We've been asking why would we fire Mullen this year...

[dawgstudent]

and my thought is we wouldn't and we shouldn't. He has done too many good things with our program and deserves the right to turn it around if this season ends up like we are expecting. But the other side is who would hire him this year. If State continues to struggle, no way LSU touches him.

One school that popped in my mind last night was Arizona. They are 2-4 with Rich Rod and Byrne is in control out there. I think that fanbase would be ok with Mullen having one bad year if Arizona went that route.

I am curious what a school would have to pay State if Mullen were to get hired.

 

[CookieMonster.sixpack]

I am curious what a school would have to pay State if Mullen were to get hired.

The ideal option is that Mullen rights the ship here and after a solid 2018 campaign, bolts for his preferred destination. The frustrating part is that it looks like he's not interested in doing that. I think Urban Meyer has influenced him. Urban bolted because Saban was kicking his tail. He can blame it on his health, but he seems to be doing fine now that he doesn't have to face Bama so often. You have to think Mullen and Meyer talk and I'm sure after 2014, Urban has encouraged him to look elsewhere. The problem is the money.

I think Arizona would be a good landing spot for him if he decides to leave. But can they pay him what we pay him? He's going to have to choose to swallow his pride either way. Either swallow his pride, fire the dead weight and get after it in recruiting or swallow his pride and take a pay cut for a lateral move.

 

[OzarkaNSW]

these are great questions and I will give you factual answers...

The answer to the question who is going to hire Mullen is Baylor. They are absolutely going to hire him and thats obviously for sure. They can dream and try and hire Tom Herman, and it's not going to happen. Baylor is basically a dream school for Mullen and that's because Big 12 schools don't play defense. Fun n gun baby lets go. Mullen will still not be able to recruit but he will dipping his little toes into a bigger recruiting pool and he will get athletes to play into his system. The only problem is, will he take Hevesy with him? Hevesy should still be able to recruit Sun Belt offensive lineman to Baylor, geographically that will be easy to do. So, mark it down Dan will be in Baylor next year.

Now, what's State going to do? We will obviously hire Cohen probably within the next two weeks. That big swinging stick he's got will be the new Sheriff in town. He'll have Lane Kiffin as head coach, Steve Sarkisian as O coordinator and obviously Orgeron will be our D coordinator. We will implement weekly alcohol tests for Sarks and Orgeron will beat the breaks off him if he starts slipping Grey Goose in his gatorade bottles again. Coach O doesn't drink, look it up. Recruits won't pick up we will pick recruits. Cohen will sway Lane and company to come before Alabama even plays in the playoff. This is the new normal fam get used to it.

These are facts.

 

[T-TownDawgg]

I can only speak for myself, but when I see that a coach's give a damn is broken, and you start seeing piss poor fundamentals, no recruiting fire, and diminished discipline like we are seeing, it brings back bad memories of JWS's last 3 years. 3 years. Then Croom to fix it? No thank you. Pay the 17er, move on now while the TSUN melt down is hot.

 

[DawgatAuburn]

No way the Arizona fanbase (assuming there is one) would be excited about Dan Mullen. Why would Byrne want to risk his popularity and job and future on a coach who is coming off a 3-9 season? It worked out for Jay Jacobs once upon a time, but there were 180,000 reasons why that happened.

As for what they could pay us, a home game in Starkville in Mullen's first year would work just fine. If not his first, then about his seventh year, when he's stopped caring at that school too.

 

[SwampDawg]

You also speak for me. Right on. He has lost his fire and I don't see him getting it back. He would be OK if he did, but he won't.

 

[the dog is on the loose]

Must be nice to get paid over 4 million a year to not give a crap.

 

[patdog]

We have to wait and see how the season turns out. No coach has ever "earned the right" to turn things around. We've been down that path with Sherrill, Polk, and to a lesser extent Stansbury. All that does is prolong the inevitable and make the situation worse. If we lose out or finish 3-9, there's certainly a good case for firing him. If we rally to finish 5-7 (doesn't seem likely at this point), then we shouldn't even consider firing him.

 

[dawgstudent]

Byrne did hire this coach...

2008	Michigan	3–9	2–6	T–9th
2009	Michigan	5–7	1–7	T–10th
2010	Michigan	7–6	3–5	T–7th	L Gator
Michigan:	15–22	6–18

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[T-TownDawgg]

Another thing we're not seeing is upperclassmen stepping up for leadership. In that case make it fun for the players and let them work that out. This isn't brain surgery folks.

P.S. I'm also sick to death of the post-bye weeks under DM. Speaks volumes about ****** practice/preparation/motivation. Can't remember the last off week this team had which lead up to a group of guys that looked like they couldn't wait to knock the **** out of opponents.

 

[Hoover Dawg]

Byrne did hire this coach...

2008	Michigan	3–9	2–6	T–9th
2009	Michigan	5–7	1–7	T–10th
2010	Michigan	7–6	3–5	T–7th	L Gator
Michigan:	15–22	6–18

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I think it's pretty obvious at this point that it was Rich Rod's team in 2011 that went 10-2 too, since Hoke promptly swirled them down the toilet. Michigan's issues back then were not Rich Rod's doing.

 

[thatsbaseball]

^^^This for me also^^^

 

[DawgatAuburn]

That idiot Byrne. Hiring a coach who went from 3 to 5 to 7 and from no bowl to the Gator Bowl in three years. No wonder Michigan dumped him. Then he went to Arizona and took a team who had won 19 games in the previous three years and won 26 in his first three. He's slid back a little in the last two years, but Rich Rod is still a good coach. So is Mullen. He's just for whatever reason not showing it right now.

 

[campshelbydog842003]

I have to disagree with the thought process that Mullen has "earned" the right to turn it around. He did a job and we paid him for it. He's not doing it anymore and if he stays it should be because we can't afford to let him go or we can't find him another job to gracefully take(if he doesn't turn it around this year obviously). If we have the money to buy him out and don't or if we can help him find another job and don't then we made a huge mistake because the problems on this team are effort and talent related, which is something that is hard to turn around with the same staff that let it get that way to begin with. Watching this team looks exactly like watching something from the Croom era. It's giving me PTSD.

 

[dawgstudent]

But you used the point of a fanbase not being excited about Mullen as a hire. I disagree and used Rich Rod as the example of obviously an athletic department thinking it was a good hire.