, but it's enough degrees of separation that it won't ever matter.
-Cal has made enough public comments lately about being able to sleep at night and that his hands are tied in certain recruiting aspects that I think you can read between the lines. Whatever was going on here and is going on elsewhere, apparently stopped at Kentucky.
I don't know if we got wind that folks were sniffing around, or the Wes relationship just soured, or if it became clear that some schools could funnel money without consequences and could play the game better or what, but he's basically told us that we have to walk away from any recruitment that goes in that direction.
I think when the Nike trial starts, you'll hear a lot of names associated with us brought up, just because it'll be the who's who of elite recruits that get looked at, but actually tying anything concrete to Kentucky, particularly anything that registers in the context of what's currently going on, doesn't worry me much.
I think from the get-go, some folks in administration have had some very clear structures in place to assuage some of the fears and reservations they likely had about Cal. We could go around those before, but I don't think that same network is there now and we're a bit more limited. I think that might all end up being a blessing in disguise soon.
-Cyprien went to Memphis when Cal took over here and tried to take that Bledsoe relationship with him but Cal sealed the deal for us.
-In whatever capacity, Wes was our foot in the door for a lot of kids, and networked for us in recruiting. Whether he knew guys who were handing out cash and had them do so on behalf of him and therefore the university of Kentucky, we'll never know, but it's enough degrees of separation that it won't ever matter.
-Cal has made enough public comments lately about being able to sleep at night and that his hands are tied in certain recruiting aspects that I think you can read between the lines. Whatever was going on here and is going on elsewhere, apparently stopped at Kentucky.
I don't know if we got wind that folks were sniffing around, or the Wes relationship just soured, or if it became clear that some schools could funnel money without consequences and could play the game better or what, but he's basically told us that we have to walk away from any recruitment that goes in that direction.
I think when the Nike trial starts, you'll hear a lot of names associated with us brought up, just because it'll be the who's who of elite recruits that get looked at, but actually tying anything concrete to Kentucky, particularly anything that registers in the context of what's currently going on, doesn't worry me much.
I think from the get-go, some folks in administration have had some very clear structures in place to assuage some of the fears and reservations they likely had about Cal. We could go around those before, but I don't think that same network is there now and we're a bit more limited. I think that might all end up being a blessing in disguise soon.
If it's doing the right thing, I will fight that fight every time.
None of the high major teams are totally clean in today's win at all cost mentality. NONE!!!!!!!
I was going to go with the Masons......but they were part of the Illuminati I think......I'll have to consult my little blue book......
You need to get that mouse out of your pocket.....what the hell is this we crap.........before I put you on my ignore list I want to tell you I think you are a F'king moron.....unless you have something you should STFU about "shady recruitments without getting caught".........You are a GD troll......
Without evidence, there are no facts. It's just like, you know, your opinion man.
That's for sure where he needs to be if he's looking for a legitimate conversation regarding dirty, paid-for players...
What seems ironic is Only 2 schools had any form of punishment and both were internal (Louisville and Arizona).
If we’re chea we’re doing it badly! If we weee cheating and it meant Duke was going to get punished as well YES!