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This sort of changes the narrative for the TDS crowd, doesn't it?

He wasn't lying after all
Please show us a photo of the cuts? Every photo I have seen is 100% peeling. Trump has control of the parks and rec. Lying for a liar is par for the course?

In other parks news, Trump is prohibiting the parks and rec to confirm deaths in national parks. Transparency won't be tolerated
 

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Please show us a photo of the cuts? Every photo I have seen is 100% peeling. Trump has control of the parks and rec. Lying for a liar is par for the course?

In other parks news, Trump is prohibiting the parks and rec to confirm deaths in national parks. Transparency won't be tolerated
A conspiracy?
 

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Please show us a photo of the cuts? Every photo I have seen is 100% peeling. Trump has control of the parks and rec. Lying for a liar is par for the course?

In other parks news, Trump is prohibiting the parks and rec to confirm deaths in national parks. Transparency won't be tolerated
"The View" told you that it was not cut, SO NO WAY WAS IT CUT!!
 

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Please show us a photo of the cuts? Every photo I have seen is 100% peeling. Trump has control of the parks and rec. Lying for a liar is par for the course?

In other parks news, Trump is prohibiting the parks and rec to confirm deaths in national parks. Transparency won't be tolerated

Vienna, in the other thread you celebrated this report as upposedly proving Trump a liar.

Now, to no one's surprise, new documents obtained by The New York Times confirm that the White House' claims of vandalism causing the Reflecting Pool's sealant to peel up and water to turn green are what we all knew them to be: ********.

The documents, which came from the National Parks Service, show that virtually immediately after the pool was refilled following the installation of Trump's "American Flag Blue" epoxy lining, issues began to arise.

Then, once they were quoted, and were shown to corroborate his "cut" claims, you decided they were false and made up.

Do you see how that kind of flip flopping on the source material just because you dont like results comes across?
 

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Please show us a photo of the cuts? Every photo I have seen is 100% peeling. Trump has control of the parks and rec. Lying for a liar is par for the course?

In other parks news, Trump is prohibiting the parks and rec to confirm deaths in national parks. Transparency won't be tolerated
LOL; this isn't Fox reporting, this is NPR. No one on Earth (well, except maybe you) hates Trump more than NPR. NPR is headquartered in DC. If they wanted to expose lying by the National Park Service under Trump's orders over whether there were cuts, or if it was peeling, they have a whole staff of reporters within walking distance of the reflecting pool. There would have been an in depth investigation and expose' on this "cover up" if it wasn't true.
 

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"The View" told you that it was not cut, SO NO WAY WAS IT CUT!!
Zero evidence of it being cut. Why won't Trump or the parks post photos of the cuts? We all know why. Another one of Trumps lie and his sheep are falling in line.

Donny said a few weeks back that you couldn't cut this with a knife yet someone cut 250 feet. No, I mean 300 feet. Wait, 350 feet. Diahria of the mouth.

We obliterated Iran's nuclear capability yet we are going to start a war to stop their nuclear capability? The guy is not capable of telling the truth.
 

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Zero evidence of it being cut. Why won't Trump or the parks post photos of the cuts? We all know why. Another one of Trumps lie and his sheep are falling in line.

Donny said a few weeks back that you couldn't cut this with a knife yet someone cut 250 feet. No, I mean 300 feet. Wait, 350 feet. Diahria of the mouth.

We obliterated Iran's nuclear capability yet we are going to start a war to stop their nuclear capability? The guy is not capable of telling the truth.

Zero evidence except the report you were so fond of at first.

Kind of telling that suddenly you cant be bothered to remember that.
 

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Listen TDS posters, Be patient, he will finally retire in around 2032... SO just grin and Bear it!! The only issue is, you are gonna get quite a few years of that bad *** Rubio!!
 

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This sort of changes the narrative for the TDS crowd, doesn't it?

He wasn't lying after all

Forgot about the 4 stages of news.

1. It didn't happen. Add some name calling.
2. It did happen, but it wasn't that big of a deal. Add some more name calling.
3. It happend, but its actually a good thing. More name calling.
4. It happened and you're racist if you don't like it.
 

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Forgot about the 4 stages of news.

1. It didn't happen. Add some name calling.
2. It did happen, but it wasn't that big of a deal. Add some more name calling.
3. It happend, but its actually a good thing. More name calling.
4. It happened and you're racist if you don't like it.
The media and Trump:

1. Trump is lying.
2. Trump is completely incorrect.
3. Trump is exaggerating, it wasn't anything like what he says.
4. Start cycle over again with new "Trump outrage" story when Trump is proven correct.

TDS crowd:**

TRUMP IS RACIST!!!
TRUMP IS STUPID!!!
TRUMP IS SENILE!!!
TRUMP IS IN POOR HEALTH!!!
TRUMP IS LYING!!!
TRUMP IS EVIL!!!

**Whenever Trump is proven right or corrects a problem or does something good, this mantra starts over.
 

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Right Vienna. And you support a party that doesn`t know what a woman means, what "temporary" means, even what "in" means. One day we may all be under Communist control because of idiots who are ignorant and don`t know history, believe the lying mainstream media and cat box liners like the New York Times and the Washington Post.
 
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Right Vienna. And you support a party that doesn`t know what a woman means, what "temporary" means, even what "in" means. One day we may all be under Communist control because of idiots who are ignorant and don`t know history, believe the lying mainstream media and cat box liners like the New York Times and the Washington Post.
I am not a democrat and have never voted Democrat. Another swing and a miss. I stated many times that I agree with most of Trump's policies and am a conservative by nature. That said, his implementation and communication of his policies is trash and I despise a habitual liar. If they get the right candidate in the next election, i'll vote republican.

Many conservatives feel the way I do. I can't and won't support Trump. I hope and pray the democrats win the mid-terms as Trump is out of control.

I didn't vote last election because I thought both candidates were equally bad. I'll be the first to admit, I was wrong.
 
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I am not a democrat and have never voted Democrat. Another swing and a miss. I stated many times that I agree with most of Trump's policies and am a conservative by nature. That said, his implementation and communication of his policies is trash and I despise a habitual liar. If they get the right candidate in the next election, i'll vote republican.

Many conservatives feel the way I do. I can't and won't support Trump. I hope and pray the democrats win the mid-terms as Trump is out of control.

I didn't vote last election because I thought both candidates were equally bad. I'll be the first to admit, I was wrong.
Yeah right!!
 

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I also agree with many if not most of Trump’s policies while at the same time finding him to be a vile,repugnant human being.It is quite likely we will discover he and family increased their wealth an incredible amount while in office.If he didn’t he would be the exception.
That being said I believe in 20,30,40 years we will come to the realization that by closing the border Trump saved our country.For those paying attention to what is going on in the UK,Sweden,Germany and other liberal European countries,they are in a hell of a mess caused by unchecked immigration of people who have no interest in assimilating in their new country.It’s even caused a new descriptive term to be used.SUICIDAL EMPATHY.
 

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Yeah right!!
Believe what you want cowboy!

A bit odd that you believe all Trump haters are democrats. Plenty of independents and republicans very much dislike Trump. MTG and others hate Trump yet they are not democrats.

If you go back through my post, I don't think you'll find that I side with the democrats. I'm simply anti-Trump.
 
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Trump is "out of control???" Trying to re-establish sanity to the country? Falsely accused for years of being a Nazi, Fascist, etc., with no basis at all, while the Dems actually support a Nazi, Fascist, woman abuser, racist, Porta-Potty turn on despicable POS in Maine for the Senate? Amusing that they accused Trump for years of trying to destroy the "democracy" while they openly advocate socialism, even Communism. The Dems and the mainstream media constantly lie. The last administration lied all the time and the mainstream media rarely, if ever, called them out. The Dems don`t even want voter ID, citizenship to vote - they lie that it`s too hard for black people to get an ID(yeah right), too hard for women to get a proper ID(another yeah right), all so they can pave the way to continue having illegals vote in our elections, have ballots with fake and/or dead voters vote in the fall. It would be funny if it wasn`t so consequential. Trump lies? How about Schumer, Jeffries, Warren, Bernie, Newsom, Schiff, Bass, Hochul, Spanberger... pretty much any elected Democratic official. Give me Trump, Vance, Rubio, Patel, Homan, any day. Not to mention the activist Democratic judges that are the ones trying to undermine the rule of law. The Supreme Court is the only thing saving the country right now. Instead of accepting the results the Dems pout when a ruling doesn`t go their way and want to blow up the system. They are the ones that have no respect for our Constitution and our way of life that they want to destroy. It`s amazing to see the videos of all of the foreigners attending the World Cup who are praising our country and saying how much they were misled about America by the mainstream media. Yet many of our citizens are so poisoned by the left they can`t see reality. Of course now it starts in our schools with all of the indoctrination of our young people. It may be too late, it will be if the Dems have it their way.
 

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To such a degree thats almost cartoonish, and makes me wonder if youre just yanking people's chains.
I'm not. For the life of me, I don't know how anyone can tolerate his dishonesty. Willing to overlook because of policies or do you really believe everything that comes out of his mouth? I'm thinking it's the ladder.

All of my wife's family are hard republicans. 75%+ on my side are the same. I stay away from politics when i'm with them but they really feel Trump doesn't lie. For example.

He said he was never on Epstien's plane. Flight logs have proved otherwise. Family claims fake news. Facts have no relevance.

He campaigned on bringing down prices on day 1. Hasn't happened. Trump says he didn't promise he would bring down prices. Family agrees it was just campaign speak.

I really don't get it. Enlighten me?
 

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I'm not. For the life of me, I don't know how anyone can tolerate his dishonesty. Willing to overlook because of policies or do you really believe everything that comes out of his mouth? I'm thinking it's the ladder.

All of my wife's family are hard republicans. 75%+ on my side are the same. I stay away from politics when i'm with them but they really feel Trump doesn't lie. For example.

He said he was never on Epstien's plane. Flight logs have proved otherwise. Family claims fake news. Facts have no relevance.

He campaigned on bringing down prices on day 1. Hasn't happened. Trump says he didn't promise he would bring down prices. Family agrees it was just campaign speak.

I really don't get it. Enlighten me?

Kind of proving my point here. (And its latter)

I'll maybe change my mind when you go scorched earth on any other politician who lies continually, which is all of them. Or maybe not change your story from post to post when your own citations prove you wrong.

Until then, youre just trolling. I get that. Have fun.
 

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Kind of proving my point here. (And its latter)

I'll maybe change my mind when you go scorched earth on any other politician who lies continually, which is all of them. Or maybe not change your story from post to post when your own citations prove you wrong.

Until then, youre just trolling. I get that. Have fun.
And you have no morals. I get it also. Keep following your shepherd.
 
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I am not a democrat and have never voted Democrat. Another swing and a miss. I stated many times that I agree with most of Trump's policies and am a conservative by nature. That said, his implementation and communication of his policies is trash and I despise a habitual liar. If they get the right candidate in the next election, i'll vote republican.

Many conservatives feel the way I do. I can't and won't support Trump. I hope and pray the democrats win the mid-terms as Trump is out of control.

I didn't vote last election because I thought both candidates were equally bad. I'll be the first to admit, I was wrong.

Sure Jan.
 

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Zero evidence of it being cut. Why won't Trump or the parks post photos of the cuts? We all know why. Another one of Trumps lie and his sheep are falling in line.

Donny said a few weeks back that you couldn't cut this with a knife yet someone cut 250 feet. No, I mean 300 feet. Wait, 350 feet. Diahria of the mouth.

We obliterated Iran's nuclear capability yet we are going to start a war to stop their nuclear capability? The guy is not capable of telling the truth.
MAWA comment
 

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LOL; this isn't Fox reporting, this is NPR. No one on Earth (well, except maybe you) hates Trump more than NPR. NPR is headquartered in DC. If they wanted to expose lying by the National Park Service under Trump's orders over whether there were cuts, or if it was peeling, they have a whole staff of reporters within walking distance of the reflecting pool. There would have been an in depth investigation and expose' on this "cover up" if it wasn't true.
the lining failed due to poor application by a company inexperienced in such a project and then rushed to get it completed. Furthermore, it's poor design/concept in the first place built over a swamp. Trump just does not have it in him to say as such, he would rather start conspiracy and chaos.
 
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I also agree with many if not most of Trump’s policies while at the same time finding him to be a vile,repugnant human being.It is quite likely we will discover he and family increased their wealth an incredible amount while in office.If he didn’t he would be the exception.
That being said I believe in 20,30,40 years we will come to the realization that by closing the border Trump saved our country.For those paying attention to what is going on in the UK,Sweden,Germany and other liberal European countries,they are in a hell of a mess caused by unchecked immigration of people who have no interest in assimilating in their new country.It’s even caused a new descriptive term to be used.SUICIDAL EMPATHY.
I have fond memories of the Reagan/Busch years and then Busch when he became president in 1988. Regardless of policy, they were gracious and dignified, cared for our country and those who lived here. I believe the Obamas were as well. But what we have now disgusts me, Trump and is family are disgraceful humans, only out for themselves. Then to see what they have done to the Whitehouse, looks as Liberace decorated the place and to just tear down a third of it to build some tacky ridiculous temple to himself. And you are correct, Trump family members attended high level meetings, one took place last week and Rubio flat out lied about that when asked why wasTrump's other son in law in attendence, it just stinks.
 
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I have fond memories of the Reagan/Busch years and then Busch when he became president in 1988. Regardless of policy, they were gracious and dignified, cared for our country and those who lived here. I believe the Obamas were as well. But what we have now disgusts me, Trump and is family are disgraceful humans, only out for themselves. Then to see what they have done to the Whitehouse, looks as Liberace decorated the place and to just tear down a third of it to build some tacky ridiculous temple to himself. And you are correct, Trump family members attended high level meetings, one took place last week and Rubio flat out lied about that when asked why wasTrump's other son in law in attendence, it just stinks.

Oh good grief man. That’s a miserable way to live. The magas aren’t the ‘cult’ group, it’s you people that are so irrationally butt hurt.

The obamas huh; mmm-k.
 

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This sort of changes the narrative for the TDS crowd, doesn't it?

He wasn't lying after all
I hate to point out the obvious but an agency of the government confirming what their boss says, without provding any actual evidence, isn't worth very much.

Would you have accepted a government agency confirming something Joe Biden had said, or Obama had said without providing any evidence for it? I wouldn't. I would assume you clearly wouldn't either.

I think the pattern is pretty clear that Trump doesn't tolerate his agency heads contradicting him on anything. I think we've all seen video of his cabinet meetings where he goes around the room and his agency heads take their 5 mins to tell Trump how he's the best and smartest human in history while they say they totally agree with everything he says and does. That's pretty revealing. I don't know about you, but I don't agree wtih any human being on everything, not even my wife or my adult children. I certainly don't tell them they are never wrong and are always right.

It's like the Clemson athletic department coming out and saying Dabo was right after all. Ok, if so, show us the evidence and let us make up our own minds. I trust the American public can decide if we are shown the evidence of something making this huge cut.
 
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Oh good grief man. That’s a miserable way to live. The magas aren’t the ‘cult’ group, it’s you people that are so irrationally butt hurt.

The obamas huh; mmm-k.
I don't know. Trump did say once in front of microphones that he could shoot someone on the street, and he wouldn't lose any supporters.

if a politician- any politician- feels that way, that can cause that person to believe there are no repercussions for anything they do.

Imagine a bank manager telling a bank employee that there is nothing they could ever do that would get them fired...
 

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I think the pattern is pretty clear that Trump doesn't tolerate his agency heads contradicting him on anything. I think we've all seen video of his cabinet meetings where he goes around the room and his agency heads take their 5 mins to tell Trump how he's the best and smartest human in history while they say they totally agree with everything he says and does. That's pretty revealing.

Agency heads " circling the wagons" is hardly anything new, is it? I remember a bunch of people in the same position extolling the mental acuity of a guy with severely declining mental faculties.

That being said, we know for a fact the field next to the pond was vandalized right about the same time with a lot of chemicals. Maybe wanting more proof is good, but the notion of vandalism is not exactly out of left field considering that.
 
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I don't know. Trump did say once in front of microphones that he could shoot someone on the street, and he wouldn't lose any supporters.

if a politician- any politician- feels that way, that can cause that person to believe there are no repercussions for anything they do.

Imagine a bank manager telling a bank employee that there is nothing they could ever do that would get them fired...

Is that notion really unique to Trump?

Won't a very large portion of voters vote for absolute scum because there's an R or D in front of their name?
 

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I don't know. Trump did say once in front of microphones that he could shoot someone on the street, and he wouldn't lose any supporters.

if a politician- any politician- feels that way, that can cause that person to believe there are no repercussions for anything they do.

Imagine a bank manager telling a bank employee that there is nothing they could ever do that would get them fired...
This is exactly the cult culture I refer to. You make up your mind and subsequently grasp and cling to any quote or snippet you can get your hands on to further your own hate (drinking bleach etc). Trump is not a politician, nor is he Mr. Roger’s; he is the leader of the most powerful country in the world. If reporters ask him stupid questions they will get stupid answers because he doesn’t give a ___; he has important things to worry about.
 

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Frankly, I have not been keeping up with the pool situation. I said from the get go, I would not be shocked if it was vandalism. But at the same time, I would not be shocked if it was incompetence by the guy whose company was awarded a "no bid" contract (Cafaro). I would love to see evidence if it was vandalism.

My wife is on her way back right now from DC. She and a bunch of her DAR friends were attending the DAR Continental Congress since this past Monday. I hope to pick her up at 6 or 7 pm. She called me earlier in the week saying one of her friends, a Mississippi State graduate and huge Trump supporter. wanted to visit the pool. I told my wife that if she visits that pool, to not so much as breathe towards it or she might get handcuffed. I told her I have my hands full dog sitting a beagle and a maltipoo. I don't want to have to bail her out. :LOL:

As a side comment, that Mississippi State grad and her husband are good people. I was talking with him a couple of months ago. I told him that I hope the Miss. State football team takes it easy on us when they visit Columbia in the Fall. He said that would be 2 horrible football programs playing to see who will embarrass themselves the most. I thought to myself (but didn't say it) that there is no way that we are as bad as Mississippi State. If we don't beat them, it will be a dark day in Carolina football history.

Does anyone know how long it will take to repair the pool? Is Cafaro's guys doing the repair?
 
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Frankly, I have not been keeping up with the pool situation. I said from the get go, I would not be shocked if it was vandalism. But at the same time, I would not be shocked if it was incompetence by the guy whose company was awarded a "no bid" contract (Cafaro). I would love to see evidence if it was vandalism.

My wife is on her way back right now from DC. She and a bunch of her DAR friends were attending the DAR Continental Congress since this past Monday. I hope to pick her up at 6 or 7 pm. She called me earlier in the week saying one of her friends, a Mississippi State graduate and huge Trump supporter. wanted to visit the pool. I told my wife that if she visits that pool, to not so much as breathe towards it or she might get handcuffed. I told her I have my hands full dog sitting a beagle and a maltipoo. I don't want to have to bail her out. :LOL:

As a side comment, that Mississippi State grad and her husband are good people. I was talking with him a couple of months ago. I told him that I hope the Miss. State football team takes it easy on us when they visit Columbia in the Fall. He said that would be 2 horrible football programs playing to see who will embarrass themselves the most. I thought to myself (but didn't say it) that there is no way that we are as bad as Mississippi State. If we don't beat them, it will be a dark day in Carolina football history.

Does anyone know how long it will take to repair the pool? Is Cafaro's guys doing the repair?

The most likely scenario,imo, is that it was a rushed job, with all the complications/failures that come with that. THEN it became a thing to start vandalizing it.
 

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Please show us a photo of the cuts? Every photo I have seen is 100% peeling. Trump has control of the parks and rec. Lying for a liar is par for the course?

In other parks news, Trump is prohibiting the parks and rec to confirm deaths in national parks. Transparency won't be tolerated

Yeah, I am not sure why the Trump administration has made this into an issue. It seems ham-handed.

I've been to the reflecting pool at least 7-8 times, in winter and summer, the water was always a bit green or dark colored and it never crossed my mind- never heard it mentioned by anyone, never mentioned by a tour guide, it was never an issue to anyone. It certainly wasn't an issue 2-3 years ago. No one cared.

All that said, I do wish they'd simply show the photos of someone cutting it or show who they think cut it. Posting photos of tourists reaching into the water, touching the water, or simply standing near the water isn't going to convince any fairminded person of anything other than they must not have any evidence yet.